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[Unichrone]

Um... not that it matters, because I got this card for Skyrim and Witcher 2, but... isn't it a little weird that an EVGA GTX580, a super clocked one, can't cap this game out?  Am I doing something wrong?  Drivers are updated and everything...

[mcsupersport]

I am running a HD6950 and it runs maxed graphics except only 4x AA and it runs 25-55fps, while Crysis2 maxed at ultra on 2x AA and it pulls 10-30fps. I guess you don't realize how much power detail and high fps really requires. Plus the game probably isn't really DX11 optimized since it hasn't been around that long with good enough cards to really play around and tweak it.

[Unichrone]

Crysis runs better on my rig than DAII.

I don't understand why you came in here swinging-- I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong.

[Jason_53]

What´s your driver version?
You really have a brutal video card :-)
I have an MSI GTX 560ti 1 GB DDR5 OC version and with tne new 280.26 drivers the game runs smoothly at 45-50 fps with all the settings maxed out in windows 7 X64 with Directx 11 and a native resolution of 1440x900@75hz .
Your card is far better than mine so I don´t see any reason for it not to handle it.

[termokanden]

Unichrone wrote...

Crysis runs better on my rig than DAII.

I don't understand why you came in here swinging-- I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong.

Weird. I have a 590. Everything runs fine at max everything, including TW2 and DA2. Crysis 2 however does get below 30 and is occasionally even choppy. But that is with everything maxed and with the highres textures and the DX11 optional patch. I suspect the DX11 stuff is the culprit.

I have another computer with a 460. Runs most games just fine. Supports DX11. But dare to turn on DX11 and DA2 goes from smooth to completely unplayable. I had the same experience with Call of Pripyat. Runs fine on a 460. Turn on DX 11 and it gets extremely choppy.

It has been my impression so far that DX11 performance is generally awful, and the quality you get out of turning it on is minimal. So I'm not exactly a big fan.

PS: It's my personal opinion that > 30 FPS means the game runs fine. Best just to forget about the numbers and enjoy the game at that point.

Modifié par termokanden, 21 août 2011 - 10:33 .

[mcsupersport]

I am sorry you thought I came in swinging. Crysis2 with the Ultra graphics, all dx11 downloads, runs at a low of ten fps if I drop back to extreme graphics it has a low of 30. The sad thing is I really can't tell a quality difference between them, so the fps loss is a shame. On my rig in dx11 max graphics , moving the two DA2 graphic sliders past 2x means sub 25fps, with no noticeable change. So far my opinion on dx11 is, it is a great idea, but not well done yet. To really get max graphics and great fps you are going to have to have multiple cards that are beasts. I just think the technology is to new and is not well known by devs to work extremely well.

[termokanden]

I'm trying to imagine the nightmare of getting two multi-GPU cards sufficiently aircooled. I'm not actually sure it can even be done

[PSUHammer]

Unichrone wrote...

Um... not that it matters, because I got this card for Skyrim and Witcher 2, but... isn't it a little weird that an EVGA GTX580, a super clocked one, can't cap this game out?  Am I doing something wrong?  Drivers are updated and everything...

My 570 runs the game at 1980x1200 with DX11 and all options maxed at an average of 35-40fps.  It hovers at 45 in some areas.  During heavy spell battle, It CAN dip in the upper 20's.

I am running the 280 beta driver.  Remember...this isn't an FPS and a frame rate over 30 is perfectly acceptable for a game like this.

Modifié par Hammer6767, 22 août 2011 - 07:22 .

[Moondoggie]

I'd be suprised if there is any card out there that can run DA II maxed in DX11 at high resolututions and get 60fps + consistantly as other people have said it's most likely going to be a 30-40fps average for this game. I havn't tested the game on any Nvidia cards but the top end Radeons are getting the 30-40 average with lower dips to 25fps in places maxed out. They put in an awful lot of effects and stuff that give the card a good workout so running it maxed out in DX11 is going to challange your card way more than an older game like Crysis.

Modifié par Moondoggie, 22 août 2011 - 08:30 .

[StupidQQ]

My spec:
i7 950 - 3.07GHz
12GB DDR3-1333 RAM
2 x Gigabyte GTX580 running in SLI

nVidia Driver: 280.26
Windows 7 64Bit

Settings:
Resolution: 1920x1080
Graphics Details: Very High
AA: 8x
AF: 16x
High Resolution Textures: Enable
Renderer: DirectX 11
Screen space ambient occlusion: Enable
Diffusion depth of field: Enable
High-quality blur: Enable
DA2 Version: 1.03

The game runs perfect, no lag at all...

Maybe there is some settings you set wrong?
or maybe because you only have one card?

[Thandal N'Lyman]

DA2 (and DA:O) can impose significant overhead on all aspects of your rig, including (or maybe, especially) the video sub-system. The Devs have said repeatedly that if you're getting at or above 30-FPS, there's nothing more to do. Optimizing the code to up the max. framerate just isn't on their to-do list at all.

[Complistic]

The game is very poorly optimized for DX11.

[jbrand2002uk]

termokanden wrote...

I'm trying to imagine the nightmare of getting two multi-GPU cards sufficiently aircooled. I'm not actually sure it can even be done

the soloution i 'did about 8yrs ago would work- liquid nitogen cooled very tricky to build though that was the first domestic liquid nitrogen PC in the uk at the time failing that a large case with four 12cm fans and a wwater cooling kit should suffice:wizard:

[Withidread]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

termokanden wrote...

I'm trying to imagine the nightmare of getting two multi-GPU cards sufficiently aircooled. I'm not actually sure it can even be done

the soloution i 'did about 8yrs ago would work- liquid nitogen cooled very tricky to build though that was the first domestic liquid nitrogen PC in the uk at the time failing that a large case with four 12cm fans and a wwater cooling kit should suffice:wizard:

That's not aircooled.


Did the OP's issue ever get resolved? This definitely sounds driver related.

[Thandal N'Lyman]

There isn't really "an issue" to address. DAO/DA2 isn't optimized for high frame rate. Devs have said repeatedly they aren't concerned about it and aren't going to try do anything specific to improve it. Some GPU/driver combinations seem to do better than others (depending on a host of other factors, including exactly what kind of scene is being presented, and how long that particular game session has been running) but anything above 30 fps is "good enough" by BioWare's standards.

[termokanden]

The issue I have with my laptop isn't about only getting 30 FPS. It's about dropping from completely smooth to absolutely unplayable by simply enabling DX11. It's ridiculous, particularly considering how little you will notice the effects of having DX11 enabled.

And again I think you just shouldn't expect much in terms of performance when DX11 is enabled, not even with top-end hardware. I don't consider it an issue with our hardware at all but rather with DX11 performance.

Modifié par termokanden, 03 septembre 2011 - 05:58 .

[jbrand2002uk]

i use AMD Athlon II X4 630 processor with 4GB DDR3 ram and Windows 7 and a 1GB ATI Radeon HD4800 though its only a DX10 card the game does run in DX11 mode with the high res pack with no problems apart from the occasional slowdown in some cutscene's

[mcsupersport]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

i use AMD Athlon II X4 630 processor with 4GB DDR3 ram and Windows 7 and a 1GB ATI Radeon HD4800 though its only a DX10 card the game does run in DX11 mode with the high res pack with no problems apart from the occasional slowdown in some cutscene's

DX10 cards don't use the full DX11 package, and yeah, it makes a difference.

To my card the sliders(AA and the one I can never remember the name of) make the biggest difference in FPS, going from 45+ to sub 20s the farther they go up.

At this time, I don't see enough change to make the loss of fps worth it.

[jbrand2002uk]

True though i'm quite happy with the look of the game running it the way i do

[mcsupersport]

^ That was kinda my point for the last statement, the difference between the almost full package and the full package is slight to most people's eyes, and doesn't in my opinion warrant the loss of FPS to get that little change. I really don't see anything that major in change to make the loss worth the looks, unlike some changes it isn't dramatic or even all that impressive to lose 20+ fps.