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[Flashflame58]

Luc0s wrote...

The the f- does everyone put the asari so high on their list? They're friggin' useless against the reapers!

Oh, epic biotics? Big deal! I take massive firepower over biotics anytime any day of the week!

That's the great thing about opinions; not everyone has to agree! 

[Flashflame58]

Luc0s wrote...

Flashflame58 wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

The the f- does everyone put the asari so high on their list? They're friggin' useless against the reapers!

Oh, epic biotics? Big deal! I take massive firepower over biotics anytime any day of the week!

That's the great thing about opinions; not everyone has to agree! 

Opinions aren't going to help you win the war against the reapers.

Biotics aren't going to win the war against the reapers either. What we need is a genius plan or some new tech that can help us exploiding a weakness in the reapers. That's why saving the salarians should have the highest priority (next to saving the humans of course).

It's not opinion, it's just logic and common-sense.

Cool. That's you're opinion.

[darkangelvxvx]

[*]Humans-  We killed the first, and second reaper, are the youngest in the galactic community, and fighting to put ourselves on top.
[*]Quarian- Dangerous, but also brilliant.  The largest fleet in the galaxy is in Quarian Hands.  A valuable asset.  Also, incredibly tech savy... Tech vs Bio-robots?  hmm..[*]Turian- Cold-hearted, and steely resolve.  Willing to damn an entire race to near-sterility to end a war.  Better them than us right?[*]Asari- Ageless and superior, but squeal like school girls when you get them.
[*]Salarians-  Good intentions lead to bad problems.  Very capable of dealing with a problem, but dangerous when they think their ideals are just.    Probably could kill off a generation or two and see little change... what is that like a week for them?[*]Rachni- Powerful ally, Queen stated herself that she would fight those who soured their songs; likely wont need help, but would still fight for them.
[*]Krogan- Powerful in a fight, might come in handy, Blunt instrument used once before, likely willing to be again, See them as victims though.[*]Geth-Still compiling consensus..[*]Drell- how useful is a species that owes their existance to the Hanar?[*]Hanar- unless Blasto is real I dont see much of a use for these stubborn Jellies Ramblings about the "inkindlers"[*]Volus - But, Great wind, Biotic god!  Comic relief alone is enough to make these guys more valuable than elcore
[*]Elcor-  the 14 hour production of Hamlet is enough to make anyone want to feed these guys to the reapers.[*]Batarians - they killed my family, and friends.  Dropped an asteroid on a human colony, yea... I'm a little pissed off.[*]Vorcha  For some reason I dont think saving the Vorcha from the Reapers is going to be all that much of a problem... they'll likely be back up to their full strength in a few days anyway.

Modifié par darkangelvxvx, 21 août 2011 - 01:18 .

[Aristorum]

Humans > everything else. Shep's gotta look out for his own kind.

[Last Vizard]

Humanity doesn't "need" the other races to survive in post Reaper war galaxy

Turians - Japanese samurai honour system.

Asari - strippers turned mums that give advice to daughters because they've already made every mistake in life.

Salarians - all are not scientists and their information system is hardly a species trait.

Krogans - Viking/Scottish culture of war and domination, will overpopulate galaxy if cured of genophage.

Quarians - nothing to do all day but fix your ship/home.... of course most of them will be good mechanics/egineers.

Volus - no natural predators on home world.... other species are not incapable of managing galactic economy.

Drell - useless race that work as arms and legs for another useless race.

Geth - may one day enslave/destroy all other species.

Rachni - one day over populate and overrun citedal space species.

Hanar - useless.

Elcor - zero predators on Elcor home world during evolution of anything.... most useless species.

Batarians - government promotes slavery of other species (mostly Humans) and therefore needs to be exterminated to pay for the suffering they have brought apon Human colonists.

Vorcha - barely sentient vermin species, should be confined to homeworld.

Yahg -  Nuke the site from orbit, its the only way to be sure.

We don't "need" aliens post war however only the Batarians deserve extermination, Turian, Asari and Salarian populations are spread across many worlds in large numbers.... their species is in little danger compared to the danger Humanity faces and i'll be damned to hell before I let my species extinct.

PS. Krogans and quarians need to be taken care of too due to small populations.

[spurkis]

Priorities, decreasing in importance - making turians most important, and yahg not important.
Turian
Salarian
Volus
Geth
Asari
Human
Elcor
Hanar
Drell
Krogan
Batarian
Vorcha
Quarian
Yahg

Modifié par spurkis, 21 août 2011 - 01:32 .

[Gruntyfy]

Awsome comments! keep them coming.

[Bcuz]

Save species? I find it unlikely that any entire space-faring species will completely parish if the Reapers are indeed defeated.

That said:

1. Humans - The only species the Reapers deamed worthy of "ascending" to Reaper status. A Reaper prevented is a Reaper slain.

2. Salarians - Likely the only species truly smart enough to put the galactic community back together after all the chaos.

3. Turians - Marshal prowess and peacekeeping will likely be necessary in keeping peace post-apocalypse.

4. Quarians - Someone has to put the extranet back up.

5. Volus - Economics could easily be run by other species, but they've been at it for centuries.

6. Asari - If only because they are a galactic superpower. How they behaved/portrayed in ME1 and more or less in ME2 is just insulting.


7. Drell - Any species that can successfully neck-snap an adult prepubescence is awesome enough to have some priority.

8. Hanar - Peaceful, though not very useful.

9.Geth - While they have proven to be benign recently, they wouldn't contribute much to the galactic community as a whole.

10. Batarians - While they appose humanity, they can at least be reasoned with.

11. Krogan - Dangerous, unstable, and only one exception I have seen so far in this trend.

12. Rachni - They are a force to be reckoned with, though their questionable history and inability to communicate by traditional means would make them difficult to find purpose in saving.

13. Vorcha - No explanation needed.

Modifié par Bcuz, 21 août 2011 - 01:52 .

[spurkis]

Luc0s wrote...

Flashflame58 wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Flashflame58 wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

The the f- does everyone put the asari so high on their list? They're friggin' useless against the reapers!

Oh, epic biotics? Big deal! I take massive firepower over biotics anytime any day of the week!

That's the great thing about opinions; not everyone has to agree! 

Opinions aren't going to help you win the war against the reapers.

Biotics aren't going to win the war against the reapers either. What we need is a genius plan or some new tech that can help us exploiding a weakness in the reapers. That's why saving the salarians should have the highest priority (next to saving the humans of course).

It's not opinion, it's just logic and common-sense.

Cool. That's you're opinion.

If you were a general in war we'd be all doomed. If you honestly think war-tactics are based on opinions that is.

The Asari have atleast one ship that is superior to essentially ever other ship in the Citadel fleets, both offensively and defensively. That says something about their vessel technology. Friggin useless against the Reapers? Wut. 

[bobdooly]

 Save quarians over geth, but keep a hub alive and remake the geth in days (they are computer programs, their only limit is memory space)

[Yakko77]

If I had to choose two of the "Big 4" on the Council (humans, salarians, turians and asari) I'd sacrifice the salarians and the turians. My reasons being, 1) I protect my species, humanity. And 2) The Asari can mate with anyone thus helping repopulate a likely decimated galaxy following the war. I have nothing against the turians or salarians specifically, my choice is practical more than anything.

As for the other races, I can care less about the batarians. The Elcor and hanar contribute little. The Volus are at least good for economic reasons. The drell, meh, they're barely making it as it is let alone after a Reaper war. I hope to bring peace between the quarian and the geth. Neither contribute much to the galaxy as a whole for the most part but I think they have potential to grow.

[GodWood]

Ruathrar wrote...

GodWood wrote...

IrationalFear wrote...
1. Geth (non-heretic)
RIP everyone else. If peace and survival of the galaxy without the Reapers are the ultimate goals, then these two are the only races that seem capable of maintaining peace and managing resources without conflict.

1/ The geth murdered billions of inoccent non-combatants in the Morning War.
2/ The geth commit genocide.
3/ the geth have been attacking anyone who enters their system without warning for three centuries.

1. The Quarians kept attacking them.

Every single man, woman and child? Even when half the popultion and military was already wiped out?
No. There came a point where the quarians posed no real threat to the geth and yet they continued to slaughter millions upon millions who just wanted to live and had no actual involvement in the decision to shut down the geth.

2. Which species did they hunt to total extinction?

They wiped out 99% of the quarian population. That's genocide.

3. We don't know what happened behind the Viel. My bet is anyone going to their system attacked first.

We do know. They became isolationists and destroyed any ships that entered their system.

The Geth are not shining examples of peace.

[Seboist]

The Council should have intervened and wiped out the Geth when they attacked the Quarians. It would have saved us a lot of headaches in the future.

[GodWood]

That would require the Council to look out for a species which isn't part of the big 3.

[darkangelvxvx]

Quarians- you think we kidnap quarians and let them repair our broken down trucks? Not anymore we dont.

[Yakko77]

GodWood wrote...

3. We don't know what happened behind the Viel. My bet is anyone going to their system attacked first.

We do know. They became isolationists and destroyed any ships that entered their system.

The Geth are not shining examples of peace.

There is some indication the Geth "regret" the outcome of the Morning War.  The geth live almost entirely on space stations.  They treat the Quarian homeworld like a "memorial" according to Legion (Arlington National Cemetary and Auschitz-Berchenau being mentioned specifically as a comparison).  Why the Geth/Legion never communicate this beyond talkng to Shep is beyond me.  it would've saved many lives.

[Golden Owl]

Luc0s wrote...

The the f- does everyone put the asari so high on their list? They're friggin' useless against the reapers!

Oh, epic biotics? Big deal! I take massive firepower over biotics anytime any day of the week!

Does the future beyond the Reaper war not count at all?

[SandTrout]

Golden Owl wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

The the f- does everyone put the asari so high on their list? They're friggin' useless against the reapers!

Oh, epic biotics? Big deal! I take massive firepower over biotics anytime any day of the week!

Does the future beyond the Reaper war not count at all?

It does, but that in itself doesn't acount for the overwhelming favor that the Asari are seeing.

Of course, my guess is that people just don't want to give up the opportunity to tap some blue space-*****.

[Seboist]

GodWood wrote...

That would require the Council to look out for a species which isn't part of the big 3.

Indeed, a lot of problems we face in ME1-3 are indirectly their fault. They're the second greatest threat to Galactic peace and stability after the Reapers.

[marshalleck]

Seboist wrote...

GodWood wrote...

That would require the Council to look out for a species which isn't part of the big 3.

Indeed, a lot of problems we face in ME1-3 are indirectly their fault. They're the second greatest threat to Galactic peace and stability after the Reapers.

Yep. Their complacency and unwillingness to act in anyone's favor but their own allows certain problems such as the geth for example to fester. ME1 would for example be completely different had the Council gone in and ended the Morning War decisively, rather than sitting by and watching billions of quarians be murdered by their iphones.

And that's not to say they should have gone in and killed all the geth either. They could have defended quarians attempting to flee and used ground forces to stop the fighting elsewhere. It still would have turned out badly for the quarians, but not nearly so bad. And it may have headed off the heretic problem entirely.

Modifié par marshalleck, 21 août 2011 - 08:15 .

[Golden Owl]

SandTrout wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

The the f- does everyone put the asari so high on their list? They're friggin' useless against the reapers!

Oh, epic biotics? Big deal! I take massive firepower over biotics anytime any day of the week!

Does the future beyond the Reaper war not count at all?

It does, but that in itself doesn't acount for the overwhelming favor that the Asari are seeing.

Of course, my guess is that people just don't want to give up the opportunity to tap some blue space-*****.

As a woman, thankfully that doesn't play into my considerations and it annoys the hell out of me when people use it as their top consideration...Asari were not at the top of my list and are not a favorite of mine...but when I was questioned on my choices in the 'Which Species Would You Save' thread, with the old if you could only save one race out of the whole, etc..., I then choose Asari, due to the fact that I think they (also the Hanar and Elcor) would be the least destructively aggressive towards eventual new and upcoming evolving species.....the Galactically safest option for the far future.

Modifié par Golden Owl, 21 août 2011 - 08:17 .

[Brand New]

In order.

Asari - Key to the galaxy, wise, and peaceful. The Asari are likley the reason the Turians did not go all Krogan wars on us.

Salarians- Their intellegence and leadership is formidable. They are of much need in the galaxy. While humans and turians war, Asari & Quarians are diplomatic, the Salarians are really the premier scientist.

Human- We posses huge biodiversity & much culture though who knows what toll culutre has taken on since the time being has passed as apparently ramen noodles are now a delicacy -__- We are strong, capabale, & posses everything that is important for a race. We are the emerging species in possesion of great scientists, diplomats, soilders, etc. We are all the great qualities of the council into one.

Quarians- They posses such a rich and powerful culture. They are true engineers & would be a great addition to the council someday along side the Salarians. Their enviro suits posses limits that will be eventually overcome. Yes they created an army of synthetic soilders whom have attacked the Citadel etc, but that was many many years ago and things change.

Krogans- This species sets a good balance. They are useful mercinaries, but lack high intellegence which makes them easy to control unlike the Yagh who might thive excessivley off what the galaxy has to offer.

Turians - They are a military dictatorship almost and quite valuable, but can be over agressive and cause high tenssions with others races. Their race is more expendable then humans.

Batarians hate humans and possibly even more so now, but this does not change that they are quite a rich culture of their own. Much of their doom was stubborness, though the council did turn their back on them as humans came onto the scene. The Batarians are an underappricated race who are labeled terroists simply because of their betrail by the council.