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[jbblue05]

Luc0s wrote...



I think we ALL would try to save ALL species.

That isn't what this discussion is about however.


This discussion is about if you have to make a choice, which species (including humanity) would have the highest priority of saving?

No not really

I want to destory the Reapers and won't unnecessarily risk my neck to be nice to a species unless they have vital info to defeat the Reapers

It seems 

[jbblue05]

Luc0s wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Luc0s wrote...



I think we ALL would try to save ALL species.

That isn't what this discussion is about however.


This discussion is about if you have to make a choice, which species (including humanity) would have the highest priority of saving?

No not really

I want to destory the Reapers and won't unnecessarily risk my neck to be nice to a species unless they have vital info to defeat the Reapers

It seems 

Okay let me rephrase it entirely then:


I think none of us enjoys dooming an entire species to extinction. None of us would actually enjoy making such decisions, not in real-life that is.

I can understand that some people enjoy being an evil bastard in-game, but in real-life, no one would actually enjoy deciding over the fate of an entire species.

Shepard isn't dooming anyone the Reapers and the Species own incompetence is dooming them<_<

[Gruntyfy]

Great comments, keep'em coming.

[azerSheppard]

SandTrout wrote...

raynbow wrote...

i would save them all.

He who attempts to defend everything will defend nothing.

Except for Sheperd:ph34r:

[Ianamus]

"Sacrificing" is the wrong word. I'd try to save as many planets as I can (Saving planets makes more sense than saving species, as they are so spread out), but obviously there is a priority list:

1/ Earth. Nearly all of humanity are there, and they would struggle without it. Also, I'm a human myself (obviously) so I'm slightly biased

2/ Migrant Fleet/Rannoch. Contains nearly all of the Quarian population, and (If a peaceful soultion is reached) the majority of the Geth as well

3/ Khaje. The Drell already have small numbers, so losing their homeworld means extinction. As it is very important for the survival of both the Hanar and Drell, it's high on the priority list. 

4/ Palaven. The Turians are a strong species, and would be vital in the conflict. There Homeworld should be saved if possible. 

5/ Sur'kesh. It contains the majority of Salarian females, so is very important for the Salarians continued survival. 

6/ Thessia. The homeworlds take priority, but since Asari are one of the most numerous races, and one of the most spread out, they are the most likely to survive without a homeworld.

7/ Tuchanka. The Krogan are a dangerous species, who are sterile (for now), but their homeworld is next on the list.

8/ Citadel. Not as important as the Homeworlds, but the centre of power in the galaxy.

9/ Illium, followed by other colony worlds of the different races.

10/ Omega. It might actually benefit the galaxy if it were destroyed 

[Yakko77]

EJ107 wrote...

2/ Migrant Fleet/Rannoch. Contains nearly all of the Quarian population, and (If a peaceful soultion is reached) the majority of the Geth as well

The Geth live primarily on space stations.  The Geth treat the Quarian homeworld like a war memorial to their creators.

[Boiny Bunny]

Without having played the game, or experienced the context within such decisions are presented, I believe that I would make the decisions, based on all the available information at the time, that would save the most lives.

If I have to 'sacrifice' 1 species' home planet (including Earth) to save a larger number of lives elsewhere, I would do it.

My thoughts on such decisions (within the ME universe) go something like:

1) Killing one innocent to save 100 is acceptable (or on a larger scale) - if there is no alternative
2) All of the sentient species are worth the same amount. I would not save 1 human over 2 asari, or similar

Modifié par Boiny Bunny, 22 août 2011 - 01:12 .

[Gruntyfy]

I will save 50 percent of the galaxy.

[Last Vizard]

Brand New wrote...

In order.

Asari - Key to the galaxy, wise, and peaceful. The Asari are likley the reason the Turians did not go all Krogan wars on us.

Salarians- Their intellegence and leadership is formidable. They are of much need in the galaxy. While humans and turians war, Asari & Quarians are diplomatic, the Salarians are really the premier scientist.

Human- We posses huge biodiversity & much culture though who knows what toll culutre has taken on since the time being has passed as apparently ramen noodles are now a delicacy -__- We are strong, capabale, & posses everything that is important for a race. We are the emerging species in possesion of great scientists, diplomats, soilders, etc. We are all the great qualities of the council into one.

Quarians- They posses such a rich and powerful culture. They are true engineers & would be a great addition to the council someday along side the Salarians. Their enviro suits posses limits that will be eventually overcome. Yes they created an army of synthetic soilders whom have attacked the Citadel etc, but that was many many years ago and things change.

Krogans- This species sets a good balance. They are useful mercinaries, but lack high intellegence which makes them easy to control unlike the Yagh who might thive excessivley off what the galaxy has to offer.

Turians - They are a military dictatorship almost and quite valuable, but can be over agressive and cause high tenssions with others races. Their race is more expendable then humans.

Batarians hate humans and possibly even more so now, but this does not change that they are quite a rich culture of their own. Much of their doom was stubborness, though the council did turn their back on them as humans came onto the scene. The Batarians are an underappricated race who are labeled terroists simply because of their betrail by the council.

In ME 1 and 2 most pirate and slaver activity is funded by Batarians.... their species deserves Annihilation.

[Last Vizard]

marshalleck wrote...

The asari don't need to resort to military aggression. The fact that they can live for 1000 years means they can simply sit back and wage long-term culture wars on their competitors. And by every indication in the game that's what they've been doing, and it works exceptionally well for them.

This is also a threat that my friends and I discuss the Threat of Asari to Humantiy, from what you see in ME 1 and 2 the Asari and Salarians are the same as Humanity when it comes to violence.... look at the merc groups you fight, Asari and Salarians make up a good number of them.

[snfonseka]

Have to play the game and see what's the situation, before decide anything.

[Last Vizard]

Boiny Bunny wrote...

Without having played the game, or experienced the context within such decisions are presented, I believe that I would make the decisions, based on all the available information at the time, that would save the most lives.

If I have to 'sacrifice' 1 species' home planet (including Earth) to save a larger number of lives elsewhere, I would do it.

My thoughts on such decisions (within the ME universe) go something like:

1) Killing one innocent to save 100 is acceptable (or on a larger scale) - if there is no alternative
2) All of the sentient species are worth the same amount. I would not save 1 human over 2 asari, or similar

Humanity has a very small population compared to Asari, Salarians and Turians, if we loose Earth its game over however if they loose 60-80% of their numbers they'll be in the same boat as post Reaper war Humanity.  I aim to make a Post war situation where humans, Krogans and Quarians have a chance to catch up with the older citedal species.

[Zombiedude101]

I would save those whom I could. I wouldn't let past incidents or racism direct my judgement.

[TobyHasEyes]

Last Vizard wrote...

Brand New wrote...

In order.

Asari - Key to the galaxy, wise, and peaceful. The Asari are likley the reason the Turians did not go all Krogan wars on us.

Salarians- Their intellegence and leadership is formidable. They are of much need in the galaxy. While humans and turians war, Asari & Quarians are diplomatic, the Salarians are really the premier scientist.

Human- We posses huge biodiversity & much culture though who knows what toll culutre has taken on since the time being has passed as apparently ramen noodles are now a delicacy -__- We are strong, capabale, & posses everything that is important for a race. We are the emerging species in possesion of great scientists, diplomats, soilders, etc. We are all the great qualities of the council into one.

Quarians- They posses such a rich and powerful culture. They are true engineers & would be a great addition to the council someday along side the Salarians. Their enviro suits posses limits that will be eventually overcome. Yes they created an army of synthetic soilders whom have attacked the Citadel etc, but that was many many years ago and things change.

Krogans- This species sets a good balance. They are useful mercinaries, but lack high intellegence which makes them easy to control unlike the Yagh who might thive excessivley off what the galaxy has to offer.

Turians - They are a military dictatorship almost and quite valuable, but can be over agressive and cause high tenssions with others races. Their race is more expendable then humans.

Batarians hate humans and possibly even more so now, but this does not change that they are quite a rich culture of their own. Much of their doom was stubborness, though the council did turn their back on them as humans came onto the scene. The Batarians are an underappricated race who are labeled terroists simply because of their betrail by the council.

In ME 1 and 2 most pirate and slaver activity is funded by Batarians.... their species deserves Annihilation.

 Isn't it very important to make a distinction between the actions of a government and its people? Especially when we have no reason for thinking it is a democracy?

 Pirate gangs are made up of criminal batarians, and are funded the (allegedly totalitarian) batarian government

 That should say nothing to us of what should be the fate of the Batarians as a species

[Siansonea]

Save at all costs:

Asari
Salarians
Rachni
Geth

Save if possible:

Humans
Turians
Volus
Hanar
Elcor
Quarians
Drell
Raloi
Protheans?
Varren (they are just animals, after all)
Shifty-looking cows

Exterminate!!!

Batarians
Vorcha
Krogan
Yahg

Modifié par Siansonea II, 23 août 2011 - 09:13 .

[Pedro Costa]

Humans, Salarians, Turians, Geth and, if there's Wrex, Krogan.

[SandTrout]

TobyHasEyes wrote...

 Isn't it very important to make a distinction between the actions of a government and its people? Especially when we have no reason for thinking it is a democracy?

 Pirate gangs are made up of criminal batarians, and are funded the (allegedly totalitarian) batarian government

 That should say nothing to us of what should be the fate of the Batarians as a species

The Batarian people give defacto consent to their governments actions by not changing it. While individual acts of a government cannot be directly atributed to its people, its patterns of opperation can. The Batarian culture accepts these government policies and practices, and as far as we know, has not make significant moves to replace it. If they did not consent to their government at least a little, it would cease to have any authority or power.

People get the government they deserve.

[SandTrout]

Siansonea II wrote...

Save at all costs:

Asari
Salarians
Rachni
Geth

Save if possible:

Humans
...

You go first in dying to save another species, then.

[Seboist]

SandTrout wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Save at all costs:

Asari
Salarians
Rachni
Geth

Save if possible:

Humans
...

You go first in dying to save another species, then.

Seeing others willing to sacrifice humanity for another species makes me almost want to go work for Harbinger.

[SandTrout]

Luc0s wrote...

Seriously, how can anyone say they put another species ahead of their own with a straight face?

Shepard should FIGHT FOR HUMANITY, because NO ONE ELSE WILL!

It's a mental illness.

There seems to be a spectrum of forumites:

Human hating -------Human advancement-------------------Human advancement-------Genocidal
xenophiles              through cooperation                        through force                    maniacs

Modifié par SandTrout, 23 août 2011 - 10:19 .

[Seboist]

Luc0s wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Seeing others willing to sacrifice humanity for another species makes me almost want to go work for Harbinger.

I hear ya bro.


Seriously, I'm a Paragon player all the way through, but I'm not totally hit on the back of my head like some (Paragon players) on this forum are.

Seriously, how can anyone say they put another species ahead of their own with a straight face?


Shepard should FIGHT FOR HUMANITY, because NO ONE ELSE WILL!



I'm Paragon, but I totally will save humanity at all cost!

Yep, even a Paragon Shepard works to advance human interests. That was the whole point of becoming a spectre in the first place in ME1.