Who will you choose? Which species do you save?
#376
Posté 24 août 2011 - 11:06
But if I had to choose a species that would be "sacrificed" I, without batting an eyelash, take the quarians.
Stupid conservative buckets.
#377
Posté 24 août 2011 - 11:18
Siansonea II wrote...
Seboist wrote...
*snip*
Vorcha run liquor distilleries, act as intelligence operatives in Asari worlds and rebuild Hanar colonies among other things. They're far smarter than you Asari lovers give them credit for.
They're good people.
Meh. Never met a vorcha who could string two sentences together. Kill 'em all, let the Goddess sort 'em out.
You never see that because unlike everyone else the Vorcha have the cojones to give Shepard the "I should go" treatment and then flip the bird while they walk away like my boy Shisk did.
#378
Posté 24 août 2011 - 11:28
They would make good ground shocktroopers against the Reaper invasion I'm sure unless ME 2 has lied to us.
Modifié par SkittlesKat96, 24 août 2011 - 11:28 .
#379
Posté 24 août 2011 - 05:38
Seboist wrote...
Siansonea II wrote...
Seboist wrote...
*snip*
Vorcha run liquor distilleries, act as intelligence operatives in Asari worlds and rebuild Hanar colonies among other things. They're far smarter than you Asari lovers give them credit for.
They're good people.
Meh. Never met a vorcha who could string two sentences together. Kill 'em all, let the Goddess sort 'em out.
You never see that because unlike everyone else the Vorcha have the cojones to give Shepard the "I should go" treatment and then flip the bird while they walk away like my boy Shisk did.
Well, I'm sure their homeworld isn't exactly a cultural marvel. Cannon fodder it is!
#380
Posté 24 août 2011 - 06:39
2. Turians
3. Salarians
4. Geth
5. Asari
6. Quarians
7. Krogan
*Everyone else can die if it can't be helped
#381
Posté 25 août 2011 - 02:33
marshalleck wrote...
Think of it like triage.Sisterofshane wrote...
SandTrout wrote...
And on topic, after humans, my priorities would be:
1) Krogan
2) Quarians
3) Vorcha
4) Volus
5) Hanar (By extension, Drell)
6) Elcore
7) Turians
8) Salarians
9) Asari
The vorcha are number three? Truly someone has been hanging with Seboist a little too much...
I kinda figured that the Vorcha, Asari, and Krogan (genophage free, of course), woukd be more likely to bounce back after a catastrophic depopulation, as opposed to the other races. I guess that's why I put them lower on the list...
Quarians would have been 4th on my list....
"They kept calling it murder when I did it."
Modifié par Gromnir, 25 août 2011 - 02:34 .
#382
Posté 25 août 2011 - 08:10
#383
Posté 26 août 2011 - 10:24
SandTrout wrote...
The Batarian people give defacto consent to their governments actions by not changing it. While individual acts of a government cannot be directly atributed to its people, its patterns of opperation can. The Batarian culture accepts these government policies and practices, and as far as we know, has not make significant moves to replace it. If they did not consent to their government at least a little, it would cease to have any authority or power.TobyHasEyes wrote...
Isn't it very important to make a distinction between the actions of a government and its people? Especially when we have no reason for thinking it is a democracy?
Pirate gangs are made up of criminal batarians, and are funded the (allegedly totalitarian) batarian government
That should say nothing to us of what should be the fate of the Batarians as a species
People get the government they deserve.
Said it better than i could've, they'll act as though everything bad about Humanity is a trait of our species however the faults of our Galactic neighbours are all due to circumstances beyond their control. First Contact War Turians fired first and asked questions later....
#384
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Posté 26 août 2011 - 10:30
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
SandTrout wrote...
The Batarian people give defacto consent to their governments actions by not changing it.
That is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my life. Spoken like a true westerner who has never had any experience with that sort of government.
Do you think the Libyans all loved Gadaffi for the last 40 years? You think Castro ha no opposition? What about Sadam?
Without foreign intervention two of those dictators would still be around today.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Deeply ashamed.
#385
Posté 26 août 2011 - 11:17
Saphra Deden wrote...
SandTrout wrote...
The Batarian people give defacto consent to their governments actions by not changing it.
That is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my life. Spoken like a true westerner who has never had any experience with that sort of government.
Do you think the Libyans all loved Gadaffi for the last 40 years? You think Castro ha no opposition? What about Sadam?
Without foreign intervention two of those dictators would still be around today.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Deeply ashamed.
The impression I got from the audio broadcast guy while on Omega is that Batarians accept slavery and laugh at the citadel races while claiming its part of their culture. The population in Australia has become complacent, the cost of living continues to increase even though our dollar is the strongest its ever been.... (one of the strongest dollars to be honest and boasting)
These prices aren't rising due to inflation its all the result of greed, we don't deserve this but the majority consent to it through inaction. what the Libyans, Cubins and Iraqis "feel" doesn't matter it all comes down to action and i'm sure plenty of brave civilians stood up against these dictators knowing the likely outcome however if all the people acted then they could overthrow these men.
Fear prevents people from defending themselves, standing idle while your neighbours die in the street is the same as giving consent. I haven't walked a day in their shoes, felt what they felt and live not knowing if i'll survive tomorrow... hell, if i was tested i'm not sure i'd have the strength of will to fight however inaction is still consent and silence is an answer in the affirmative.
PS. i'm not attacking anyone here i'm just giving my interpretation and opinions.
#386
Posté 26 août 2011 - 11:33
I'd save, in order of priority:
Humanity
The Asari
The Turians
The Salarians.....lets face it, these four are on the council for a reason.....
I'd also place some importance on saving SOME of the Krogan. The one's who have fully come around to Wrex's way of thinking have the potential to become worthwhile members of Galactic Society....the rest are just thugs who I could care less about.
I'd save the Quarians, and if I could broker a peace between them, the Geth. If peace cannot be attained, I'm choosing the Quarians. The Geth might be better against the Reapers, and the conflict between them may be largely the Quarians' fault, but in the long run, I trust the Quarians more. That said, if it was the Quarians who were being the stick in the mud on the road to peace, I'd simply leave them to their own devices.
I would save the Volus, Hanar, and Elcor if possible, but if it means risking any of the above races, or any real portion of my fleet, they are going to be left to burn.
The Vorcha and Batarians are a blight upon galactic society. I won't intentionally get them killed....but if the Reapers attack them, I won't shed any tears. Of course, based on the location of the Arrival DLC, odds are the Batarians are probably almost extinct by now anyway.
#387
Posté 26 août 2011 - 11:35
#388
Posté 27 août 2011 - 02:39
#389
Posté 27 août 2011 - 02:53
Gruntyfy wrote...
Save Earth, the rest can wait.
Same, gotta look out for your own.
#390
Posté 27 août 2011 - 07:03
#391
Posté 27 août 2011 - 07:30
Except that I can almost guarantee you that I have more experience with varrious governments and cultures than you, as well as the experences of other mentors that I have had with those governements that I have not seen in person.Saphra Deden wrote...
That is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my life. Spoken like a true westerner who has never had any experience with that sort of government.
Just because opposition exists does not mean that it is a majority or even a large minority of the population. In Lybia, they are overthrowing the Gadaffi regime, but what about those people that are fighting for Gadaffi? Gadaffi cannot exert power without those that are willing to obey their orders. We are still yet to see if the new regime is 'better' or 'worse' by western standards. In egypt, they overthrew Mubarak, and now there are grumblings of nullifying the peace agreement with Isreal. Not much of an improvement there from my perspective.Do you think the Libyans all loved Gadaffi for the last 40 years? You think Castro ha no opposition? What about Sadam?
Because those dictators had the support of large portions of the populus, and the other parts did not have the will to remove them on their own.Without foreign intervention two of those dictators would still be around today.
Or how about the people that follow the orders of tyrants should be ashamed? I cannot control anyone except myself.You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Deeply ashamed.
#392
Posté 27 août 2011 - 07:34
#393
Posté 27 août 2011 - 07:37
Feel free to start with yourself, then.Quole wrote...
Humans are last on my list.
#394
Posté 27 août 2011 - 07:39
#395
Posté 27 août 2011 - 07:56
#396
Posté 27 août 2011 - 09:34
#397
Posté 27 août 2011 - 09:52
2. Asari. -Amazing reproductive capabilities and very competent in battle.
3. Krogan -Again, amazing reproductive capabilities and extreamly competent in battle, but require the control of...
4. Salarians. -Short lived, but the species tends to show prowess in the invention of new technologies and medical advancement that could prove essential in turning the tide of battle. At least one of them is essential to free the Krogan race, and we may need to collar them again if they start to become a problem.
5. Quarians. -Their space fleet, although composed mostly of junk, is fairly impressive. We'll need them to fight the Reapers since the Human fleet is sort of... obliterated.
6. Turians -Good military prowess, tactics, and discipline, but fairly unremarkable otherwise. Humans probably have better military tactics, Salarians have better technologies, and Krogan are definitely much stronger. We don't really *need* the Turians, but it'd be silly not to have them along too.
7. Geth - Any 'hive mind' species like the Geth worry me. Although formidable, the risk of them becoming indoctrinated or hacked is pretty great. Since they all seem to share a sort of brain, getting to one could mean the entire species would be against me. Not exactly a great force to have fighting against me, although they are pretty powerful allies at the same time.
8. Rachni? - I have no good idea what an organized force of Rachni can do, and I single handily stomped them down pretty easily when I met them. That and they are a hive mind, so it's just as likely they can become easily indoctrinated like I fear with the Geth. Keeping them alive could prove to be a mistake. Would give me a good bargaining tool for 'unleashing' the krogan though, which can at least serve as a temporary ally since I have Wrex and Grunt likely on my side.
Races that can rot in hell:
1. Batarians -I've met like, one Batarian who didn't want to kill me. Then I blew up their galaxy. They aren't exactly in a good position to help me, even if they wanted too. Probably better to let them get turned into space zombies.
2. The Vorcha. Is it wrong to let an entire race of vermin meet their end to genocide purely for being annoying, ugly, and smelly? I don't think so. Besides, they also tend to be trying to kill me, or at least showing an odd desire to eat my flesh. They'd fit right in with the space zombie crowd, I think.
#398
Posté 27 août 2011 - 09:59
2. Salarians
3. Volus
4. Turians
5. Elcor
6. Humans
7. Hanar
8. Geth
9. Quarians
10. Drell
11. Batarians
#399
Posté 28 août 2011 - 03:00
#400
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Posté 28 août 2011 - 03:05
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
SandTrout wrote...
Except that I can almost guarantee you that I have more experience with varrious governments and cultures than you, as well as the experences of other mentors that I have had with those governements that I have not seen in person.
Yeah and I'm a doctor.
SandTrout wrote...
Just because opposition exists does not mean that it is a majority or even a large minority of the population.
The majority is usually not very proactive as long as they can live their lives comfortably.
SandTrout wrote...
Or how about the people that follow the orders of tyrants should be ashamed? I cannot control anyone except myself.
Did I say they shouldn't be? Though for the record you are simplifying a very complex situation. Defiance is easy when it isn't your ass on the line.
Stay in the suburbs, kid.





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