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[Someone With Mass]

I'm actually more interested to see what happens if the oh, so special humans just dies out completely.

Sure as hell sounds better than doing something so unbelievably stupid as sacrificing other species to save just one.

[-Tentei-]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

SandTrout wrote...
The fact that it is your own species is everything. You can hope for a better future for yourself and your decendents as long as your species exists. If you species dies off, then all your hopes for the future die with it. If you value other species above the survival of your own, then you are expressing a very unhealthy self-hate that is extremely self-destructive.

All races die out sooner or later.

And in case you haven't noticed, humanity is extremely self-destructive as well. I'm merely letting the process go faster.

Then you are part of the problem and can only blame yourself.

go emo somewhere else...

One of the problems with humans being self destructive is that we as a species are very short sighting and there are not nearly enough people whom know of our problem and can solve it. The only human who has ever attempted this was Nicoli Tesla but he was to advanced for his time period to make any real difference.

[HogarthHughes 3]

Someone With Mass wrote...

All races die out sooner or later.

And in case you haven't noticed, humanity is extremely self-destructive as well. I'm merely letting the process go faster.

Someone With Mass wrote...

1. Quarians
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Hmm...

[marshalleck]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I'm actually more interested to see what happens if the oh, so special humans just dies out completely.

Sure as hell sounds better than doing something so unbelievably stupid as sacrificing other species to save just one.

That will be the non-canon ending, like Shep failing the suicide misison. Sorry, the game is about saving Earth and humanity.

[Sisterofshane]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I'm actually more interested to see what happens if the oh, so special humans just dies out completely.

Sure as hell sounds better than doing something so unbelievably stupid as sacrificing other species to save just one.

I wouldn't use the word "better" -- I might say "more interesting", or possibly "shocking", but I really don't see the ending of our species as "better".

As to the OP, my top three to save would be the Humans, Turians, and the Salarians.  Just because.

[SandTrout]

All races die out sooner or later.

This is simply not true. The species that led up to Humanity did not die out, they evolved. All current species are the product of a strain of genetics that did not die out.

And in case you haven't noticed, humanity is extremely self-destructive as well. I'm merely letting the process go faster.

Yes, so self destructive that our species' population is still growing. We compete over scarce resources like all other species because that is the nature of things, and we have become powerful because of it. We also cooperate in order to make the best use out of available resouces. The net result is not self-destructive, it is productive, judging by the only objective means, which is population levels.

Eventually, we may reach the equilibrium point where the available resources will not support our population, but due to our intellect, that point has not been reached yet. In ME, we are able to terraform and colonize new worlds, further expanding our resource base, and that of other species. Our species will continue to do what it was designed to do: Persist. To claim otherwise is to deny fundemental principals of nature.

[Last Vizard]

SandTrout wrote...

raynbow wrote...

i would save them all.

He who attempts to defend everything will defend nothing.

If only ME3 rewards strategic choices and punishes bleeding hearts lol

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

-Tentei- wrote...
One of the problems with humans being self destructive is that we as a species are very short sighting and there are not nearly enough people whom know of our problem and can solve it. The only human who has ever attempted this was Nicoli Tesla but he was to advanced for his time period to make any real difference.

Mankind as a whole would be better off if Nicoli was alive today,his ideas were radical for the time but imagine what he could do with todays technoligy,free global energy?

We hardly knew ye.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 20 août 2011 - 05:58 .

[SandTrout]

And on topic, after humans, my priorities would be:

1) Krogan
2) Quarians
3) Vorcha
4) Volus
5) Hanar (By extension, Drell)
6) Elcore
7) Turians
8) Salarians
9) Asari

[Sisterofshane]

Last Vizard wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

raynbow wrote...

i would save them all.

He who attempts to defend everything will defend nothing.

If only ME3 rewards strategic choices and punishes bleeding hearts lol

Sadly, it does.

It's right on the official website. Under the home page, info tab.  The first sentence is "Not everyone will survive".

[Last Vizard]

SandTrout wrote...

All races die out sooner or later.

This is simply not true. The species that led up to Humanity did not die out, they evolved. All current species are the product of a strain of genetics that did not die out.

And in case you haven't noticed, humanity is extremely self-destructive as well. I'm merely letting the process go faster.

Yes, so self destructive that our species' population is still growing. We compete over scarce resources like all other species because that is the nature of things, and we have become powerful because of it. We also cooperate in order to make the best use out of available resouces. The net result is not self-destructive, it is productive, judging by the only objective means, which is population levels.

Eventually, we may reach the equilibrium point where the available resources will not support our population, but due to our intellect, that point has not been reached yet. In ME, we are able to terraform and colonize new worlds, further expanding our resource base, and that of other species. Our species will continue to do what it was designed to do: Persist. To claim otherwise is to deny fundemental principals of nature.

Once we have the tech, soon we will harness fusion for energy and mine the moon/asteroid belt for materials.... hippies and bleeding hearts underestimate us. 

[Someone With Mass]

HogarthHughes 3 wrote...

Hmm...

Do you have a point?

I don't give a damn about the humans in Mass Effect (they disgust me, even) and it's a game, and I can do whatever I want. Simple as that.

[Last Vizard]

Sisterofshane wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

raynbow wrote...

i would save them all.

He who attempts to defend everything will defend nothing.

If only ME3 rewards strategic choices and punishes bleeding hearts lol

Sadly, it does.

It's right on the official website. Under the home page, info tab.  The first sentence is "Not everyone will survive".

I hope they aren't exagerating when they say that, good bye Batarian slavers and space strippers.

Modifié par Last Vizard, 20 août 2011 - 06:01 .

[DRSH]

The cycle cannot be broken.

[SandTrout]

Nicola Tesla refused to accept that he should have sold his 'free energy' on the cheap, which would have attracted investors that might have helped protect him from Edison's political machinations. He was a brilliant scientist, but apparently naive of the reality of things, which I find truly regrettable.

[Sisterofshane]

SandTrout wrote...

And on topic, after humans, my priorities would be:

1) Krogan
2) Quarians
3) Vorcha
4) Volus
5) Hanar (By extension, Drell)
6) Elcore
7) Turians
8) Salarians
9) Asari

The vorcha are number three?  Truly someone has been hanging with Seboist a little too much...

I kinda figured that the Vorcha, Asari, and Krogan (genophage free, of course), woukd be more likely to bounce back after a catastrophic depopulation, as opposed to the other races.  I guess that's why I put them lower on the list...

Quarians would have been 4th on my list....

[marshalleck]

Sisterofshane wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

And on topic, after humans, my priorities would be:

1) Krogan
2) Quarians
3) Vorcha
4) Volus
5) Hanar (By extension, Drell)
6) Elcore
7) Turians
8) Salarians
9) Asari

The vorcha are number three?  Truly someone has been hanging with Seboist a little too much...

I kinda figured that the Vorcha, Asari, and Krogan (genophage free, of course), woukd be more likely to bounce back after a catastrophic depopulation, as opposed to the other races.  I guess that's why I put them lower on the list...

Quarians would have been 4th on my list....

Think of it like triage.

[SandTrout]

Someone With Mass wrote...

HogarthHughes 3 wrote...

Hmm...

Do you have a point?

I don't give a damn about the humans in Mass Effect (they disgust me, even) and it's a game, and I can do whatever I want. Simple as that.

You can do whatever you want. We are simply pointing out that you are apparently valuing a species that is much closer is extinction already over you own, prosperous species, on the grounds that all species are going to die out anyways (which is false) and you're just speeding it along.

[HogarthHughes 3]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Do you have a point?

I don't give a damn about the humans in Mass Effect (they disgust me, even) and it's a game, and I can do whatever I want. Simple as that.

Of course you can.  Just noting the hypocrisy of devaluing one species because of self-destructive tendencies, while favoring another that has an overwhelming propensity for self-destruction.

Modifié par HogarthHughes 3, 21 août 2011 - 12:28 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

I don't know who I would save,I'll obviously try and save as many as I can but having to choose would prove to be difficult.

1.Salarians
2.Geth
3.Krogan
4.Volus
5.Hanar
6.Quarians(they will be introduced to human robot apocalypse movies so they know to put remote destruct in robots.)
7.Vorcha
8.Asari
9.Elcor
10.Turians(Could be made number 3 if they become offical allies and treaty of farixen gets rewritten to make humans and turians galaxy cops.)

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 20 août 2011 - 06:11 .

[Sisterofshane]

marshalleck wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

And on topic, after humans, my priorities would be:

1) Krogan
2) Quarians
3) Vorcha
4) Volus
5) Hanar (By extension, Drell)
6) Elcore
7) Turians
8) Salarians
9) Asari

The vorcha are number three?  Truly someone has been hanging with Seboist a little too much...

I kinda figured that the Vorcha, Asari, and Krogan (genophage free, of course), woukd be more likely to bounce back after a catastrophic depopulation, as opposed to the other races.  I guess that's why I put them lower on the list...

Quarians would have been 4th on my list....

Think of it like triage.

Exactly.

[Last Vizard]

Someone With Mass wrote...

HogarthHughes 3 wrote...

Hmm...

Do you have a point?

I don't give a damn about the humans in Mass Effect (they disgust me, even) and it's a game, and I can do whatever I want. Simple as that.

True,     betray your own race then.

[KotorEffect3]

Someone With Mass wrote...

HogarthHughes 3 wrote...

Hmm...

Do you have a point?

I don't give a damn about the humans in Mass Effect (they disgust me, even) and it's a game, and I can do whatever I want. Simple as that.

Not to start siding with renegades but the other races aren't any better.  The galaxy was a screwed up place long before we came on the scene.  We are no better and no worse than anybody else.  Just about all the major races have some blood on their hands.

[marshalleck]

Sisterofshane wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

And on topic, after humans, my priorities would be:

1) Krogan
2) Quarians
3) Vorcha
4) Volus
5) Hanar (By extension, Drell)
6) Elcore
7) Turians
8) Salarians
9) Asari

The vorcha are number three?  Truly someone has been hanging with Seboist a little too much...

I kinda figured that the Vorcha, Asari, and Krogan (genophage free, of course), woukd be more likely to bounce back after a catastrophic depopulation, as opposed to the other races.  I guess that's why I put them lower on the list...

Quarians would have been 4th on my list....

Think of it like triage.

Exactly.

Well, what I mean is, since they would be more likely to 'bounce back' as it were, you'd put them higher. That way you're less likely to invest resources in a failed proposition.

[SandTrout]

@Sisterofshane,

Note that I placed 3 of the weakest nations at the top of my list. Humans are my number 1 priority, always, and those species pose the least threat to humanity, and would actually probably be amenable to joining us as a client species.

The Bottom 3 on my list were the Council species because the pose the greatest obstacle to human expansion, and are least likely to join humanity as either subservient or co-equal status.

However, there will be no species sacrificed on pure basis of wanting to get rid of them (besides the Batarians). All species besides humanity will be subject to triage based on obtainable tactical advantage. Assuming equivalent tactical advantage, however, then my list enters into the picture.