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JimmyTheProthean

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I am very worried heres a quoate -
[*]The team will try to resolve the situation regarding the "Old God Baby", and will try and show fans what happened regarding the child.    I hope they dont kill it off its supposed to have a destiny if they make Origins in Da3 i want to play as my son thats why i picked the Dark rithual because the taught of playing as my son with the soul of an old god and the son of morrigan greatly appeases me so bioware please do not kill him or make flemeth or morrigan destroy him or anything if you cant at least make him an origin please make him a companion from a faithfull morginator and loyal fan :D

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IanPolaris

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I think they kill it off. I get the strong impression that Bioware has regetted the OGB almost from the moment they made it possible.

-Polaris

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Yuqi

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Not all of us accepted the ritual, some of us would rather make the U.S instead of bringing an OGB into the world. What about those players?

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JimmyTheProthean

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Yuqi wrote...

Not all of us accepted the ritual, some of us would rather make the U.S instead of bringing an OGB into the world. What about those players?


Thats why i said only if they make origins in DA3 alow us to play him if we picked the rithual he wont be in your game in you didnt pick it obviously but knowing bioware i killed liliana and she was alive in DA2 even though i imported my save where i killed her.

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JimmyTheProthean wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Not all of us accepted the ritual, some of us would rather make the U.S instead of bringing an OGB into the world. What about those players?


Thats why i said only if they make origins in DA3 alow us to play him if we picked the rithual he wont be in your game in you didnt pick it obviously but knowing bioware i killed liliana and she was alive in DA2 even though i imported my save where i killed her.


I don't think we'll be playing as the OGB ever, if for no other reason than the childs gender is canon. He is a male, and I don't think Bioware will eliminate gender choice from the CC.

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JimmyTheProthean

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suzaku77 wrote...

JimmyTheProthean wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Not all of us accepted the ritual, some of us would rather make the U.S instead of bringing an OGB into the world. What about those players?


Thats why i said only if they make origins in DA3 alow us to play him if we picked the rithual he wont be in your game in you didnt pick it obviously but knowing bioware i killed liliana and she was alive in DA2 even though i imported my save where i killed her.


I don't think we'll be playing as the OGB ever, if for no other reason than the childs gender is canon. He is a male, and I don't think Bioware will eliminate gender choice from the CC.



I don't think you guys get me they said they will go back to the origins if fans really want it this is from gamescon so you could play as a female on a different origin but the ogb origin would only be male.

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I think the Old God Baby potentially throws such a large monkey-wrench into the world that Bioware regrets making it. I've got that impression almost from the moment that DAO was published. That said, I think if there was an OGB it will be killed and thus it will be one more choice that really ultimately wasn't one.

-Polaris

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JimmyTheProthean wrote...

suzaku77 wrote...

JimmyTheProthean wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Not all of us accepted the ritual, some of us would rather make the U.S instead of bringing an OGB into the world. What about those players?


Thats why i said only if they make origins in DA3 alow us to play him if we picked the rithual he wont be in your game in you didnt pick it obviously but knowing bioware i killed liliana and she was alive in DA2 even though i imported my save where i killed her.


I don't think we'll be playing as the OGB ever, if for no other reason than the childs gender is canon. He is a male, and I don't think Bioware will eliminate gender choice from the CC.



I don't think you guys get me they said they will go back to the origins if fans really want it this is from gamescon so you could play as a female on a different origin but the ogb origin would only be male.


Even if they do go back to origins, why would they make one of the origins exclusively male?

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"BioWare... resolve.... Old God Baby situation?"
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The resolution or consequence to what is supposed to be the biggest choice of Origins will likely come via a line of dialogue you'll be lucky to get from Hot Rod Samurai art style Morrigan, but of course, that dialogue branch will be bugged to high hell due to the import issues which have existed with literally every single Morrigan related plot flag.

Note, they say "try." When this likely should have been a big consequence resolved in an expack for DAO and not dragged out this far, seeing as they've effectively killed off the Warden as PC no matter if you did the DR or not.

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I'd rather they resolve the Orsino idiocy for pro-mage people. Their reasoning for that boss fight being "We wanted another boss fight".

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BAH! Has to be the worst reasoning I've ever seen for doing something that makes no sense for pro-mage people on any level.


edit: and by resolve, I mean retcon. There were other ways they could've had the Harvester boss fight without killing Orsino for pro-mage people.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 20 août 2011 - 04:26 .


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KnightofPhoenix

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I highly doubt it will be any real substantial resolution. Probably a codex, a few lines of dialogue or at best an inconsequential side quest. That is if they don't just kill it off as Polaris said.

I will be glad if they prove me wrong, but I doubt they will.

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Yeah, Brock and Michael Jordan up there pretty much cover my reaction.

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I would like to see it resolved.

Even if I thought the DR was a idiot copout the second it was introduced.

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anyway, my anger at how Orsino was handled aside, I too am in the camp that believes Bioware regrets making the OGB thing a choice. It would be one thing if Morrigan had said she wouldn't stop because you said no and that she knew other rituals, and you still died.

But I see Bioware as screwed on this issue.

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I think it was all a trick by Flemeth. Morrigan is actually your sister, and she made you have incest baby without you knowing it.

She's gonna blackmail you with it to get you to carry her magic scrunchy to the Orlesian alps in Dragon Age 3.

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JimmyTheProthean

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Killing Orisno to make another boss fight was one of the worst things bioware has ever done he was awesome and didnt need to die!

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Ryzaki wrote...

Even if I thought the DR was a idiot copout the second it was introduced.


Thats the problem with the DR as it exists in Origins- there is no reason within Origins not to do it. Sure for RP reasons you might turn it down, but the entire choice is in large part predicated on your PC's relationship and trust of Morrigan and that you would trust her with a possible OGB in the future.

Its not even so much a choice of living or dying as you can easily live without doing the DR if you want. As its presented in the game to the player, its a choice which is made out to be very important and a BIG choice with BIG consequences- that you're creating the OGB and you'd be the first Warden to be able to personally kill the AD without dying.

And yet, since it happens so close to the end, nothing ever comes of it. And since BioWare is insistent on never playing as the Warden again, the player will never be able to personally experienc any consequences of a DR Warden's actions, good or bad. At most you'll be on the outside looking in, giving BioWare an easy out for just tossing in a lame cameo or codex or line of dialogue while waving their hands and saying "Oooooooh! The OGB is a mystery now! Ooooooooh!"

Modifié par Brockololly, 20 août 2011 - 04:40 .


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My canon Warden didn't agree to the Dark Ritual, but I have no problem with Bioware deciding to run with the OGB story. I'll just use one of my other Wardens for future games. Nothing to get hung up over.

Yes, we had a choice, and it was a pretty cool one, but I don't see why it's wrong for Bioware to decide on a continuality for a future game. Otherwise we'll be stuck forever with small choices that *can't* dramatically change the world to different effects, because apparently the devs have to be scared about players wanting it both ways and being prepared to get the torches and pitchforks if they don't.

If the OGB situation can give us a good game situation, then bloody well go for it.

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I don't see how this can be pulled off without resorting to something ridiculous.But I have no real concerns- I always accepted the ritual, whether she was my LI or not.

Modifié par FJVP, 20 août 2011 - 04:44 .


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Lucy Glitter

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 I don't think anyone wants it, "resolved." I want it to be explored!!!!!!

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1) I want to see more Morrigan/OGB even if I am already convinced that Bioware will F*** it up and anything they do will be a disappointment.
2) The OGB wasn't in my game and Bioware shouldn't waste resources on stories that don't pertain to me personally

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With this kind of reaction, is it really a wonder that they haven't tackled this problem yet?

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...
If the OGB situation can give us a good game situation, then bloody well go for it.


I agree in principle. If there is one choice that offers a lot of story potential vs another that has no story potential, I am all for ignoring the latter and canonizing the former (hence why I did not mind TW2 canonizing Triss as the romance interest of TW1, though they could have added a line or two of dialogue to explain it).

But I doubt it's going to happen.

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 Funny how things work.

People complain there's never going to be OGB resolution, how Gaider hates Morrigan fans, ect. That is, until they announce they'll resolve it. Then people laugh it off.

Make up your minds, people.

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phaonica wrote...

1) I want to see more Morrigan/OGB even if I am already convinced that Bioware will F*** it up and anything they do will be a disappointment.

[/sarc]

With this kind of reaction, is it really a wonder that they haven't tackled this problem yet?


With a rushed DR and a bugged Witch hunt that offered little to no closure, is it really a wonder that we have reactions like this in the first place?

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...
If the OGB situation can give us a good game situation, then bloody well go for it.


I agree in principle. If there is one choice that offers a lot of story potential vs another that has no story potential, I am all for ignoring the latter and canonizing the former (hence why I did not mind TW2 canonizing Triss as the romance interest of TW1, though they could have added a line or two of dialogue to explain it).

But I doubt it's going to happen.


You'd have to remove a lot of content (current Bioware speak for AWESOMENESS) to allow for that canonization :P.