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Lots of New info from Gamescon regarding DA3 And future DLC.


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Isn't there yet one final round of Q&A today?

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Theagg wrote...

But, graphics are not everything. Yes, for example, Witcher 2's graphics were superior in several ways. But they were let down by the weird 'depth of field' and lens artifacts things going on in nearly every scene, giving the impression you were playing the game from the perspective of a camera, rather than a human eye. (and some specifically 'camera' moments ..blood spatter on the lens for example....blew the realism, for the short time I played the game)


Egads, how much I hate those TW2 lens effects, made it look like a cheap movie with all the ridiculous blood spatter.:lol:

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JimmyTheProthean wrote...


[*]The decision of whether to have a set character in the style of DAII, or multiple origins a la Dragon Age: Origins will be based on fan feedback.



Sigh.... It's been over a year and I still couldn't get confirmation wheter DA 3 Player Character is going to be set character or not. 

JimmyTheProthean wrote...
[*]We will find out more about the Hawke family in future DLC, specifically, Hawke themself.


Good Luck with that BioWare.

JimmyTheProthean wrote...

[*]Melo would love to see more of Isabela.
[*]Future content will see the same companions and love interests return.


The only companion that I'm interested with is Morrigan. If the companions are as shallow as DA 2 companion that only talk when they want to and no more private chats like in DAO, then this companions are as good as mercenary guard . They're all useless for romance.


JimmyTheProthean wrote...

[*]Melo has some regrets regarding DAII, where he feels things could have been executed better. He mentions that Bioware wants to make sure combat feels natural, and no environments are reused. He also mentions that he agrees with people who reacted negatively to the impact of choice (or lack, thereof), saying that the quest All That Remains comes to mind. He says that choices and their consequences will be a major focal point of future content.

That's good. Choice without varifying consequences is as good as no choice at all.

JimmyTheProthean wrote...[*]It is "absolutely possible" that we will see both Hawke and The Warden again.


What is that suppose to mean? I thought BioWare will not bring back Hawke and The Warden.

JimmyTheProthean wrote...
[*]Morrigan is an absolutely critical character, and it is "very likely" that we will hear of or encounter both her and the Warden once again.


You mean Claudia Black is back as Morrigan or someone else with different personality? And who is this Warden you are talking about? My Maverick Cousland lives happily with Morrigan beyond the portal and my Amber Cousland is resting eternally. 

JimmyTheProthean wrote...

[*]Grey Wardens are a "pillar" to what's going on in Dragon Age.

My Wardens certainly are and I love them all especially Amber.

JimmyTheProthean wrote...[*]Not done with Hawke's story.

I'm done with Hawke story. Why should I settle for more broken cliff hanging and missing person like Hawke. He is not my character.

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 20 août 2011 - 01:06 .


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Instead of bringing back Origins, I'd rather a set character whose "prologue" becomes radically different depending on their choices.

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Fiddles_stix wrote...
Good to see some confimation on Morrigan and Flemeth. Interesting how the god baby doesn't seem to be equated into the story, more of a case of "we'll resolve that plot thread because the fans are asking for it" than functional plot.

Old God Baby cannot be equated into the story because it's not present in a good chunk of DA:O versions of the story.

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While that's true in general I still think you're assuming a lot in this case that we as outsiders just don't know about the way the teams operate together. Until a dev comes out and says "we sacrificed content for graphical upgrades" you can't really make that claim with anything to back it up.

It's not that hard to follow the train of logic behind my assumption. Then again, it is part of human nature to assume that correlation equals causation.
(I should know better than to follow that due to the fact I am a science man, but I'm still human).

Modifié par Xewaka, 20 août 2011 - 01:23 .


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Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

What is that suppose to mean? I thought BioWare will not bring back Hawke and The Warden.

They won't bring them back as protagonists but we may see them in cameos.

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Instead of bringing back Origins, I'd rather a set character whose "prologue" becomes radically different depending on their choices.


Interesting alternative. DAII was missing that prologue entirely. Just 10-20 minutes of separate class based introduction material (I.E. Warrior Hawke escaping Ostagar with Carver, Mage Hawke hiding his identity in Lothering...) would have done DAII a world of good IMO.

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Different races,different origins different classes... All fundamental parts of rpg character creation.

More than that, variety of choices in character creation increases replayability exponentially.
Replayability increases game life, which will in turn sustain the market for DLC.

Bring back the origins you pirates.

Old God Baby should be a possible companion in DA3.

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TBH when I first saw this :


[quote]JimmyTheProthean wrote...




[*]The decision of whether to have a set character in the style of DAII, or multiple origins a la Dragon Age: Origins will be based on fan feedback.[/quote]
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I was excited.
But now, looking at the original sentence - I got this feeling it is quite the oposite:

[10:04] How do you feel the character-based storyline of Hawke worked compared to the world-based story from Dragon Age: Origins?
FM: That is a very good question. So, for Dragon Age 2 we wanted to create a story that was a lot more intimate. And in order to do that we had to revolve it around making you feel much more attached to an individual. And, this plays into the fact that the character now speaks. We also brought in family as a component of what’s happening to the world of Hawke and the issues that he or she is trying to deal with in Kirkwall. So it’s very important to try and build that up. So, for some people that means the story doesn’t feel as epic – it’s not as world-changing as what we did with Origins. But, fromm our perspective, I thought it was actually a much stronger story from that side. And, I think moving forward, we’ll have to see where the future takes us. But, we’d love to get more of your feedback on that as well.
http://biowarefans.c...a-presentation/


And "But we’d love to get more of your feedback on that as well" doesn't sound like "will be based on fan feedback" to me.

Modifié par xkg, 20 août 2011 - 01:27 .


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Sacred_Fantasy wrote...
What is that suppose to mean? I thought BioWare will not bring back Hawke and The Warden.


Someone clearly hasn't been following what the devs have said....

You mean Claudia Black is back as Morrigan or someone else with different personality? And who is this Warden you are talking about? My Maverick Cousland lives happily with Morrigan beyond the portal and my Amber Cousland is resting eternally. 



*facepalm*


I'm done with Hawke story. Why should I settle for more broken cliff hanging and missing person like Hawke. He is not my character.


And you expect us to care? And if you're done with Hawke's story then don'y buy the DLCs or what they offer and stay silent while some of us enjoy the story with our Hawke.


@Vrex_12 Should be one more today yes.

Modifié par Prince_12, 20 août 2011 - 02:42 .


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Bioware needs to either go two ways with their DA protagonists. Either make them set (like Shepard) or return to a DA:O sort of protagonist where it's pretty much up to the player to make their own character. Hawke was just this ... horrible middle-ground where you didn't even know that much about him.

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alex90c wrote...

Bioware needs to either go two ways with their DA protagonists. Either make them set (like Shepard) or return to a DA:O sort of protagonist where it's pretty much up to the player to make their own character. Hawke was just this ... horrible middle-ground where you didn't even know that much about him.


At least he was more 'alive' than the warden, who was more of a walking zombie or something...

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Prince_12 wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Bioware needs to either go two ways with their DA protagonists. Either make them set (like Shepard) or return to a DA:O sort of protagonist where it's pretty much up to the player to make their own character. Hawke was just this ... horrible middle-ground where you didn't even know that much about him.


At least he was more 'alive' than the warden, who was more of a walking zombie or something...


Bioware will be having voiced protagonists in DA no matter what, so if it's voice you're worried about then there's no need. It's just deciding whether to go forward with Shepards set characters or Wardens characters with more ambiguous backgrounds. Of course, I suppose if the dialogue wheel is here to stay, we're going to be forced constantly to make diplomatic derp/sarcastic derp/dickish derp characters all the time.

EDIT - not enough vitriol

Modifié par alex90c, 20 août 2011 - 03:09 .


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I'm all relatively content with this news. I was no fan of Dragon Age 2 but I can easily admit it was okay, even pretty good. If there's DLC to enhance the experience, I say go for it.
Not gonna lie though. I miss the warden. :c

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Thank you so much for posting this! Quick thing that bugged me about this, though. Was it just me or did it seem like they were trying to connect DA3 to DAO and not so much to DA2. I know some people didn't like it (to put it lightly), but it was good enough to be at least mentioned in DA3. Excited to see more DLC, even if an item pack is the only thing coming out for the rest of this month. I also hope that the rest of the content for DA2 (or DA3) doesn't continue to focus on the wardens. I love them SO MUCH, but something new would be nice.

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alex90c wrote...
Bioware will be having voiced protagonists in DA no matter what, so if it's voice you're worried about then there's no need. It's just deciding whether to go forward with Shepards set characters or Wardens characters with more ambiguous backgrounds. Of course, I suppose if the dialogue wheel is here to stay, we're going to be forced constantly to make diplomatic derp/sarcastic derp/dickish derp characters all the time.


I do have to agree that the silent protagonist has more dialog lines which builds up your character, I do prefer a voiced much more. They should have IMO make the dialog tree something similiar to how the made Leliana's Song.

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Thanks OP thats is a very good post! Warden and hawke "possible"?? Oh yes! oh yes!..../multigasms. err sorry! >.>;

Couple of week we get news for the new DLC!!!! thats very sweet! hehe so happy!
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Why does it have to be linked to the grey wardens? Sorry but I think that the grey wardens are overrated. They're not the only ones who know how to fight.

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Thank you OP! This info pleases me.:wizard:<3<3<3

BioWare, more story DLC this year please. :bandit:

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Thanks for the summary OP.

Understand the focus on Hawke for DLC, although I kinda hope they manage to find a way to make Fenris reasonably important for one of them. In some ways he is the most detached from the plot of DA2 and it would be nice for him to have an important role in some DLC. Obviously his being an optional companion hurts that somewhat though.

Glad they have taken some of the more serious complaints about DA2 to heart, feel pretty confident we won't see those return in DA3.

Oh and PLEASE give us a Varric romance in future content. I feel certain that his popularity as a non-romancable character would at the very least lead to a large number of people trying the romance out on playthroughs just to see what it's like, even if they wouldn't usually romance a Dwarf. And anyway, with the Hobbit on the horizon Dwarves are going to be sexier than they have ever been.

Whilst you're at it, can I have a female Dwarf romance too please? :P

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their talking about their expansion pack maybe that's what is gonna have the same graphics as Draogn Age 2. Then when dragon age 3 comes out it will have better graphics. I can't wait till they release Asunder and Dragon Age 2 epansion pack. I hope it's soon. I hope the asunder DLC comes out this year and the expansion pack comes out in the beginning or middle of 2012

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Hopefully Fernando can come to the forums sometime and talk about high-resolution textures, since nobody in Germany wanted to ask.

Alicia Keys wrote...

their talking about their expansion pack maybe that's what is gonna have the same graphics as Draogn Age 2. Then when dragon age 3 comes out it will have better graphics. I can't wait till they release Asunder and Dragon Age 2 epansion pack. I hope it's soon. I hope the asunder DLC comes out this year and the expansion pack comes out in the beginning or middle of 2012

Asunder is a novel, by David Gaider. It releases at the end of the year. They'll be announcing new "story" DLC next week (as well as releasing the second item pack DLC).

As for graphics, I very much doubt it. I think it was just their way of saying that they're not switching engines, and they hope to start with the assets (models, textures, etc.) they've created when doing DA3 (vs. throwing them out and starting over, like they did with DA2).

I'm sure Andreas will implement more visual effects to throw on top of everything so that people will think it's more "pretty" (even though the models are exactly the same), and the area design will influence the look, so it won't necessarily look exactly like DA2.

Modifié par devSin, 21 août 2011 - 12:49 .


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da3 needs a new graphic engine, by 2013 anything less than witcher's 2 graphic level will be outdated

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Prince_12 wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...
What is that suppose to mean? I thought BioWare will not bring back Hawke and The Warden.


Someone clearly hasn't been following what the devs have said....

Not everyone would look into dev diary everyday to check for latest update. If you don't feel like answering my question, please don't.

Prince_12 wrote...

You mean Claudia Black is back as Morrigan or someone else with different personality? And who is this Warden you are talking about? My Maverick Cousland lives happily with Morrigan beyond the portal and my Amber Cousland is resting eternally. 



*facepalm*

Perhaps you don't undertand my meaning so allow me to make it very very clear to you. My warden story is over. There is no such thing as the warden in future DA. Apparently, this warden is not mine. So, who is this warden?

Prince_12 wrote...

I'm done with Hawke story. Why should I settle for more broken cliff hanging and missing person like Hawke. He is not my character.


And you expect us to care? And if you're done with Hawke's story then don'y buy the DLCs or what they offer and stay silent while some of us enjoy the story with our Hawke.

Nope. I don't give a damn care to what you expect. So how about you enjoy your Hawke and stay silent?

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 21 août 2011 - 04:12 .


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Thank you OP
this really got my hopes up for DA series