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[yaw]

 In Witch Hunt, I'm confused to why you're given the option to ask her why she "betray"ed you, when... she never did?
Also, why it's possible to tell Dog at the start that when you find her, you'll "make her pay"... pay for what, exactly?

Morrigan never promises, at Flemeth's hut or at any point before the Final Battle, that she's going to stay till the end. She's only there because her mother wanted you to take her along, and if she leaves before the battle, it's only her mother she's breaking a promise to.
So her leaving on the eve of battle isn't a betrayal. 

She also never does anything she says won't do. Or does anything she doesn't clearly mention she's going to do. She tells you she will go once the Archdemon is dead, and has you understand and accept this. She doesn't force you into anything. And while she won't explain her plan for the baby, you don't get any evidence to suggest she's done or is going to do anything with it that is in any way a betrayal.

So I don't understand why this dialouge option is given, unless I missed something?

The only dickish thing she does, I suppose, is keeping from you the whole time her true reason for tagging along. But that's still not a betrayal. And she gives you the choice not to help help anyway.

[Corker]

I never felt like Morrigan betrayed me, either, but IIRC fan response in the forums indicated many people did. (Particularly, maybe, those whose PCs romanced her and had to watch her leave.) I wouldn't use that exact word, but "Why did you disappoint me?" or "Why couldn't you do what I wanted you to?" don't quite have enough "oomph" to capture the emotions that were being expressed.

[Bitterfoam]

Assuming the Warden builds either a romantic or friendly relationship with Morrigan, then her not divulging the true reason she's there - fun with impregnation to make the old god baby - then that would be a betrayal of trust between them.

I'm not sure if that's what the dialogue relates to, per se, but there it is.

[Mike3207]

Flemeth makes a clear point of telling Morrigan that she needs to join the Warden's party to end the Blight and destroy the Archdemon. The second is never clearly stated, but it seems to me it's clearly understood.The Warden most likely did consider it a betrayal because she left before the Archdemon was destroyed.

[Last Darkness]

Its there to give people the closure they wanted with her.
I personaly know a good number of people who HATE her and loved when they gutted her in that DLC.

My Warden loved her and they kissed and skipped off through the Arlathan. Though.

[Carolinne-k]

In my opinion it's not a betrayal, she did what she had to do, and then she left.
She promissed something to her mother but than she was betrayed. Considering this, with Flemeth dead she wouldn't have the "obligation" to continue in the party.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Morrigan's actions can be considered a betrayal of some form, depending on alot of things. If you refused her ritual, she abandons you on the even of the final battle when you need her most. And even if you do the DR, the fact that she was possibly using you the whole time, depending on how your Warden viewed her, could be seen as betrayal.

It's really up to the individual player to decide their own opinions of Morrigans actions and plans.

[LT123]

Maybe because she knew how the Archdemon has to be killed and didn't tell the Warden? I think you get the chance to call her out on that during the ritual conversation, though.

[Carolinne-k]

Maybe the Warden's friendship is so important that she dont want to see her friend dying ^^

Modifié par Carolinne-k, 26 août 2011 - 10:43 .

[Zjarcal]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

It's really up to the individual player to decide their own opinions of Morrigans actions and plans.

I agree. The only issue is how that line is the only way to get some extra insight in that converation, including stuff that should also be available to those who never felt betrayed.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I didnt see what she did as a betrayal, but it is a valid perception and it's good that they gave us the option to voice it.

[Abispa]

"Hey? You wanna kill my mom the high dragon and steal her book for me? I'd be really happy if you did!"

She gets all teary eyed, thanks the warden, calls her a "sister," and apologizes for being an ice queen most of the time. Awww, she has a heart of gold after all.

Next mission she chews out my elven warden for NOT allowing a Tevinter mage slaughter her FATHER and childhood friends to get some cool new super powers.

And then she throws a fit that I won't order Loghain to impregnate her and leaves in a huff. Oh, yeah, I ENJOYED my "official" ending to Witch Hunt.

Don't cry. If Leliana and Flemeth can come back from the dead, I'm sure Morrigan can.

I did make ONE male Cousland warden stupid enough to go with her through the mirror. Awww, true love is SO beautiful! *Sniffle.*

Once on the other side she murders him and feasts on his corpse. Then she performs a blood magic ritual and sacrifices the OGB to steal his powers. She awaits the chance to become a boss character in DA2 DLC or expansion, or DA3.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

[GSSAGE7]

If you ask Morrigan, she effectively tells you "I didn't betray you. I saved your life, and I told you I would leave."
So yeah, Morrigan agrees with you.

[Spideywulf]

Ya,i didnt feel that at all. Also,I chose to have Alistar do the ritual with Morrigan but during the Witch Hunt she says I refused her.
May have to go back and play it agian without using an import from Awakening!

[Admixt]

I didn't find it a betrayal really. My Warden had 100 approval rating with her, so the Witch Hunt apologies and genuine well wishes and the fact she acknowledges the friendship was enough closure for me.