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[Persephone]

alex90c wrote...

Pwnsaur wrote...

Persephone wrote...

If you are done spouting venom, could we get back to discussing the game itself?

Yes, people have different priorities. Shocking, I know. Some people like what others dislike. It's an easy thing to grasp. Or so one might think.

Way to completely ignore my argument. I wasn't commenting on how you have different priorities, I was challenging your flawed perspective. Your rebuttal was that you can't acknowledge said argument because you don't deem the subject as being worthy. Not a valid response, unfortunately. It's a way of saying 'I have no counter-point.' You yourself admit to liking NPC dialogue, so 'liking what others dislike' is also a fallacious argument. You have no legs to stand-on and yet you refuse to admit that you're wrong. NPC interaction in DA2 was 99% marked or quest-related. Previous to that, it was not. The fact remains.

chill THE F*CK OUT

seriously

i hate DA2 as much as the next guy/girl but pretty much going "stfu b*tch" when perse says anything is just ...

....lame.

I never thought I'd see the day when you would leap to my defense, good ser. (And I'm not being sarcastic, I swear) I know we are polar opposites when it comes to DAII (Which is just a frigging game at the end of the day), but I sincerely appreciate you for speaking up for me. :happy:

[Pwnsaur]

IanPolaris wrote...

I know this might sound odd coming from me, but I think you'd attract more flies with honey than vinegar.  In short, just because you basically agreed with that review (as did I and said so) doesn't mean you should take their style of conversation to the boards and expect anything other than a hostile response even by those that agree with you.

I hope you noted the conversation I had with another poster who I've disagreed with quite openly on many threads.  It was civil.  You might want to take this to heard.  Again just saying.

-Polaris

Honestly, I don't really care if people attack me or don't like me. I am fully aware that I am surrounded by double-digit IQ morons wherever I go. I could take the politically-correct route and strip my statements of any offensive and/or controversial words or phrases but I don't care to. It's interesting that we are all supposed to keep our mouths shut while half our population are borderline intellectually functioning and ruining everything. I don't care man. Hahaha. Look around.. They're ****ing everywhere! Having kids when they can't keep a job or graduate from high-school. Voting for politicians based on looks and willful ignorance. Barely having the reading comprehension and English capability to write and speak in their native tongue. I really do hate them. And my disgust cannot be contained.

Modifié par Pwnsaur, 20 août 2011 - 07:14 .

[Pwnsaur]

alex90c wrote...

chill THE F*CK OUT

seriously

i hate DA2 as much as the next guy/girl but pretty much going "stfu b*tch" when perse says anything is just ...

....lame.

Blow me. If she was able to competently form a logical argument than I wouldn't have exposed her. Additionally, she attacked me first. Or didn't you care to mention that?

[Uccio]

Pwnsaur wrote...

Here is a link to a guy who reviewed DA2 and it captures my thoughts exactly. Additionally, it's absolutely hilarious. Enjoy!




BEWARE! IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED OR CAN'T HANDLE EXTREME ANGER DO NOT WATCH.

This guy knows how to express rpg fans feelings. I concur.  

[IanPolaris]

Pwnsaur wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

I know this might sound odd coming from me, but I think you'd attract more flies with honey than vinegar.  In short, just because you basically agreed with that review (as did I and said so) doesn't mean you should take their style of conversation to the boards and expect anything other than a hostile response even by those that agree with you.

I hope you noted the conversation I had with another poster who I've disagreed with quite openly on many threads.  It was civil.  You might want to take this to heard.  Again just saying.

-Polaris

Honestly, I don't really care if people attack me or don't like me. I am fully aware that I am surrounded by double-digit IQ morons wherever I go. I could take the politically-correct route and strip my statements of any offensive and/or controversial words or phrases but I don't care to. It's interesting that we are all supposed to keep our mouths shut while half our population are borderline intellectually functioning and ruining everything. I don't care man. Hahaha. Look around.. their ****ing everywhere! Having kids when they can't keep a job or graduate from high-school. Voting for politicians based on looks and willful ignorance. Barely having the reading comprehension and English capability to write and speak in their native tongue. I really do hate them. And my disgust cannot be contained.

I am one of the more outspoken critics of DA2 around.  Just ask the other posters, but there are ways and there are ways.  As a humble suggestion, I'd cut the profanity (masked or not).  It interferes with what you are trying to say and much if it is cogent.....but that doesn't matter if everyone tunes you out.

In short, presentation matters and a little courtesy goes a long way.  If someone is discourteous to you first, that's perhaps another matter, but spewing bile (even when it's justified) is a poor way to convince anyone.

That's all I'm trying to say.

-Polaris

[Persephone]

Pwnsaur wrote...

alex90c wrote...

chill THE F*CK OUT

seriously

i hate DA2 as much as the next guy/girl but pretty much going "stfu b*tch" when perse says anything is just ...

....lame.

Blow me. If she was able to competently form a logical argument than I wouldn't have exposed her.

Exposed me?

Don't choke on that self absorbed arrogance, kiddo.:innocent:

[alex90c]

Persephone wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Pwnsaur wrote...

Persephone wrote...

If you are done spouting venom, could we get back to discussing the game itself?

Yes, people have different priorities. Shocking, I know. Some people like what others dislike. It's an easy thing to grasp. Or so one might think.

Way to completely ignore my argument. I wasn't commenting on how you have different priorities, I was challenging your flawed perspective. Your rebuttal was that you can't acknowledge said argument because you don't deem the subject as being worthy. Not a valid response, unfortunately. It's a way of saying 'I have no counter-point.' You yourself admit to liking NPC dialogue, so 'liking what others dislike' is also a fallacious argument. You have no legs to stand-on and yet you refuse to admit that you're wrong. NPC interaction in DA2 was 99% marked or quest-related. Previous to that, it was not. The fact remains.

chill THE F*CK OUT

seriously

i hate DA2 as much as the next guy/girl but pretty much going "stfu b*tch" when perse says anything is just ...

....lame.

I never thought I'd see the day when you would leap to my defense, good ser. (And I'm not being sarcastic, I swear) I know we are polar opposites when it comes to DAII (Which is just a frigging game at the end of the day), but I sincerely appreciate you for speaking up for me. :happy:

Well, as unconstructive as I am you may have noticed that I stick to bashing the game rather than individuals (as in, directly insulting them, I'm not afraid to call bullsh*t). I think calling people on here morons or w/e, even if they can be really irritating you is just out of order, and whenever the temptation hits me I'll just step back, do something else to calm down. 

Then of course soon enough I return to being a keyboard warrior.

Blow me. If she was able to competently form a logical argument than I
wouldn't have exposed her. Additionally, she attacked me first. Or
didn't you care to mention that?

go cry somewhere else pls k thx

Modifié par alex90c, 20 août 2011 - 07:16 .

[IanPolaris]

Filament wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

I know this might sound odd coming from me, but I think you'd attract more flies with honey than vinegar.

You got that right.

If you can't say something nice...... (I think you know the rest)

-Polaris

[Pwnsaur]

Persephone wrote...

Exposed me?

Don't choke on that self absorbed arrogance, kiddo.:innocent:

I'm 26 with an MA but thanks for the condescending 'kiddo.'

And yes, I exposed you for having no counter-point to my argument. You copped-out and avoided the subject by saying it wasn't your 'priority.' Again, I must say, one of the weakest and poorly thought out arguments I have heard in a while. And given my work, I hear a lot.

[Persephone]

alex90c wrote...

Well, as unconstructive as I am you may have noticed that I stick to bashing the game rather than individuals (as in, directly insulting them, I'm not afraid to call bullsh*t). I think calling people on here morons or w/e, even if they can be really irritating you is just out of order, and whenever the temptation hits me I'll just step back, do something else to calm down. 

Then of course soon enough I return to being a keyboard warrior.

:devil::devil:

While I'm not at all into bashing anything for months, I do agree with you there. (OMG, has hell frozen over yet?)

[Cutlass Jack]

Pwnsaur wrote...

Additionally, she attacked me first. Or didn't you care to mention that?

I know right? There you were innocently telling everyone to burn in hell when out of nowhere she attacked you.

The nerve of some people.

[cmessaz]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Pwnsaur wrote...

Additionally, she attacked me first. Or didn't you care to mention that?

I know right? There you were innocently telling everyone to burn in hell when out of nowhere she attacked you.

The nerve of some people.

Yeah the persons posts have been so polite to people who disagree! How dare you Perse!!! *shakes fist* 

Modifié par cmessaz, 20 août 2011 - 07:22 .

[Persephone]

Pwnsaur wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Exposed me?

Don't choke on that self absorbed arrogance, kiddo.:innocent:

I'm 26 with an MA but thanks for the condescending 'kiddo.'

And yes, I exposed you for having no counter-point to my argument. You copped-out and avoided the subject by saying it wasn't your 'priority.' Again, I must say, one of the weakest and poorly thought out arguments I have heard in a while. And given my work, I hear a lot.

Awww, 26? Cute.

Dearie, given your "arguments", I simply do not bother. Take a hint from Polaris, he and I actually had a civil, productive discussion. Like adults, you know? Adults who disagree when it comes to DAII, yet do not turn it into a personal swearing fest like a toddler throwing a tantrum.

[Pwnsaur]

IanPolaris wrote...

I am one of the more outspoken critics of DA2 around.  Just ask the other posters, but there are ways and there are ways.  As a humble suggestion, I'd cut the profanity (masked or not).  It interferes with what you are trying to say and much if it is cogent.....but that doesn't matter if everyone tunes you out.

In short, presentation matters and a little courtesy goes a long way.  If someone is discourteous to you first, that's perhaps another matter, but spewing bile (even when it's justified) is a poor way to convince anyone.

That's all I'm trying to say.

-Polaris

Thanks for the wisdom, but it isn't necessary. I am a writer in my daily job, and I have to trim any semblance of offensiveness from most of what I write. On public forums, I enjoy my freedom. Additionally, I am an outspoken critic of censorship (something that I've written about at length.) I understand that it can distract some minds away from my underlying theme, but those people are generally the morons I abhor. I understand what you are trying to say, and thank you, for caring to say it. But I am not trying to convince anyone of anything, as I've already found out, you can't teach anything to people who know everything.

[Persephone]

cmessaz wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Pwnsaur wrote...

Additionally, she attacked me first. Or didn't you care to mention that?

I know right? There you were innocently telling everyone to burn in hell when out of nowhere she attacked you.

The nerve of some people.

Yeah his posts have been so polite to people who disagree! How dare you Perse!!! *shakes fist* 

*Backs off into a corner*

You people are all evil.

I like you. (Shamelessly stolen from the brilliant KOP)

[dheer]

Pwnsaur wrote...

dheer wrote...
Most of what you've written has been about how awesome the review was, rambling, telling everyone else they're wrong and swearing. So, no, it has lacked sense in many areas and many of your so called points were void of any real meaning.

Again, I know it upset you but it does apply. Take it from an astronaut/big brother volunteer with a double major of super english and space flight.

All my points have had meaning and reasoning to support them. I have also not 'lacked sense,' otherwise known as being unreasonable. Additionally, telling people they're wrong and swearing is not being 'inane.' You can grasp tightly to that pillar of self-righteousness, but I have all but chipped it away.

You know Chipy, you're all puffed up and full o' bluster. My cousin Mortimer VonTaintstain was like that as well. The way he talked, you'd think he thought he was the most intelligent and wise person to ever grace the planet. I always figured it was his way of making up for spending so much time in the bathroom on account of his chron's disease. After all the times he'd been show he was wrong, he always had to get the last word in. It would have been better to get first step out of there before he was beaten and ended up telling inane stories about how he always made sense. Anyway, to make a long story short, he ended up walking around wearing an ass for a hat. Oddest thing, really.

[Pwnsaur]

Persephone wrote...

Awww, 26? Cute.

Dearie, given your "arguments", I simply do not bother. Take a hint from Polaris, he and I actually had a civil, productive discussion. Like adults, you know? Adults who disagree when it comes to DAII, yet do not turn it into a personal swearing fest like a toddler throwing a tantrum.

More ad-hominem. Cute. You have lost this argument about 3 times now by my count.

[IanPolaris]

Pwnsaur wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

I am one of the more outspoken critics of DA2 around.  Just ask the other posters, but there are ways and there are ways.  As a humble suggestion, I'd cut the profanity (masked or not).  It interferes with what you are trying to say and much if it is cogent.....but that doesn't matter if everyone tunes you out.

In short, presentation matters and a little courtesy goes a long way.  If someone is discourteous to you first, that's perhaps another matter, but spewing bile (even when it's justified) is a poor way to convince anyone.

That's all I'm trying to say.

-Polaris

Thanks for the wisdom, but it isn't necessary. I am a writer in my daily job, and I have to trim any semblance of offensiveness from most of what I write. On public forums, I enjoy my freedom. Additionally, I am an outspoken critic of censorship (something that I've written about at length.) I understand that it can distract some minds away from my underlying theme, but those people are generally the morons I abhor. I understand what you are trying to say, and thank you, for caring to say it. But I am not trying to convince anyone of anything, as I've already found out, you can't teach anything to people who know everything.

Well, to each their own I guess.  I personally don't consider using polite words to be censorship as long as the meaning is there, but if you've made up your mind, we'll see where that goes.  I just don't think it will go very well and that would be a shame.  Enough.  I'm out on this topic.  Do what you will (but don't expect the mods to agree to that!)

-Polaris

[TEWR]

Then of course soon enough I return to being a keyboard warrior.

I read that as "keyblade warrior".

now I want to play Kingdom Hearts again.

[alex90c]

Persephone wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Well, as unconstructive as I am you may have noticed that I stick to bashing the game rather than individuals (as in, directly insulting them, I'm not afraid to call bullsh*t). I think calling people on here morons or w/e, even if they can be really irritating you is just out of order, and whenever the temptation hits me I'll just step back, do something else to calm down. 

Then of course soon enough I return to being a keyboard warrior.

:devil::devil:

While I'm not at all into bashing anything for months, I do agree with you there. (OMG, has hell frozen over yet?)

I think I'm far too ingrained in my ways to ever change them at this point. You can't criticise me for not being open about it though, I quite openly admit my posts are vitriolic, whereas other people would probably say they're "just criticising the game"

More ad-hominem. Cute. You have lost this argument about 3 times now by my count.

HEY PERSE YOURE AN IDIOT A MORON A DIRTY DA2 LOVER I HATE YOU SO MUCH YOU DIRTY LITTLE SKET

...

hey man why you using ad hominems against me?????

Modifié par alex90c, 20 août 2011 - 07:26 .

[Pwnsaur]

dheer wrote...
You know Chipy, you're all puffed up and full o' bluster. My cousin Mortimer VonTaintstain was like that as well. The way he talked, you'd think he thought he was the most intelligent and wise person to ever grace the planet. I always figured it was his way of making up for spending so much time in the bathroom on account of his chron's disease. After all the times he'd been show he was wrong, he always had to get the last word in. It would have been better to get first step out of there before he was beaten and ended up telling inane stories about how he always made sense. Anyway, to make a long story short, he ended up walking around wearing an ass for a hat. Oddest thing, really.

Cool straw-man argument... Haven't seen one of those since undergrad... good memories...

[KnightofPhoenix]

Persephone wrote...

*Backs off into a corner*

You people are all evil.

I like you. (Shamelessly stolen from the brilliant KOP)

I believe I said "nasty"



About the review. It's funny and I agree with a lot of what he is trying to say, if we look beyond the hyperbole that is there for comedic effect.

[Persephone]

Pwnsaur wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Awww, 26? Cute.

Dearie, given your "arguments", I simply do not bother. Take a hint from Polaris, he and I actually had a civil, productive discussion. Like adults, you know? Adults who disagree when it comes to DAII, yet do not turn it into a personal swearing fest like a toddler throwing a tantrum.

More ad-hominem. Cute. You have lost this argument about 3 times now by my count.

I was not aware of this being a contest, nor do I "count" such things. That's something children do.

And you complaining about ad-hominem is the icing on the cake. Well, it's amusing at least.

[Persephone]

alex90c wrote...

Persephone wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Well, as unconstructive as I am you may have noticed that I stick to bashing the game rather than individuals (as in, directly insulting them, I'm not afraid to call bullsh*t). I think calling people on here morons or w/e, even if they can be really irritating you is just out of order, and whenever the temptation hits me I'll just step back, do something else to calm down. 

Then of course soon enough I return to being a keyboard warrior.

:devil::devil:

While I'm not at all into bashing anything for months, I do agree with you there. (OMG, has hell frozen over yet?)

I think I'm far too ingrained in my ways to ever change them at this point. You can't criticise me for not being open about it though, I quite openly admit my posts are vitriolic, whereas other people would probably say they're "just criticising the game"

More ad-hominem. Cute. You have lost this argument about 3 times now by my count.

HEY PERSE YOURE AN IDIOT A MORON A DIRTY DA2 LOVER I HATE YOU SO MUCH YOU DIRTY LITTLE SKET

...

hey man why you using ad hominems against me?????

Checkmate. Well played, Messere, well played!!