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[Brewski789]

ok so here's the story so far:
I came back t0 DA:O to make a game i wanna continue in DA2
I have a female human noble warrior

At the landsmeet, I recruited Logain and conviced Anora and (hardened) alistar to marry
We meet at Redcliffe...Logain sleeps with Morrigan (cuz im female)...We get the the archdemon, kill it and......

WTF-NO DIALOGUE, MY WARDEN JUST RUNS IN AND KILLS THE THING "AND SURVIVES!!!!!"

After the battle everyone seems to think "I" did the ritual with Morrigan (IM F***IN FEMALE)
In fact, when i talk to Logain he seems just as confused about how i survived as everyone else

I checked the journal and it indeed says that "Loghain performed a ritual with Morrigan" but then "the final battle" journal entry says I killed the archdemon

SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!

Ive tried redoing the ending from before the landsmeet like 5 times and same thing, no dialogue

Note:
I have DA Ultimate edition with the latest patch
I hav tried this on another computer-same result

Also i hav 2 mods installed:
Camp storage chest
Extra Dog Slot
I tried it with both of these enabled and disabled-still nothing

Modifié par Brewski606, 21 août 2011 - 08:30 .

[DragonRacer13]

As far as I am aware, as long as the Dark Ritual is performed (no matter who actually does the nasty with Morrigan), the Warden always slays the Archdemon. Loghain only rides the dragon if no ritual is performed and your Warden doesn't talk him out of it (which leads to the Warden going down in a blaze of glory instead).

[Brewski789]

WOW
Really?
Did bioware get lazy and decide it was to difficult to write lines for the other character's if they did it?

but wait, i had thought i got it to work with alistair?

[theskymoves]

I like to let Alistair have the dragon ride after he does the Ritual (as a nice fun little "Thank you!" for his valiant self-sacrifice with Morrigan), but the Warden always gets the final blow if the Ritual happened.

edited to add that I think whichever Warden is most proximitous to the Archdemon gets the ride, and who makes the killing blow is determined by whether the Ritual happened or no.

edited again to ask OP why having Loghain be the one to kill the Archdemon matters; even if it were possible under the circumstances, the end result would be the same: Ritual performed, Wardens live.

~tsm

Modifié par theskymoves, 20 août 2011 - 08:05 .

[Corker]

Doesn't have to be a Warden who gets the dragon ride on the "not quite dead yet" blow; I've had Zevran get it.

But yeah, if the DR has been performed, the Warden will charge forward without any ado after the dragon ride and kill it. Morrigan's magic attracts the soul even if the Warden who didn't sleep with her does the killing.

[Brewski789]

Just to make it clear:
I was talking bout the final blow not the "Dragon ride"
as well as the dialogue afterward

[errant_knight]

There is only dialogue if there's a choice to be made because someone is goiing to bite the big one. With the ritual done, the archdemon can be slain without further ado, and because you're the hero....

If you want dialogue about who's going to do it, you have to let someone die.

[Weiser_Cain]

Please do NOT put spoilers in your titles

[Last Darkness]

Brewski606 wrote...

ok so here's the story so far:
I came back t0 DA:O to make a game i wanna continue in DA2
I have a female human noble warrior

At the landsmeet, I recruited Logain and conviced Anora and (hardened) alistar to marry
We meet at Redcliffe...Logain sleeps with Morrigan (cuz im female)...We get the the archdemon, kill it and......

WTF-NO DIALOGUE, MY WARDEN JUST RUNS IN AND KILLS THE THING "AND SURVIVES!!!!!"

After the battle everyone seems to think "I" did the ritual with Morrigan (IM F***IN FEMALE)
In fact, when i talk to Logain he seems just as confused about how i survived as everyone else

I checked the journal and it indeed says that "Loghain performed a ritual with Morrigan" but then "the final battle" journal entry says I killed the archdemon

SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!

Ive tried redoing the ending from before the landsmeet like 5 times and same thing, no dialogue

Note:
I have DA Ultimate edition with the latest patch
I hav tried this on another computer-same result

Also i hav 2 mods installed:
Camp storage chest
Extra Dog Slot
I tried it with both of these enabled and disabled-still nothing

Just to make sure...
Are you confusing which Warden takes the Ultimate Sacrifice or which one gets the final blow and (If melee) the sweet death animation?

There is no dialog at the end ever unless one of you has to deicide who going to get the Ultimate Sacrifice ending (And if your female and with Alistair and romanced him he wont let you make that choice and will always die)


So you know though.
If anyone does the Dark Ritual, there will be no dialog and its safe to kill Urthemiel as both Wardens will live and the soul of the Dragon god will move into the developing child in Morrigans womb.
If you dont do the Dark Ritual a Warden HAS to die to kill the Archdemon. (If you kill Loghain and Alistair this means it has to be you)

Of note though is, if you kill your Warden you cant Import into Awakening and the DLC leading into Dragon Age 2 but you can import into Dragon age 2.
If you import your DEAD Warden into Awakening it removes the ultimate sacrifice and forces you to have slept with Morrigan instead.


From what youve said I dont see the problem though. Loghain did do the Dark Ritual and your Warden did kill the Archdemon. Thats how its supposed to work if thats what actualy happend.
Its like me being confused why I baught milk at the store when I needed to buy milk at the store?

Modifié par Last Darkness, 21 août 2011 - 03:04 .

[Brewski789]

I dont know y there is so much confusion. I hav been more that clear- (one more time then)

I was wondering why (even though LOGHAIN did the ritual) the "CUTSCENE" of the final blow shows ME< THE WARDEN > NOT LOGHAIN
also that DURING THE EPILOGUE Anora announced that "I" killed the archdemon and when i talked to LOGHAIN he didnt seem to know about the ritual at all even though he sleep with morrigan

PS
I changed the topic name to secret character but i didnt think it'd matter since this is a spoiler section anyway

[theskymoves]

Brewski606 wrote...

I dont know y there is so much confusion. I hav been more that clear- (one more time then)

I was wondering why (even though LOGHAIN did the ritual) the "CUTSCENE" of the final blow shows ME< THE WARDEN > NOT LOGHAIN

The reason the cutscene shows YOU<THE WARDEN is because if the Ritual happens, The Warden will always make the final blow to kill the Archdemon. Always. Always. Always. If you want someone else (Loghain or Alistair) to make the final blow, you have to refuse the Ritual. And let Loghain, or  Alistair die.

also that DURING THE EPILOGUE Anora announced that "I" killed the archdemon

But your Warden did kill the Archdemon.

and when i talked to LOGHAIN he didnt seem to know about the ritual at all even though he sleep with morrigan

There are other instances of the end game dialogues being bugged. I've had games where Alistair professed to not know the reason for the Ritual (OGB), even though The Warden had very clearly explained it and he'd even asked Morrigan about the OGB. Heck, I had one game where he knew (at Redcliffe), didn't know (at Denerim City Gates) and knew again (post-coronation). Perhaps someone more expert than I will happen along and clarify whether there are any similar known issues with Loghain's dialogue.

~tsm

Modifié par theskymoves, 21 août 2011 - 09:51 .

[galelabriel]

Ritual performed = warden pc always kills archie during scene

No ritual performed = warden pc, alistair, or loghain can be involved in the death scene (depending on certain choices made during the game)

Its as simple as that.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Doing the dark ritual ensures your Warden will make the "killing blow".

Also, the ritual is such that it does not matter who did it. The only thing that matters is that it is performed. Loghain, just because he performed the ritual, does not need to be the one to land the killing blow. Once it is performed, anyone can, the AD's soul will automatically look for Morrigan's kid's "beacon" and find it, regardless of who landed the last hit.

So I'm not sure what the problem is. If the ritual is performed, there is not really any need for an extensive scene, since now anyone can theorhetically kill the AD. For story and game purposes, the Warden gets the honor if the have managed to outwit death with the DR.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

No matter who does the ritual with Morrigan, so long as SOMEONE DOES, the PC Warden slays the Archdemon and there is no dialogue with anyone else before you run in to strike the killing blow.

If you want dialogue with Loghain or Alistair or you don't want to kill the archdemon yourself, you MUST NOT perform the Dark Ritual.

[MKDAWUSS]

They should have had the dialogue there if the Warden did the DR - how were the other Wardens going to know that the DR was done?

[thats1evildude]

I think the OP believes that the Warden who performs the ritual has to be the one who kills the Archdemon.

It makes no difference who impregnates Morrigan, OP. All that matter is whether the ritual is done.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 23 août 2011 - 11:31 .

[Gotholhorakh]

Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Please do NOT put spoilers in your titles

Its a spoiler secton of the forums duh.so you have to be careful more

Yes. So is the sticky he linked to.

The sticky is about putting spoilers in titles in (this) spoilers-warned area of the forum, which you'd know if you read more carefully, or more to the point, read the stickies before posting. So really, you probably have to be careful more, too. 

Apologies for the days-old bump, but it had to be said.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 04 septembre 2011 - 10:42 .