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Seriously Bioware, I thought female Turians were guaranteed...


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If you would read my copy pasta, you would know this.

"Turians have 27 citizenship tiers, beginning with civilians (client races and children)."

To the Turians, civilians are children, and volus.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 21 août 2011 - 07:17 .


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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

I'm sure turians have hardware stores,and farms that need to be ran,and manufacturing that needs to be done.


All done by military-trained turians. And possibly by honourary volus citizens.

Heck, when you put it like that, turian society isn't all that different from Mandalorian society.

Modifié par leonia42, 21 août 2011 - 07:18 .


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So what they can have firearms and bombs in house?

Once they left military service, which they can according to Garrus and not go rogue, they're no longer in military.

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Mesina2 wrote...

So what they can have firearms and bombs in house?

Once they left military service, which they can according to Garrus and not go rogue, they're no longer in military.


Not military, but not civilians either. They are in one of the citizen tiers. 

And yes they can have firearms, but if had to hazard a guess the bombs are only for wartime purposes, but you never know with the turians.

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Mesina2 wrote...

So what they can have firearms and bombs in house?

Once they left military service, which they can according to Garrus and not go rogue, they're no longer in military.


If they are 30+ years old, sure, but if they intend to live on turian world (Palaven or its colonies) they may still be expected to engage in public service and/or be part of the "reserves" in a catastrophe situation.. like a Reaper War.

Garrus is travelling with Shepard, he's not tied down to living on a turian world any more so he can get away with whatever he wants. It might be a bit of an issue later, however, when the Hierarchy needs all of its forces and they may take issue with him going rogue.

Anyway, the quote "There is no such thing as a turian civilian" comes from General Partinax when he makes a statement about the futility of organised rebels standing up to the Hierarchy. It's a reminder that every turian is responsible for his/her actions and is obligated to follow the Hierarchy law or face the consequences for refusal. Again, check out the Taetrus war stories, it gives a lot of insight into turian culture and how the military works.

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leonia42 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

So what they can have firearms and bombs in house?

Once they left military service, which they can according to Garrus and not go rogue, they're no longer in military.


If they are 30+ years old, sure, but if they intend to live on turian world (Palaven or its colonies) they may still be expected to engage in public service and/or be part of the "reserves" in a catastrophe situation.. like a Reaper War.

Garrus is travelling with Shepard, he's not tied down to living on a turian world any more so he can get away with whatever he wants. It might be a bit of an issue later, however, when the Hierarchy needs all of its forces and they may take issue with him going rogue.

Anyway, the quote "There is no such thing as a turian civilian" comes from General Partinax when he makes a statement about the fuility of organised rebels standing up to the Hierarchy. It's a reminder that every turian is responsible for his actions and is obligated to follow the Hierarchy law or face the consequences for refusal. Again, check out the Taetrus war stories, it gives a lot of insight into turian culture and how the military works.


I don't think it quite works like that. 

Then again, I don't think the turians ever faced complete destruction before.

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Probably not, it's a chance for things to get really, really interesting. And who knows, maybe not all of the rebels were put down, I seem to recall the original news about Palaven's moon implying that terrorist had attacked and not the Reapers.

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I guess I forget to say I dropped Turian civilian statement.


As for reserves?
My country doesn't require military service for almost a decade, but I still had to sign up for reserves like every other male.

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Srsly, if we could see quarian males in ME2, why no Turian females? they must spend at least some of the time outside of space kitchens.

I can understand lackof Salarian females (but it is still lame not to make slightly different model for one game) because of their culture, but lack of female turians is kinda lazy. We should see them in a cameo, like crowd of turians watching the sky of Palaven in dread, or sth.

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Mesina2 wrote...

I guess I forget to say I dropped Turian civilian statement.


As for reserves?
My country doesn't require military service for almost a decade, but I still had to sign up for reserves like every other male.


I think it says something though that the families of turians are given pamphlets on how to make bombs though. In my country during the cold war, we were given pamphlets on how to hide under desks.

Combine that with legal firarms, compulsary military training to gain citizenship (reminds me of starship troopers) I don't see how humanity could have won the contact war.

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Mesina2 wrote...

I guess I forget to say I dropped Turian civilian statement.


As for reserves?
My country doesn't require military service for almost a decade, but I still had to sign up for reserves like every other male.


And what happens when your country goes to war and needs more manpower?

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A soldier doesn't stop being a soldier because he's not actively in the military.

It's like saying a guitarist stops being a guitarist just because he starts playing the piano instead. The training, skill and affinity is still there, even if they do not hone it as much as when they were only playing the guitar.

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leonia42 wrote...

Anyway, the quote "There is no such thing as a turian civilian" comes from General Partinax when he makes a statement about the futility of organised rebels standing up to the Hierarchy. It's a reminder that every turian is responsible for his/her actions and is obligated to follow the Hierarchy law or face the consequences for refusal. Again, check out the Taetrus war stories, it gives a lot of insight into turian culture and how the military works.


Well during peace times I'm pretty sure many Turians ain't in military.


During war, everything can happen.


leonia42 wrote...

And what happens when your country goes to war and needs more manpower?


Like I said, during war everything can happen.

I'm talking during peace time.
And even during war there can be non-combatants.

Just with Turians there would be less then with other species, but there still would be some for whatever reason.

Modifié par Mesina2, 21 août 2011 - 07:36 .


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Well, I know why we won't be seeing any females from alien species: we don't have anything to do inside a kitchen.

Jk, lol. I really hope to see female subjects from other species. Female turians were seen on ME: Evolution, but what I really want to see is a salarian female. They are so rare that I want to see one. On the contrary, do you guys imagine a female Reaper? That would be creepy.

Edit: :ph34r:'d. :bandit:

Modifié par el master pr, 21 août 2011 - 07:35 .


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Sure they are, they're just not shooting people during peace time. There's more to the military than uniforms and drills.

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leonia42 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

I guess I forget to say I dropped Turian civilian statement.


As for reserves?
My country doesn't require military service for almost a decade, but I still had to sign up for reserves like every other male.


And what happens when your country goes to war and needs more manpower?


What happens when your country goes to hell, and there is no miltary to ask for said manpower? 

Not that I am disagreeing with you, but we have to remember the situation. Palaven is decimated, the military and civilians that evacuated are taking refuge on their moon. I am sure the turians still on palaven will fight, they are trained after all, but there is no central command, and there will be turian indoctrinated, husks, and GIANT ROBOTS smashing through the streets.

There is a limit to discipline.

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Understandable, Nashiktal, I look forward to seeing how they deal with the situation, it's certainly something they will have to adjust to. All of that previous training and discipline might become quite useful though, imagine the Palaven survival rate in comparison to Earth.

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there has to be at least 2 female turians if Garrus' dying mother comes into play since his sister is taking care of her

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leonia42 wrote...

Sure they are, they're just not shooting people during peace time. There's more to the military than uniforms and drills.


*sigh*

If you ain't doing military services anymore, you ain't in military anymore.

I'm not saying you can't return or be forced by law to return and they you would be in military, but in the mean time if you ain't doing any military service you ain't in military.

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Mesina2 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Sure they are, they're just not shooting people during peace time. There's more to the military than uniforms and drills.


*sigh*

If you ain't doing military services anymore, you ain't in military anymore.

I'm not saying you can't return or be forced by law to return and they you would be in military, but in the mean time if you ain't doing any military service you ain't in military.

*sigh*

That makes too much sense.:bandit:

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I see some people don't understand how military life or the difference between active duty and reserves works but to each their own. I'm not even sure what the debate is about any more, can we get back to talking about female turians?

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Sure they are, they're just not shooting people during peace time. There's more to the military than uniforms and drills.


*sigh*

If you ain't doing military services anymore, you ain't in military anymore.

I'm not saying you can't return or be forced by law to return and they you would be in military, but in the mean time if you ain't doing any military service you ain't in military.

*sigh*

That makes too much sense.:bandit:


To be fair, im sure the turians have a saying somewhere about never not being a soldier. :D

I still can't get over the bomb pamphlets.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 21 août 2011 - 07:46 .


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Not seeing female Turians everywhere in the galaxy is like not seeing male quarians when we visit a quarian ship, so not seeing them on their own home world is terrible. It wont ruin the game for those that made that question, but it would certainly make it a better experience, this is supposed to be a hybrid RPG after all.

Modifié par Sharn01, 21 août 2011 - 07:56 .


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Come on, BioWare. A female turian can't be that hard to do.

Actually, yes, it can. As soon as someone hear/see this female alien, they're going to jump on here and complain.

"OMFGFMG dat female turian sounds WRONG!" 
"Why does the female salarian look so bad?" 
"why can't I romance the female elcor?!!!?!?"

Bioware probably won't bother. It's simply not worth it... or necessary.

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If they don't show female turians, the least they can do is make a gay joke. I'm serious here.