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[tmoney420]

[ladyvader]

That is why BW has been so tight lipped on Miranda.

It makes me think she has a major role when it comes to Cerberus.

TIM never truly cared about Shepard. Shepard was nothing but an asset. Assets are used and then tossed aside. Even renegade Shepard is tired of dealing with Cerberus when Liara asks how Shepard is really feeling during their cabin scene together. "I'm tired. Tired of dealing with Cerberus. Tired of the Council ignoring me, tired of my closest friends not believing me."

Shepard goes back to the Alliance. Takes the Normandy her/him. That act is enough to ticked off TIM. Never mind that paragon Shepard blew the collector base up. That ticks off TIM as well.

[PauseforEffect]

There've been a few thoughts by others that Shepard's been installed with reaper tech by Cerberus that is too much of a liability to fall to enemy hands so Cerberus is trying to tie up loose ends.
Other possibilities:
Cerberus is working for the reapers to gain dominance (wouldn't put it past them)
Cerberus has been indoctrinated
Shepard's lost his marbles and he's pulling a Saren & he thinks he's helping but instead is making it worse.
Also, if Miranda's taken to the final fight in the Collector Base, she effectively gives her resignation by refusing to stop Shepard if the Base is blown up. So while she's no longer part of Cerberus, I doubt she can walk away that easily. Not without a gun and a probe with Mordin's help

[ladyvader]

PrimalEden wrote...

There've been a few thoughts by others that Shepard's been installed with reaper tech by Cerberus that is too much of a liability to fall to enemy hands so Cerberus is trying to tie up loose ends.
Other possibilities:
Cerberus is working for the reapers to gain dominance (wouldn't put it past them)
Cerberus has been indoctrinated
Shepard's lost his marbles and he's pulling a Saren & he thinks he's helping but instead is making it worse.
Also, if Miranda's taken to the final fight in the Collector Base, she effectively gives her resignation by refusing to stop Shepard if the Base is blown up. So while she's no longer part of Cerberus, I doubt she can walk away that easily. Not without a gun and a probe with Mordin's help

This is what I think.  TIM will use Oriana against Miranda.  Cerberus does know where she was relocated to. 
Just like I think TIM is going to use Liara against Shepard.  He is keeping an eye on that relastionship too.  

[Omega4RelayResident]

Actually in ME3 you find out "Illusive Man" is actually an agent for the Reapers. Hence the creepy glowing blue eyes... and making it his life's goal to make humanity look bad to the rest of the universe. ME2 was the "Illusive Man" setting Shep up for an actual suicide mission beyond the Omega 4 Relay... and basically trying to get him killed on every single mission he sent him on.

If you are confused as to why the "Illusive Man" resurrected Shep in the first place... allow me to explain

He knew that only Shep can gather the most influential and potentially dangerous individuals that could possibly stop the Reapers without Shepherd... including his old team mates. They were a concern to the Reapers. The new characters such as Grunt a.k.a. "The Perfect Krogan", Mordin Solus a.k.a. "The Einstein of the Time", Samara a.k.a. "Most Powerfull Biotic at the Time" were all obstacles that needed to be cleared out of the way before the Reapers arrive.

Hence... resurrect Shepherd with Reaper tech just like what Illusive Man did in the most recent novel to Gray. Have Shepherd gather up a team of the people that needed to die and send them to their doom beyond the Omega 4 Relay.

Cerberus activities were always aimed in such a way as to destroy the other Alien races faith in the Human race.

Cerberus is actually a Reaper front company... basically. And this is not a spoiler techincally... its up in the confirmed info posting.

Modifié par Omega4RelayResident, 20 août 2011 - 11:23 .

[Quole]

Im starting to hate Mass effect because of cerberus. Seriously, EVERYTHING revolves around cerberus. Its ****ing annoying. At this point I have almost forgotten about the reapers.

[Saaziel]

Cerberus issued this communiqué earlier today , detailing their plan.

[addicted2damassE]

PrimalEden wrote...

There've been a few thoughts by others that Shepard's been installed with reaper tech by Cerberus that is too much of a liability to fall to enemy hands so Cerberus is trying to tie up loose ends.
Other possibilities:
Cerberus is working for the reapers to gain dominance (wouldn't put it past them)
Cerberus has been indoctrinated
Shepard's lost his marbles and he's pulling a Saren & he thinks he's helping but instead is making it worse.
Also, if Miranda's taken to the final fight in the Collector Base, she effectively gives her resignation by refusing to stop Shepard if the Base is blown up. So while she's no longer part of Cerberus, I doubt she can walk away that easily. Not without a gun and a probe with Mordin's help

I agree!

[Omega4RelayResident]

^ROFL @ Saaziel

Modifié par Omega4RelayResident, 21 août 2011 - 12:10 .

[LexieTheT-Rexy]

It's been said in interviews that she serves a very significant role in the third game, and has 'unfinished business' with Shepard (especially if you romance her). I'm sure we won't hear much about her, and will just have to find out through the game, since there will be some conflicts between her Cerberus involvement (or lack there of) and the current stakes of your mission.

[MysticSpace]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...

Actually in ME3 you find out "Illusive Man" is actually an agent for the Reapers. Hence the creepy glowing blue eyes... and making it his life's goal to make humanity look bad to the rest of the universe. ME2 was the "Illusive Man" setting Shep up for an actual suicide mission beyond the Omega 4 Relay... and basically trying to get him killed on every single mission he sent him on.

If you are confused as to why the "Illusive Man" resurrected Shep in the first place... allow me to explain

He knew that only Shep can gather the most influential and potentially dangerous individuals that could possibly stop the Reapers without Shepherd... including his old team mates. They were a concern to the Reapers. The new characters such as Grunt a.k.a. "The Perfect Krogan", Mordin Solus a.k.a. "The Einstein of the Time", Samara a.k.a. "Most Powerfull Biotic at the Time" were all obstacles that needed to be cleared out of the way before the Reapers arrive.

Hence... resurrect Shepherd with Reaper tech just like what Illusive Man did in the most recent novel to Gray. Have Shepherd gather up a team of the people that needed to die and send them to their doom beyond the Omega 4 Relay.

Cerberus activities were always aimed in such a way as to destroy the other Alien races faith in the Human race.

Cerberus is actually a Reaper front company... basically. And this is not a spoiler techincally... its up in the confirmed info posting.

  I'm willing to bet that the reapers wanted the best of the best so that they could indoctrinate or experiment on.  If they could capture and indoctrinate Shepard and her flock, game over.

[CptData]

ladyvader wrote...

That is why BW has been so tight lipped on Miranda.

It makes me think she has a major role when it comes to Cerberus.

TIM never truly cared about Shepard. Shepard was nothing but an asset. Assets are used and then tossed aside. Even renegade Shepard is tired of dealing with Cerberus when Liara asks how Shepard is really feeling during their cabin scene together. "I'm tired. Tired of dealing with Cerberus. Tired of the Council ignoring me, tired of my closest friends not believing me."

Shepard goes back to the Alliance. Takes the Normandy her/him. That act is enough to ticked off TIM. Never mind that paragon Shepard blew the collector base up. That ticks off TIM as well.

Must say I hated that this particular line was the "renegade" option. Seriously, even a paragon!Shepard is tired at some point if the galaxy throws all sh*t at him (her).

Whatever: I wonder what role Miranda will play in ME3, especially since she resigned in ME2 (she needs to be in your squad dealing with the human Reaper).

[vvDRUCILLAvv]

I think Miranda will be busy scraping hemorrhoids off of Harbingers back side.

[CptBomBom00]

Saaziel wrote...

Cerberus issued this communiqué earlier today , detailing their plan.

ROFL:lol:

[Ieldra]

ladyvader wrote...
That is why BW has been so tight lipped on Miranda.

It makes me think she has a major role when it comes to Cerberus.

That's certainly what she should have. *has read the leak* *is very, very skeptical*

CptData wrote...
Must say I hated that this particular line was the "renegade" option. Seriously, even a paragon!Shepard is tired at some point if the galaxy throws all sh*t at him (her).

I don't think we can interpret all lower lines as Renegade and all upper lines as Paragon.

Whatever: I wonder what role Miranda will play in ME3, especially since she resigned in ME2 (she needs to be in your squad dealing with the human Reaper).

Forgive me for being cynical, but very likely this decision will make zero difference.

[CptData]

Yeah, guess so. It's a shame that it doesn't make any difference. Miranda is awesome enough and can do better without Cerberus. I hope she'll pick the right option when it's time in ME3.

About Paragon / Renegade: think everyone knows the "lower right option" is either renegade or "straight forward" while "top left" is always a paragonish or more diplomatic answer for the idealists.

But even an idealist gets tired at some point. I'm not sure if I should tell Liara or Ashley (or in your case, Miranda).

Modifié par CptData, 06 décembre 2011 - 02:34 .

[CptBomBom00]

Hahahhahaha, well I can see how that Reaper tech backfires in ME3, that's going to be great show, I will need to make my self some pop-corn.

[DiebytheSword]

TIM was fairly clear on all this when you did or did not destroy the collector base. It was meant to secure humanity's future, beyond just the Reaper threat. Using my handy dandy Cerberus translation device, I figured that TIM wasn't looking to destroy the reapers, he was looking at them as a source of technology or worse, a means to an end. If he controls the Reapers, the galaxy is his. Oh and by his he means Cerberus', and by Cerberus' he means humanity's.

Because he can totally be trusted with a Reaper fleet under his control.

Joking aside, its clear Cerberus and TIM believe that they can win against the reapers, and use the Reapers when they are done. This puts an end to any collaboration between Shep and Cerberus, as their goals no longer align.

[Unschuld]

DiebytheSword wrote...

TIM was fairly clear on all this when you did or did not destroy the collector base. It was meant to secure humanity's future, beyond just the Reaper threat. Using my handy dandy Cerberus translation device, I figured that TIM wasn't looking to destroy the reapers, he was looking at them as a source of technology or worse, a means to an end. If he controls the Reapers, the galaxy is his. Oh and by his he means Cerberus', and by Cerberus' he means humanity's.

Because he can totally be trusted with a Reaper fleet under his control.

Joking aside, its clear Cerberus and TIM believe that they can win against the reapers, and use the Reapers when they are done. This puts an end to any collaboration between Shep and Cerberus, as their goals no longer align.

Yes.

Rational thought... it's like unobtanium here. Seriously, you're one of the people I wish BSN had a cloning vat for, so there would finally be some balance against the crazy on these forums. 

[Burneye Is God]

Omega4RelayResident wrote...

Actually in ME3 you find out "Illusive Man" is actually an agent for the Reapers. Hence the creepy glowing blue eyes... and making it his life's goal to make humanity look bad to the rest of the universe. ME2 was the "Illusive Man" setting Shep up for an actual suicide mission beyond the Omega 4 Relay... and basically trying to get him killed on every single mission he sent him on.

If you are confused as to why the "Illusive Man" resurrected Shep in the first place... allow me to explain

He knew that only Shep can gather the most influential and potentially dangerous individuals that could possibly stop the Reapers without Shepherd... including his old team mates. They were a concern to the Reapers. The new characters such as Grunt a.k.a. "The Perfect Krogan", Mordin Solus a.k.a. "The Einstein of the Time", Samara a.k.a. "Most Powerfull Biotic at the Time" were all obstacles that needed to be cleared out of the way before the Reapers arrive.

Hence... resurrect Shepherd with Reaper tech just like what Illusive Man did in the most recent novel to Gray. Have Shepherd gather up a team of the people that needed to die and send them to their doom beyond the Omega 4 Relay.

Cerberus activities were always aimed in such a way as to destroy the other Alien races faith in the Human race.

Cerberus is actually a Reaper front company... basically. And this is not a spoiler techincally... its up in the confirmed info posting.

wow this is obviously speculation, i assume but wow i like where u are going with this!!! wpu;dn't surprise me if its true

[feliciano2040]

PrimalEden wrote...

Shepard's lost his marbles and he's pulling a Saren & he thinks he's helping but instead is making it worse.

This would be so, SO awesome.

[D.Kain]

DiebytheSword wrote...

TIM was fairly clear on all this when you did or did not destroy the collector base. It was meant to secure humanity's future, beyond just the Reaper threat. Using my handy dandy Cerberus translation device, I figured that TIM wasn't looking to destroy the reapers, he was looking at them as a source of technology or worse, a means to an end. If he controls the Reapers, the galaxy is his. Oh and by his he means Cerberus', and by Cerberus' he means humanity's.

Because he can totally be trusted with a Reaper fleet under his control.

Joking aside, its clear Cerberus and TIM believe that they can win against the reapers, and use the Reapers when they are done. This puts an end to any collaboration between Shep and Cerberus, as their goals no longer align.

What if there is somebody that agrees with cerberus? 

[sassyJacen]

OK....my head is spinning.
We`ll just have to wait for Me3 to get the whole truth I think.
(hopefully)