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[TinyTim535]

     My
main character is a rogue with the ranger ability maxed out. I did the same
with Leliana. That means I have two characters that can summon great bears
giving me in essence a six person group. I send the bears in first to get
targeted by the enemy while my two rogues stand back with their bows and
usually not get touched. I chose the bears instead of the spiders because they
hit harder and take awhile to kill. If one of them dies I can quickly summon
the spider before the enemy gets to close.My other team mate depends on what
quest I'm doing at the time but if it doesn't matter I usually run with Alistair.
I'm playing on normal difficulty by the way.

     In short, I have found a suitable team that doesn't require
at least two mages to complete the game like some of the people on this forum
suggest, and it’s a fun team to play. Can you guys come up with other mageless
team combinations and how to properly use them?  

[Zotic]

You can use any team you like, it's just that if you don't have a healer or 2 pets tanking like your party, you just need to chug up alot of health pots. It's very doable, you can try a 3 mages + random, 3 rogues +random , etc every combination is possible as long as you have pots and use your skills right. Also bombs come in handy and traps can give you a pretty nice advantage.

[TinyTim535]

I don't think you fully understand the intent of my post. You say you can run three rogues and a mage, but have you personally done this? If you have, do you use three bards, or two duelist and a ranger? If you haven't, how do you know for sure its a working party? I want people to post their mageless parties and how to use them to give other players Ideas that they may not have thought of. I have seen a lot of topics on this forum saying you all-ways have to have a mage in your group when really you don't A new player trying to find a good party combination will get discouraged by reading these and think that's the only option and wont try anything else.

[Lacan2]

That would do really well against mobs. I'm going to try that in my next playthrough as a rogue (I'm currently a mage).



But what about dragons or Revenant? Those bears would be 2-3 hit KO'd.

[TinyTim535]

I have taken out revenant with this group and found it was a lot easier than using two mages. the bears don't go down as easy as you think they do. (At least in normal they don't) Have your other two party members equipped with stun abilities or use the spider's web shot to slow him down.

[-XM-]

Now all you need is to get Spell Might + Animated Dead on 2 mages then you have 4 summoned tanks, 2 archers and 2 mages.

[DrekorSilverfang]

Why use a healer when you can paralyze, sleep or fear everything with a mage? Being mageless just seems so inefficient. You don't need your mages healing but they make things so much easier even just CC'ing. I mean take a group of 3x DW DPS warriors, use misdirection hex on a boss and he won't hit any of them, throw on death hex and every single one of your warriors attacks will crit, it's comically funny. If you get swarmed will AE stun, mass paralysis, sleep or blood wound will stop everything in it's tracks while your warriors slaughter everything.

[5Warlocks]

Going to try a single Mage Nightmare run (probably Wynne) with a non-Mage PC just to see how bad/not bad it is. I'm planning on using a Rogue, Zevran, and Shale. Ranger and Assassin or Duelist for me, Assassin/Ranger for Zev, rushing Animate Dead with either Mage--I think that sounds fun and viable. Pets screw around, Shale does damage or tanks depending on the situation, Rogues spam Stealth IV and apply the DPS.

I'll provide an update at around level 14.

Modifié par 5Warlocks, 21 novembre 2009 - 10:17 .

[Tonya777]

What if you had 3 hunters plus morrigan being a bear herself? LOL

[TinyTim535]

Tonya777 wrote...

What if you had 3 hunters plus morrigan being a bear herself? LOL

That would be fun to try.

[Evilsod]

Good to know... i must admit i was a bit skeptical when i looked at the Ranger abilities.

[ALMAINYNY]

TinyTim535 wrote...

Tonya777 wrote...

What if you had 3 hunters plus morrigan being a bear herself? LOL

That would be fun to try.

Oh man, you'd have 4 bears (Morrigan being one, of course) and 3 archers. What a mess that would make. The mobs would be getting shot in the face and getting their guts ripped out in rapid succession!

Modifié par ALMAINYNY, 22 novembre 2009 - 05:20 .

[Alim Farrell]

I'm doing a 3 ranger + dog play through.  My warden is a dw/cun build with Zen and Lili as archers.  I usually bring along a bear and two spiders.

Sometimes its just as disgusting as having 3 mages and a tank.  Opening a battle with a bear charge, double scattershot, overwhelm, spider webs usually gets things under control really fast. For a tough battle I whip out traps/bombs and things end pretty quickly. 

[ALMAINYNY]

Alim Farrell wrote...

I'm doing a 3 ranger + dog play through.  My warden is a dw/cun build with Zen and Lili as archers.  I usually bring along a bear and two spiders.

Sometimes its just as disgusting as having 3 mages and a tank.  Opening a battle with a bear charge, double scattershot, overwhelm, spider webs usually gets things under control really fast. For a tough battle I whip out traps/bombs and things end pretty quickly. 

Ok, that's as "beastly" as you can get. A bear, 2 spiders. a dog, and 2 archers + a backstabber. That's seven party members. I don't even understand how you could lose unless you got swarmed by hundreds of Hurlock Alphas, and then you'd probably kill a good half of them. Definitely trying this out.

Modifié par ALMAINYNY, 22 novembre 2009 - 07:04 .

[Spartansfan8888]

Can you take control of your summons to charge them or do they just charge once they see enemies?

[soteria]

No one is saying you need two mages to complete the game or beat any fight, just that two mages trivializes the game.

[TinyTim535]

Spartansfan8888 wrote...

Can you take control of your summons to charge them or do they just charge once they see enemies?

Yes you can control them manually just like any other character.

[Jinnth]

TinyTim535 wrote...

I don't think you fully understand the intent of my post. You say you can run three rogues and a mage, but have you personally done this? If you have, do you use three bards, or two duelist and a ranger? If you haven't, how do you know for sure its a working party? I want people to post their mageless parties and how to use them to give other players Ideas that they may not have thought of. I have seen a lot of topics on this forum saying you all-ways have to have a mage in your group when really you don't A new player trying to find a good party combination will get discouraged by reading these and think that's the only option and wont try anything else.

Never played on normal (only nightmare). But most parties are viable on nightmare if you spec them correctly, and normal is most-likely soloable by a rogue abusing stealth or an AW anyways. The game system is so easilly abused I doubt there is any combinations that wouldn't make it trough the game, at least on the lower difficulties.

basically rogues spam stealth, mages spam CCs and warriors spam pots, not much strategy to it. Of course not all combinations are equal, 3 mage/ 1 wariror or 2 mages/1 rogue/1 warrior are probably supperior to all others(mages can turn make your tank invincible and keep enemies CCed almost forever), but I think any combination can make it torugh the game on normal.

Modifié par Jinnth, 22 novembre 2009 - 09:34 .

[TinyTim535]

On my first play through I never once used stealth on any character, I don't know why it just didn't appeal much to me. I also never created a healing or mana potion and never made a trap. I got into a few tough battles to where I had to restart a couple of times but all in all it was an effective party.Now I'm going to try a party of a mage and three warriors in nightmare mode. I hope it works out.

[thomasch88]

Is controlling a summon/animated dead possible for the xbox? I have yet to hear this, sounds fun to try out.

Modifié par thomasch88, 10 décembre 2009 - 03:11 .

[FunkyMo]

Tonya777 wrote...

What if you had 3 hunters plus morrigan being a bear herself? LOL

This is happening ASAP (after finals, curses!) I already have a rogue archer PC, so I'll just respec him, Zev, and Leliana to ranger. Then I'll re-re-spec Morrigan back to shapeshifter (I had her as spirit healer ).

Oh the chaos! Especially once I get to level 14 and I have 3x bard songs stacking as my bear-army mauls everything to shreds...








Now, if only there were a bear-cavalry mod <_<

[GarethPierce]

@ The OP; you have the Loghain icon, so I hate you. Square Smiley is so much better.



As to your post, the game's been solo'd on Nightmare with a rogue. No healer is easy. No mage is similar. Oh mai, you're using expendable tanks called bares! Might as well let Og and Sten tank and just use injury kits to patch them up. Nothing new here. Move along.

[zerocavities]

the annoying thing here for me, is that i think when you change zones the summons disappears and youll have to set up the tactics again. doing that for 2 bears... bs lol