Xilizhra wrote...
By this point we're going into purely semantic territory.I would prefer to always mean something to her.
Yeah, we are.
Would you seriously save the asari over humanity?
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Yeah, we are.
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Only if the asari was facing extinction and humanity would survive.
Nope. Asari and humans in their currentformsstates.
Well, in that case, humanity.
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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
RAF1940 wrote...
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
Only if the asari was facing extinction and humanity would survive.
Nope. Asari and humans in their currentformsstates.
Well, in that case, humanity.
You would let them die, or you'd keep them alive?
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It would depend on how 'grateful' a species of nothing but hot alien women are to me for saving them over my own species. 
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Posté 21 août 2011 - 04:08
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Urazz wrote...
It would depend on how 'grateful' a species of nothing but hot alien women are to me for saving them over my own species.
Heh heh heh
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Urazz wrote...
It would depend on how 'grateful' a species of nothing but hot alien women are to me for saving them over my own species.
Heh heh heh
Put's it all in perspective right?
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Ferris95 wrote...
RAF1940 wrote...
Urazz wrote...
It would depend on how 'grateful' a species of nothing but hot alien women are to me for saving them over my own species.
Heh heh heh
Put's it all in perspective right?
Yeah.
A lot of asari love is superficial, as the volus guy said a few pages back.
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RAF1940 wrote...
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RAF1940 wrote...
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Only if the asari was facing extinction and humanity would survive.
Nope. Asari and humans in their currentformsstates.
Well, in that case, humanity.
You would let them die, or you'd keep them alive?
I'd keep humanity alive. The asari might not completely go away, as they can mate with
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there are billions of people on the planet are you seriously telling me that you are the only person who is thinking of them?
Or are you talking about Shepard and the other aliens? Are you saying no other aliens give a crap about humans in the slightest? its this kind of thought that probably kept us out of the council so long. Obviously the Salarians, Asari, and Turians think of each other enough to reach a common goal.. Why cant we?
Yes I was talking about Shepard. If Shepard won't look out for humanity, humanity will be pretty much doomed. Shepard is humanity's thrumph card now. Wouldn't you feel kind betrayed if that thrumph card was used on another species?
If I were a random human in the ME3 universe, I'd be totally like "what the hell man? Why did you betray us!?" if Shepard decided he rather saves the asari than his own race, us.
The asari, turians and salarians don't share a common goal when it comes to making a choice between your own species or one of the others. When it comes down to it, I'm sure they'll all put the most priority on saving their own species.
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Of coures it seems like that to you I can see where your coming from here but just by flat out saying "the Asari are screwed because I wasn't born one" is very close minded. What if the result saves more lives than just that? would you doom the Salarians, The Hanar, Drell, ect just because your human? How would we even survive the reapers with such idias?
You put the emphasis on the wrong part. I don't like dooming other species. I don't enjoy it one but. But if I have to choose between dooming another species or dooming my own species, then sorry, but I'll choose dooming another species.
Why on earth would I doom my own species for the sake of another species?
Think of it this way: If that other species isn't capable of saving their own ass, then while I am capable of saving my own species, than why would I waste that chance so save my own species for the sake of another species? They had their own chance and they blew it. They lost. That's their problem for now. For now, I first need to save my own species ass and then I'll try to get their asses out of the fire too.
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I will say right now that I apologize for editing your post and using the White analogy I didn't intend to make it sound like you were racist.
Thank you.
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but natural and what is right don't always mix. The reason I used the White vs blacks thing is because if you had to chose whites or blacks in this scenario would you still do it? (I used Dogs and Cats in my other post because it seems less offensive but my point still stands what makes Asari less deserving of life than a different colored person?)
No, the Asari do not deserve to die. The asari deserve to live, like we all do. Everyone deserves to live. Thing is, we can't save EVERYONE (at least that's what this thread assumes), so we have to make sacrifices.
Now my question to you is, why would you sacrifice your own species over another species? Aren't we supposed to be all equal?
I believe we're all equal, asari and human alike. But I also believe asari would try to save their own ass first before they save humanities ass. If we don't do the same, we're screwed. Why do you want t screw your own species?
As much as I value the life of the asari, it just feels wrong to sacrifice my own ENTIRE species to save the asari race.
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I haven't given a straight up answer to this question yet so don't put words in my mouth. I don't want to answer without more context. Will killing the Asari weaken the Reapers or will saving them do it? I don't like absolutes without more to go on.
We all don't like absolutes. No one likes absolutes. I don't like absolutes either.
But if you want to put this more in context: You can assume that the asari population is MUCH higher than the human population. That means the asari can suffer billions of casualties and still have a chance to survive.
However, if humanity would suffer billions of casualties, we're pretty much doomed. With earth gone, humanity will most likely go extinct within a couple of decades, or humanity will be forced to become like the quarians or drell AT BEST.
I think, based on population and based on ethics and moral value, saving humanity deserves the highest priority. The asari has a bigger chance to survive without Shepard's aid than humanity does.
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I never said race when I used black and whites and I don't mean to be offensive when I bring them up.
then why do you use black people and white people as an example when you know they're both human and both the same apart from their skincolor?
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bobdooly wrote...
Rockworm503 wrote...
bobdooly wrote...
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Wow! I wonder what kind of mental disorder someone would have to be suffering from, to condemn there own species to extinction?
WOW! I wonder what kind of mental disorder someone would have to be suffering from, to condemn the entier galaxy to extinction to save their own?
WOW! I wonder what kind of mental disorder someone would have to be suffering from, to take the comment waaaaay out of context?
There is no context. Hence my point.
The original comment was "don't sacrifice your species to save another", which you took as "don't sacrifice your species to save the entire galaxy of many different species"
So am I just killing the Asari just for the lulz? This makes no sense without more to go on. If its just as simple as the Reapers offering to leave if I kill one of them than I don't know hard to say but. Just have a thread saying "Asari or Humans GO!" without more context I just don't see the point.
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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
RAF1940 wrote...
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
RAF1940 wrote...
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
Only if the asari was facing extinction and humanity would survive.
Nope. Asari and humans in their currentformsstates.
Well, in that case, humanity.
You would let them die, or you'd keep them alive?
I'd keep humanity alive. The asari might not completely go away, as they can mate withanythinganyoneanything.
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Posté 21 août 2011 - 04:13
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Rockworm503 wrote...
So am I just killing the Asari just for the lulz?
No. You would be killing the asari to save the humans, and vice-versa.
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Rockworm503 wrote...
bobdooly wrote...
Rockworm503 wrote...
bobdooly wrote...
Rockworm503 wrote...
XDMMX wrote...
Wow! I wonder what kind of mental disorder someone would have to be suffering from, to condemn there own species to extinction?
WOW! I wonder what kind of mental disorder someone would have to be suffering from, to condemn the entier galaxy to extinction to save their own?
WOW! I wonder what kind of mental disorder someone would have to be suffering from, to take the comment waaaaay out of context?
There is no context. Hence my point.
The original comment was "don't sacrifice your species to save another", which you took as "don't sacrifice your species to save the entire galaxy of many different species"
So am I just killing the Asari just for the lulz? This makes no sense without more to go on. If its just as simple as the Reapers offering to leave if I kill one of them than I don't know hard to say but. Just have a thread saying "Asari or Humans GO!" without more context I just don't see the point.
lolwut? You turned a "1 species vs 1 species" into "1 species vs at least 5 species". I have no idea what you just posted.
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Why do focus so much on species? Why is it important?
Why isn't saving lives more important? Why isn't saving more Asari ( or any other species ) more important than saving less humans? Why are Humans more important? Why is procreating important?
Why the hell do people focus on lives that are not born yet instead of focusing on those that live now???
Why do focus so much on species? Why is it important?
Why isn't saving lives more important? Why isn't saving more Asari ( or any other species ) more important than saving less humans? Why are Humans more important? Why is procreating important?
Why the hell do people focus on lives that are not born yet instead of focusing on those that live now???
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Posté 21 août 2011 - 04:15
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GodWood wrote...
I'd pick vorcha over asari.
So no
Care to elaborate?
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Posté 21 août 2011 - 04:17
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GodWood wrote...
I'd pick vorcha over asari.
So no
I'll kill the Vorcha and call it even... No wait the Asari aren't parasites so yeah.
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RAF1940 wrote...
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By the way, you don't have to "American-ize" your answer and use a period as the decimal.
Commas rock!
Heh, you're right. Why the hell do we Europeans always adapt to the Americans on the internet? If they only knew how much a pain in the ass it is to convert centimeters to inches every time we're talking about the length of... stuff...
And f*ck yeah commas rock!
Because most of us don't know enough about the world to even realize that there are people who would post 3.7 as 3,7.
Or 3,000,000 as 3.000.000.
I'm not trying to be rude. But the majority of Americans really know nothing about the world.
I am allowed to say this, as I am American.
I can't be the only American that gets tired of being included in broad generalizations. It's starting to get really insulting.
If it came down to choosing the extinction of asari or humans (which would be bizarre, but this is hypothetical anyway) I'd pick humans, since I happen to be included in that particular demographic. If it came down to saving Earth or Thessia, then I'd pick Earth. It's only been 28 years since first contact with the turians, so most humans still live on Earth. It's been about 2500 years since the Asari started using the Mass Relays. Their population would likely be more evenly distributed among their colonies, so they may be able to take one for the team while still maintaining the sovereignty of their remaining republics. The human colonies on the other hand are sparsely populated and would be easy pickings for slavers, pirates, or turian imperialists, barring the protection of the other Council races. I wouldn't be surprised if they wrote it off as a "purely human matter", however. They haven't done us any favors so far.
This isn't factoring in the survival of Arcturus Station (provided the human fleets aren't completely destroyed by the reapers) since I don't know whether or not the Alliance navy could sustain itself without Earth's industry.
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Rockworm503 wrote...
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I'd pick vorcha over asari.
So no
I'll kill the Vorcha and call it even... No wait the Asari aren't parasites so yeah.
Are they really parasites, or is this metaphorical?
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Pockles wrote...
RAF1940 wrote...
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RAF1940 wrote...
By the way, you don't have to "American-ize" your answer and use a period as the decimal.
Commas rock!
Heh, you're right. Why the hell do we Europeans always adapt to the Americans on the internet? If they only knew how much a pain in the ass it is to convert centimeters to inches every time we're talking about the length of... stuff...
And f*ck yeah commas rock!
Because most of us don't know enough about the world to even realize that there are people who would post 3.7 as 3,7.
Or 3,000,000 as 3.000.000.
I'm not trying to be rude. But the majority of Americans really know nothing about the world.
I am allowed to say this, as I am American.
I can't be the only American that gets tired of being included in broad generalizations. It's starting to get really insulting.
Quoted for truth.
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D.Kain wrote...
@Luc0s
Why do focus so much on species? Why is it important?
Why isn't saving lives more important? Why isn't saving more Asari ( or any other species ) more important than saving less humans? Why are Humans more important? Why is procreating important?
Why the hell do people focus on lives that are not born yet instead of focusing on those that live now???
While I am NOT answering for him, I'm just going to give what I get from his reasoning. The asari can take their homeworld being destroyed while humans can't because of billions more in number. Even if it was even, they are no more important than you. One or the other.
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Pockles wrote...
I can't be the only American that gets tired of being included in broad generalizations. It's starting to get really insulting.
I included the word "majority" for a reason. It wasn't a generalization because of that. It would be if I said "all Americans".
I by no means think all Americans are like that. I know a few that aren't. However, about 95% of the ones I know are like that. And I don't blame them. I blame the media and geography.
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That's very Ashley of you
Not really: in Ashley's analogy, humanity was the dog.
A large number of people need to stop invoking that comment if they can't understand something as simple as that entire segment. I mean, she prefaced that by saying we should look out for ourselves if I remember correctly.
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bobdooly wrote...
While I am NOT answering for him, I'm just going to give what I get from his reasoning. The asari can take their homeworld being destroyed while humans can't because of billions more in number. Even if it was even, they are no more important than you. One or the other.
But it doesn't make sense sacrifising more to save less. People are born and die everyday. Why would you care about those that are nor born yet instead of carring for those that live NOW?
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Quoted for truth.
I didn't include either of you. No need to be angry.
You can't possibly think that a majority of Americans knew that some people use a comma as a decimal point.
