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[Guywhoiam]

Aaleel wrote...

Well you have to win the war or everyone dies regardless. So i would make my decisions with that in mind.

This.

If saving the Asari and sacrificing humanity meant stopping the Reapers and saving countless more lives, then I would would without hesitation.

[Sisterofshane]

SpiffySquee wrote...

I don't see why the humans are any more deserving of being saved than the Asari. Should I save America over Europe? Should I save Texas over New York? I would try to save them both. If I could not, I would save which ever one I had the greatest chance of saving. If they had an equal chance, I would save which ever one had the greatest chance of rebuilding galactic civilization... which I think would be the Asari. Anyone who says I would save humans just because I'm a human (even if I say otherwise) is simply injecting their beliefs on my personality.

It's not really about deserving to be saved.  To put it in that sense makes it sound like there are criterion upon which to judge all the races, which there are not (unless you happen to be a Reaper...)

But ask an Asari if she would sacrifice the last of her species for only the expressed purpose of saving another species, even if her own has a chance to survive by neglecting the other.

If it came down to one simple choice - sacrifice Humanity or another species (both equally capable of rebuilding after the war), which one would you (as a human) pick?

I think of it kind of like what Ash said in ME1 -- if you ran into a bear, as much as you love him, you would tell your dog to sic it and run for your life.  It doesn't quite apply equally, but the chance to continue your own way of life seems (to me) to be a pretty important reason to want to save your own species.

[Quinnzel]

I would save a Volus over humanity.

[spurkis]

Hell yes. They are, tech-wise, millennias closer to ascension than us, and I think they have more to add to the galaxy.

[SpiffySquee]

Luc0s wrote...

SpiffySquee wrote...

I don't see why the humans are any more deserving of being saved than the Asari.

Because WE ARE HUMANS. You are human. Shepard is human. THAT alone is reason enough to put humanity first when it comes to saving the galaxy.

Save your own ass before you (can) save anyone else.

Seriously, NOT saving humanity first is basically just shooting yourself and your own species in the foot. It's a huge F*CK YOU towards your entire own species. Do you really want to betray your own species?

If YOU (Commander Shepard) won't stand up for humanity, WHO ELSE will?

SpiffySquee wrote...

Should I save America over Europe?

If you're American, then yes. I would save Europe first because I'm European.

SpiffySquee wrote...

Anyone who says I would save humans just because I'm a human (even if I say otherwise) is simply injecting their beliefs on my personality.

Bullcrap and you know it. NOT puting your own species first is simply unnatural. Just look at mother nature. EVERY species in existence looks out for their OWN kind first before they look out for other species (if they look out for other species at all).

What a very close minded view of the world you have. I should save America just because I'm American? What if I have a greater chance of saving Europe? Should I just ignore that? What if America does not have the better chance of rebuilding afterward and dies out anyway? Oh well? Guess it does not matter because I was born here. What a fine way to judge things by. I was born on this rock instead of that rock, so this rock is much more important. I will save this rock no matter what, even if I have a better chance of saving the other rock. Even though the other rock is much more valuable to the world as a whole.

I was born with hair instead of a tentacle head, so obviously anyone with hair is much more important... My way of life and my people are so much more important than your way of life and your people because I'm selfish. Is that what you are trying to say I beleive? Because I don't.

Oh I must be full of it because I don't see the world the way you do, and that is just not possible.<_<

[SpiffySquee]

Sisterofshane wrote...

SpiffySquee wrote...

I don't see why the humans are any more deserving of being saved than the Asari. Should I save America over Europe? Should I save Texas over New York? I would try to save them both. If I could not, I would save which ever one I had the greatest chance of saving. If they had an equal chance, I would save which ever one had the greatest chance of rebuilding galactic civilization... which I think would be the Asari. Anyone who says I would save humans just because I'm a human (even if I say otherwise) is simply injecting their beliefs on my personality.

It's not really about deserving to be saved.  To put it in that sense makes it sound like there are criterion upon which to judge all the races, which there are not (unless you happen to be a Reaper...)

But ask an Asari if she would sacrifice the last of her species for only the expressed purpose of saving another species, even if her own has a chance to survive by neglecting the other.

If it came down to one simple choice - sacrifice Humanity or another species (both equally capable of rebuilding after the war), which one would you (as a human) pick?

I think of it kind of like what Ash said in ME1 -- if you ran into a bear, as much as you love him, you would tell your dog to sic it and run for your life.  It doesn't quite apply equally, but the chance to continue your own way of life seems (to me) to be a pretty important reason to want to save your own species.

odd... because if my cat was trapped in a burning house, I would risk my life to save it. If a bear were chasing my I most certainly would not send a dog I loved to hold if off. That statement is one of the reason I really do not like her. We would both run, or we would both fight. I would never sacrifice something I loved and cared about just to save my own skin.

As for if everything was completely equal? Thankfully that is never the case. One race would have a greater chance of survival than the other, and I would chose that one. If in the strange event that everything was completely  equal, I would save which ever race had more people. That way I could say I save the most lives I could.

Modifié par SpiffySquee, 21 août 2011 - 01:30 .

[Aeowyn]

No, definitely not.

[asindre]

That would depend on the situation if for example humanity had a 10% chance of survival and asari have 50% the asari are the obvious choice.

[Tommy6860]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

Yes, humans aren't exactly what I'd call deserving and the Asari seem to want to maintain balance.

Plus, there's about 1000 years of romance possibilities per Asari as well

[Xerxes52]

Nope.

[asindre]

Sisterofshane wrote...
I think of it kind of like what Ash said in ME1 -- if you ran into a bear, as much as you love him, you would tell your dog to sic it and run for your life.  It doesn't quite apply equally, but the chance to continue your own way of life seems (to me) to be a pretty important reason to want to save your own species.

Are you really comparing the asari to animals?

That's very Ashley of you 

Modifié par asindre, 21 août 2011 - 01:36 .

[bobdooly]

spurkis wrote...

Hell yes. They are, tech-wise, millennias closer to ascension than us, and I think they have more to add to the galaxy.

The only thing they added to the galaxy was evolving first.

[Xilizhra]

Well, my own children would be asari, so... there's that too.

[MrFob]

Hey, just imagine yourself being the only human survivor and absolute hero in the new all asari universe ... I mean, who wouldn't be tempted .

But the answer is still no. Humanity has to survive somehow.

[spurkis]

bobdooly wrote...

spurkis wrote...

Hell yes. They are, tech-wise, millennias closer to ascension than us, and I think they have more to add to the galaxy.

The only thing they added to the galaxy was evolving first.

Nay.

[Izhalezan]

Humans first, how else are we going to get a God emperor?

[Enigmatick]

@SpiffySquee You forget, without us humans you lose your shag carpets for the Normandy! Aha!

[green_lemur]

bobdooly wrote...

Stryker1550 wrote...

Vamp44 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

No.

[didymos1120]

asindre wrote...
That's very Ashley of you 

Not really: in Ashley's analogy, humanity was the dog.

[Tommy6860]

Luc0s wrote...

SpiffySquee wrote...

I don't see why the humans are any more deserving of being saved than the Asari.

Because WE ARE HUMANS. You are human. Shepard is human. THAT alone is reason enough to put humanity first when it comes to saving the galaxy.

Save your own ass before you (can) save anyone else.

Seriously, NOT saving humanity first is basically just shooting yourself and your own species in the foot. It's a huge F*CK YOU towards your entire own species. Do you really want to betray your own species?

If YOU (Commander Shepard) won't stand up for humanity, WHO ELSE will?

SpiffySquee wrote...

Should I save America over Europe?

If you're American, then yes. I would save Europe first because I'm European.

SpiffySquee wrote...

Anyone who says I would save humans just because I'm a human (even if I say otherwise) is simply injecting their beliefs on my personality.

Bullcrap and you know it. NOT puting your own species first is simply unnatural. Just look at mother nature. EVERY species in existence looks out for their OWN kind first before they look out for other species (if they look out for other species at all).

The flaw in your thinking is that non-human animals do what you say from instinct, humans can rationalize. Other than that, this is turning into another

Modifié par Tommy6860, 21 août 2011 - 01:41 .

[KenKenpachi]

Hell no.