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[Dunmer of Redoran]

Asari would actually be my second choice of any race to let die, the first being the Batarians.

-Humans are...humans.
-Salarians have the best bio-scientists in the galaxy, so that's too good to pass up.
-Geth can provide an infinite supply of bodies if their faciilties don't get destroyed.
-Quarians aren't going to threaten anyone in the future, and the Geth are incomplete until they and the Quarians resolve things. They're the best engineers.
-Krogan provide the best infantry.
-Turians provide the best navy and are the basic peacekeepers.
-Rachni = big army, just like the Geth.
-Elcor will never be a threat to anyone.
-Hanar are the same as Elcor.
-Drell are the same as the Hanar.
-Volus keep trade going on.
-Yahg could be a new kind of krogan, so to speak, if they get raised.
-Vorcha are pests but they're not a threat to anybody.

The Asari live for over a thousand years and breed at a rate akin to people if they want to and their populations are huge. Plus, unlike the krogan, they don't go to war amongst themselves whenever they're overpopulated. They just keep breeding. If they don't suffer and someone else does, they're just crowding that other species out.

[Reever]

Depends on the circumstances. And the Shepard =D

[Schneidend]

If it literally came down to "save the asari, or save humanity," I'd choose humanity every. Single. Time.

[Vilio1]

Asari are my favorite Mass Effect species. Bye bye earth.

[landis963]

It depends on the Shepard. If he loved Liara, he would take that into account (with a higher likelihood of saving the asari to avoid breaking her heart). If it were a self-insert, however, he would just save humanity.

[Gabey5]

nah, just nah

[Undertone]

Luc0s wrote...

If Mass Effect was real I'm 100% every single human would answer with "no".

EVERY - SINGLE - ONE!

No-one in their rightful mind would put another species above their own in real-life. It just isn't natural!

QFT. Some people here though are too caught up in their fantasy worlds.

[Golden Owl]

landis963 wrote...

It depends on the Shepard. If he loved Liara, he would take that into account (with a higher likelihood of saving the asari to avoid breaking her heart). If it were a self-insert, however, he would just save humanity.

All those other people in love, with families, etc... don't count?...

Modifié par Golden Owl, 22 août 2011 - 12:55 .

[landis963]

DaftArbiter wrote...

Asari would actually be my second choice of any race to let die, the first being the Batarians.

-Humans are...humans.
-Salarians have the best bio-scientists in the galaxy, so that's too good to pass up.
-Geth can provide an infinite supply of bodies if their faciilties don't get destroyed.
-Quarians aren't going to threaten anyone in the future, and the Geth are incomplete until they and the Quarians resolve things. They're the best engineers.
-Krogan provide the best infantry.
-Turians provide the best navy and are the basic peacekeepers.
-Rachni = big army, just like the Geth.
-Elcor will never be a threat to anyone.
-Hanar are the same as Elcor.
-Drell are the same as the Hanar.
-Volus keep trade going on.
-Yahg could be a new kind of krogan, so to speak, if they get raised.
-Vorcha are pests but they're not a threat to anybody.

The Asari live for over a thousand years and breed at a rate akin to people if they want to and their populations are huge. Plus, unlike the krogan, they don't go to war amongst themselves whenever they're overpopulated. They just keep breeding. If they don't suffer and someone else does, they're just crowding that other species out.

However, the Asari have one benefit over literally every other species: the biotics.  As of this point, there is literally no introduced species that a) has naturally occurring biotics, the culture necessary to reflexively nurture a young biotic (Turians, in contrast, are leery of biotic ability (as told in ME1 codex)) thus allowing them to grow to full potential (be that exceptionally fine control over a biotic shield or exceptionally strong power to charge an enemy), or c) the innate and extensive knowledge of what can be done with biotics at full potential (i.e. what strength/control, etc.), without resorting to Cerberus-esque shenanigans e.g. Pragia.  

Also, I wouldn't trust a Yahg closer to me or any troops under my command than I could throw it.  They're actually my second choice to die, first being batarians (haven't produced enough non-speciesist non-idiots to show them as anything other than the exception rather than the rule).  

Although, if the choice were "Thessia or Earth" rather than "Asari everywhere or Earth" I'd gladly put Thessia on the chopping block.  

[landis963]

Golden Owl wrote...

landis963 wrote...

It depends on the Shepard. If he loved Liara, he would take that into account (with a higher likelihood of saving the asari to avoid breaking her heart). If it were a self-insert, however, he would just save humanity.

All those other people in love, with families, etc... don't count?...

That particular Shepard is rather self-centered, and tends to ignore consequences beyond "What is best for me and the people I care about."  

I didn't say it was the right choice, and if it were "asari everywhere vs. humans everywhere" I'd choose humanity, while making sure as many asari as possible were saved beforehand.  If it was just the choice of "which homeworld gets destroyed", I'd choose Thessia without a backward glance, as both asari and humanity have enough colonies to not be totally destroyed along with their homeworld.  

[Warlocomotf]

Undertone wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

If Mass Effect was real I'm 100% every single human would answer with "no".

EVERY - SINGLE - ONE!

No-one in their rightful mind would put another species above their own in real-life. It just isn't natural!

QFT. Some people here though are too caught up in their fantasy worlds.

What you mean is, you can not imagine it.
There are plenty of people who do not care about having similar DNA, there are people who are outright disgusted with the political state (rightfully so) of large parts of the world.

I genuinely would sacrifice humanity for more peaceful species such as the Salarians and to a lesser degree the Asari.

[Balek-Vriege]

For me it depends on the circumstance. In the face of total galactic annihilation, if I knew that there was very little to no chance of saving my species, but it was possible to save another race before it was too late, I may make the decision to help them instead. It's sort of like the decision the Protheans made at Ilos. They decided to give a future species a fighting chance, rather than try to reboot their own race which would likely end in failure.

However, if Earth is still there for the saving, I would sacrifice another races' chances of survival for my own "kin." I guess the decision will come down to how my playthrough ends up and how Earth fairs as I near closer to the conclusion of ME3.

[SandTrout]

Warlocomotf wrote...

What you mean is, you can not imagine it.
There are plenty of people who do not care about having similar DNA, there are people who are outright disgusted with the political state (rightfully so) of large parts of the world.

I genuinely would sacrifice humanity for more peaceful species such as the Salarians and to a lesser degree the Asari.

Being human is an immutable aspect of your self-identity, and by valuing other species above your own you are necessarily devaluing an aspect of yourself, and an important aspect, at that. You will never become Asari, Salarian, Quarian, or Turian. This is an absolute objective truth.

As flawed as your own species is, as long as it exists, you can keep the hope of improving it, even if you are improving it with ideas from alien species. Allowing the extinction of your species prevents all hope of improving it, and by proxy, it destroys the hope of improving yourself. If you think that the species is beyond redemption, then you are necessarily claiming that yourself is beyond redemption. This low self-value is not a healthy state of being.

If you don't like the political state of things within the Alliance (which are pretty damn good, IMO), then work to replace that unsatisfactory state of affairs; don't sacrifice your species and yourself. If you dislike aspects of our culture and find other species' to have superior aspects of theirs, adapt those positive aspects to your own species rather than dooming it for its imperfections.

Repair and improve rather than abandon and destroy.

[SandTrout]

Balek-Vriege wrote...

For me it depends on the circumstance. In the face of total galactic annihilation, if I knew that there was very little to no chance of saving my species, but it was possible to save another race before it was too late, I may make the decision to help them instead. It's sort of like the decision the Protheans made at Ilos. They decided to give a future species a fighting chance, rather than try to reboot their own race which would likely end in failure.

This makes sense, but as you stated, is not the case (yet).

If Humanity was doomed to extinction regardless of what choices we can make, then I would vote for a blaze of glory rather than outright surrender.

This, however, is not what is being discussed.

[Bluko]

Only if saving the Asari means beating the Reapers for good.

Also technically as long as Shepard lives humanity still exists. Also I can't possibly see how the Reapers could wipe out every single human being. And you're also missing the point that humanity would still live... just as giant Robot God of Death instead of billions of individuals. 

If saving Thessia is more strategically valuable then saving Earth I'll do it. Saving solely humanity at the expense of all other alien races seems pretty dumb to me. That's like letting every other single creature on Earth die. All life depends on other life. Humans didn't develop Mass Effect technology, we got it from the Protheans so the idea were better then the aliens to begin with is rubbish. I'll never understand why we view ourselves as being more sacred or important then other things. Well it makes us feel better, but whatever.

To me it is inevitable the human race will eventually become entirely artificial. Eventually technological integration will take us to the point where we can no longer be considered human.

All things considered seeing that my Shepard is an orphan the people I want to save are ultimately going to be my friends.

[Boiny Bunny]

One of the more primal human self-preservation instincts: To firmly believe that whatever one is, it is superior, and to be glad for being what one is.

This applies to a variety of things, most notably physical characteristics such as gender and race, in more modern times, sexual orientation (and in the case of a sci-fi setting, species).

Whilst such instincts are useful for a developing race of primatives, they don't achieve anything good once the species has developed to the point of organised society. An obvious and notable example is of Germany during World War 2. Do you, proponents of destroying other alien species for no reason other than 'to secure human dominance', view yourselves as World War 2 Germany? Do you want to wage the war that they did? Achieve the same result?

Within my own playstyle, I prefer to think of all sentient alien species in the ME universe as being completely equal in terms of value of life. As such, the decisions I make are intented to save as many lives as possible, utterly regardless of which species, gender, skin colour, sexual orientation, or any other physical characteristic you might like to list, they take the form of.

[Warlocomotf]

SandTrout wrote...

Warlocomotf wrote...

What you mean is, you can not imagine it.
There are plenty of people who do not care about having similar DNA, there are people who are outright disgusted with the political state (rightfully so) of large parts of the world.

I genuinely would sacrifice humanity for more peaceful species such as the Salarians and to a lesser degree the Asari.

Being human is an immutable aspect of your self-identity, and by valuing other species above your own you are necessarily devaluing an aspect of yourself, and an important aspect, at that. You will never become Asari, Salarian, Quarian, or Turian. This is an absolute objective truth.

As flawed as your own species is, as long as it exists, you can keep the hope of improving it, even if you are improving it with ideas from alien species. Allowing the extinction of your species prevents all hope of improving it, and by proxy, it destroys the hope of improving yourself. If you think that the species is beyond redemption, then you are necessarily claiming that yourself is beyond redemption. This low self-value is not a healthy state of being.

If you don't like the political state of things within the Alliance (which are pretty damn good, IMO), then work to replace that unsatisfactory state of affairs; don't sacrifice your species and yourself. If you dislike aspects of our culture and find other species' to have superior aspects of theirs, adapt those positive aspects to your own species rather than dooming it for its imperfections.

Repair and improve rather than abandon and destroy.

If you are in a position to make this kind of decision, you're responsible for the future of the galaxy as a whole. To disregard all reasonable argument and pick humanity just because you are one is selfish and irresponsible.

Also, I don't devalue myself by valueing another beyond me. I don't devalue myself by pointing out that Einstein was more intelligent than me. Also, I don't devalue myself by having the knowledge that much of humanity has traits I despise- there are ofcourse those who do not fall into that category, but that does not change the species as a whole.

I would not doom my own species just because I can, however if what in my eyes is a preferable species survives as a result- than I have enough reason to make that consideration (and decide based on just how preferable that species is).

[ThisIsMadness91]

It depends on what you mean. If it comes down to literally only being able to save either humanity or the asari, then obviously I would choose to save humanity. If it's a case of choosing between "sacrifice the asari and humanity will be perfectly fine" and "save the asari and humanity will survive but take a hit from the Reapers", I'd probably go for the latter, since both species will survive that way, and humanity's strong resolve would eventually see the damage undone.

[Plakto]

asari are snooty, selfish and ****ty. Never was attracted to a single one, Liara being only tolerable. Humanity first.

[cerberus1701]

I would choose to save the Asari. Absolutely. Immediately. Without hesitation. Without an ounce of regret.

Read the Yahoo Message Boards on pretty much any story and tell me the human race deserves to continue.

[LexXxich]

You humans are all racist.

But seriously, the only correct answer is saving whoever you have more chances to save. If Earth needs to be sacrificed/left to Reapers to save the big galaxy (which has some more human colonies), let it be.

[Elvis_Mazur]

Just because I'm human doesn't necessarily mean they have to be my favorite race.

And yes, I would sacrifice humanity if that means saving the asari.

[Wereparrot]

Absolutely not. Anyone who would save another race over humanity is a traitor.

[BatmanPWNS]

Listening to some comments here about sacrificing us humans. I am glad they aren't actually Spectres!

Modifié par BatmanPWNS, 22 août 2011 - 04:28 .

[Barquiel]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Listening to some comments here about sacrificing us humans. I am glad they aren't actually Spectres!

As a Spectre, it's my (Shepard's) job to protect galactic interests and not just humanity's.