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[Destroy Raiden_]

< Listening to some comments here about sacrificing us humans. I am glad they aren't actually Spectres! >


Yeah I don't get the human hate. Such mindsets must wake up in the morning thinking humans are pigs so then any little incident reinforces this idea, the game has fictional chracter saying about this idea, and then they come on to the blog and go all humans are pigs and should die. Really just don't play the game if you don't want to win it for humanity we're taking back Earth after all. Do they really expect to blow up Earth and then their shep rides off into the galaxy? Where is the win in your species becomes the next drells?

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 22 août 2011 - 04:52 .

[mumatil]

A race of blue bimbos?

Sure.

[BatmanPWNS]

Barquiel wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Listening to some comments here about sacrificing us humans. I am glad they aren't actually Spectres!

As a Spectre, it's my (Shepard's) job to protect galactic interests and not just humanity's.

The reason Shepard even became a spectre was to help Humanity come closer to getting a seat on the Council and to make Alliance more stronger.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

definetly not

[Warlocomotf]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

< Listening to some comments here about sacrificing us humans. I am glad they aren't actually Spectres! >

Yeah I don't get the human hate. Such mindsets must wake up in the morning thinking humans are pigs so then any little incident reinforces this idea, the game has fictional chracter saying about this idea, and then they come on to the blog and go all humans are pigs and should die. Really just don't play the game if you don't want to win it for humanity we're taking back Earth after all. Do they really expect to blow up Earth and then their shep rides off into the galaxy? Where is the win in your species becomes the next drells?

You don't follow the news or politics do you? Unfortunately for the most part, the good things that happen are often the "little incidents". Much of the general lines, not so much.

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Listening to some comments here about sacrificing us humans. I am glad they aren't actually Spectres!

As a Spectre, it's my (Shepard's) job to protect galactic interests and not just humanity's.

The reason Shepard even became a spectre was to help Humanity come closer to getting a seat on the Council and to make Alliance more stronger.

Yes, and it was that seat on the council that was to make humanity stronger. Shepard's purpose (if anything) was to make humanity look good for the council. Displaying a willingness to compromise and make sacrifice- looking out for the well being of the galactic community as a whole was always an essential part of that.

[Volus Warlord]

The asari lovers will never get it.

[Barquiel]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Listening to some comments here about sacrificing us humans. I am glad they aren't actually Spectres!

As a Spectre, it's my (Shepard's) job to protect galactic interests and not just humanity's.

The reason Shepard even became a spectre was to help Humanity come closer to getting a seat on the Council and to make Alliance more stronger.

Maybe your Shepard. My Shepard swore to protect the entire galaxy/all races...and that's exactly what she'll do.

[Dean_the_Young]

Barquiel wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Listening to some comments here about sacrificing us humans. I am glad they aren't actually Spectres!

As a Spectre, it's my (Shepard's) job to protect galactic interests and not just humanity's.

Not really. As a Spectre, it's Shepard's job to be the Council's errand boy. Galactic interests is coincidental, but political convenience for the Council is just as official.

[BatmanPWNS]

Warlocomotf wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Listening to some comments here about sacrificing us humans. I am glad they aren't actually Spectres!

As a Spectre, it's my (Shepard's) job to protect galactic interests and not just humanity's.

The reason Shepard even became a spectre was to help Humanity come closer to getting a seat on the Council and to make Alliance more stronger.

Yes, and it was that seat on the council that was to make humanity stronger. Shepard's purpose (if anything) was to make humanity look good for the council. Displaying a willingness to compromise and make sacrifice- looking out for the well being of the galactic community as a whole was always an essential part of that.

Yes but why should I sacrifice the humans for Asari? It's a loss-loss situation but, unlike Humanity, Asari's are a stranger to me. Humans might be evil or cruel but I am not willing to watch my parents, brothers, cousins or mate burn just because of those people. I know sacrificing the Asari would also be killing people who loved each other but from my point my family comes first.

Modifié par BatmanPWNS, 22 août 2011 - 05:01 .

[wright1978]

Impossible question to answer as it completely depends on any number of variables, which are well variable and hence chnage the nature of the choice on offer. From the individual(paragon/renegade nature of Shep & his/her friendships/relationships) to the exact nature of the choice(what no of lives etc are in each of the two scales). What i find troubling is the thought of unilaterally choosing human or Asari without having detail of what kind choice you are making.

[Aaleel]

My first priority is to defeat the reapers. If committing troops to save Earth is going to severely decrease the odds of accomplishing that, especially if it's so decimated already that I'll get no help, then yes I'll have to let it go.

Because saving Humanity at the expense of losing the overall war makes no sense because if the reapers win they're just going to destroy or enslave what's left of Humanity anyway.

[lovgreno]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

No.

What Dean said. Though it will probably be necesary to save the asari if humanity is going to have a chance of survival. Strenght in numbers and all that.

[Xeniphe]

But Asari can increase their numbers easily since they can reproduce with any species. But Humans need humans, so I'd rather save humanity since the Asari will eventually return.

[Dean_the_Young]

lovgreno wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

No.

What Dean said. Though it will probably be necesary to save the asari if humanity is going to have a chance of survival. Strenght in numbers and all that.

I don't think I've ever been quoted 33 pages after the fact before.

[Warlocomotf]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Yes but why should I sacrifice the humans for Asari? It's a loss-loss situation but, unlike Humanity, Asari's are a stranger to me. Humans might be evil or cruel but I am not willing to watch my parents, brothers, cousins or mate burn just because of those people. I know sacrificing the Asari would also be killing people who loved each other but from my point my family comes first.

Then it's a good thing you're not in a position to make decisions of galactic (or really, even national) importance.

[Dean_the_Young]

You must have mixed something up, because 'priority to one's own group' is rather the requirement and basis for leadership legitimacy.

Generally the alternative ranges from 'quisling' to 'betrayer.'

[Xilizhra]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

You must have mixed something up, because 'priority to one's own group' is rather the requirement and basis for leadership legitimacy.

Generally the alternative ranges from 'quisling' to 'betrayer.'

I consider my group to be the galaxy. Nothing smaller necessary.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

I would not.

[Warlocomotf]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

You must have mixed something up, because 'priority to one's own group' is rather the requirement and basis for leadership legitimacy.

Generally the alternative ranges from 'quisling' to 'betrayer.'

A spectre's "own group" is the galactic community. You're not a human special interests representative.

Also "betrayer" is more often than not a loosely used term with little to no basis in rational argument. If I choose to join [x], and then betray them. Sure, betrayer. If I am born into [y]- than choosing [z] is a perfectly reasonable decision. I do not owe [y] **** just for being born into it.

[lovgreno]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

lovgreno wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

No.

What Dean said. Though it will probably be necesary to save the asari if humanity is going to have a chance of survival. Strenght in numbers and all that.

I don't think I've ever been quoted 33 pages after the fact before.

Well to be honest I couldn't bother reading longer than to your post.

[Aaleel]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

You must have mixed something up, because 'priority to one's own group' is rather the requirement and basis for leadership legitimacy.

Generally the alternative ranges from 'quisling' to 'betrayer.'

Well the requirement for leadership to me is winning the overall war, because if you lose, everyone is going to die anyways, including Humanity.  To me a leader making a poor decision that may doom the known universe, Humanity included is almost "Dereliction of Duty"

Modifié par Aaleel, 22 août 2011 - 05:24 .

[Any_ILL]

@ Dean_the_Young: You are right. And in this war, the group in question can be all species threatened by the reaper, depending on what Shepard believes. If she/he's spectre, it's even her/his duty but that's not really important. Shepard is in a position where (s)he can choose who exactly is her/his group, and I hope the developers will use it.

edit: I'd choose the Asaris

Modifié par Any_ILL, 22 août 2011 - 05:28 .

[Xeniphe]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

lovgreno wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

No.

What Dean said. Though it will probably be necesary to save the asari if humanity is going to have a chance of survival. Strenght in numbers and all that.

I don't think I've ever been quoted 33 pages after the fact before.

Aren't Humans 'special' in some way? They're the only ones who can stop the Reapers or something.