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Would you seriously save the asari over humanity?


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We would basically turn out like the drell...

Part of the galactic community, but rare to ever see one.

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didymos1120 wrote...

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I think he's coming at this from a scientific angle. And, scientifically, he is right.


Science tells us what IS, not what OUGHT to be.  And genes don't give a crap about "the species".  They just replicate.  If that means instilling a tendency to prolonged maternal/paternal care, defense of young, indifference to the fate of offspring, or even a willingness to be eaten by the female in the midst of procreating, so be it. Whatever works.


That's not what I meant.

I meant that he is right in saying that the purpose of life is to reproduce (from a scientific viewpoint).

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Travie wrote...

We would basically turn out like the drell...

Part of the galactic community, but rare to ever see one.


Probably.

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lololololololol no

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RAF1940 wrote...

Travie wrote...

We would basically turn out like the drell...

Part of the galactic community, but rare to ever see one.


Probably.


Would that be so bad? We would be few but damned respected for our sacrifice.

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Ferris95 wrote...

RAF1940 wrote...

Travie wrote...

We would basically turn out like the drell...

Part of the galactic community, but rare to ever see one.


Probably.


Would that be so bad? We would be few but damned respected for our sacrifice.


"Damned respected"?

I honestly doubt that. The sacrifice would probably be forgotten within a few generations (which isn't really a set amount of time in ME, though).

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RAF1940 wrote...

 Anything you read in the codex is fact.


Careful there.  The Codex says Sovereign was a geth construction.

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I would not make that decision lightly. I would honestly do my best to protect/safeguard all species, but I can only do so much. As humanity's fate rests in their hands, the Asari's fate rests in their hands

It's my job to give them a fighting chance...

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give me a couple of Asari wives and........yeah......yeah I would

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Luc0s wrote...

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Alright there tough guy, you've been throwing your testosterone all over the thread... provide proof.


Right.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Earth
http://masseffect.wi...wiki/Terra_Nova
http://masseffect.wi...wiki/Eden_Prime
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Human (see "Human Worlds" for a list of all human colonies with links to their respective wiki-page)

You've managed to forget about Bekenstien, there's another 5.4 million, and I am pretty sure there's dozens of other colonies around the expanse. Liara, if I remember right, makes several comments about how humans are expanding all over....

Again... losing Earth =/= humans go extinct.

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bobdooly wrote...

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Which is why if Spiffy would lead the war against the reaper, he would doom humanity unnecessarily. He would sacrifice humanity to save the asari, even though he also could have saved both if he actually had humanity on the top of his priority list.

Man, knowing that your species is doomed because the leader of humanity (Commander Spiffy Shepard) though it doesn't have to be that way... talking about a grim fate. I wouldn't want to be a human if I lived in Spiffy's universe.


Would you stop putting words in my mouth? All I said was that I think they are equally important and that I would save which everyone I had the greater chance of saving. I never said anything about sacrificing humanity when I could save both. You are completely changing your original question and pretending that saving one means saving both.



If you save Asari, humanity dies and asari prospers. If you save humanity, humanity lives to struggle another day and asari survive on all of their colonies. Remember, asari were the first to expand and had the most time.


But that was not the question. Look at the topic of the thread. This infers one lives and one dies. Otherwise where is the debate?

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Ferris95 wrote...

RAF1940 wrote...

Travie wrote...

We would basically turn out like the drell...

Part of the galactic community, but rare to ever see one.


Probably.


Would that be so bad? We would be few but damned respected for our sacrifice.


Just like the quarians are respected for their toughness and absolute refusal to die despite severe adversity.

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Okay, so you admit that you'll put humanity on top of your priority-list now you know that the asari can suffer billions of casualties and still survive, while humanity would be doomed with billions of casualties?

Where are you getting these numbers?

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didymos1120 wrote...

RAF1940 wrote...

 Anything you read in the codex is fact.


Careful there.  The Codex says Sovereign was a geth construction.


But that's purposeful on BioWare's part, to show that the galaxy believes he was.

It's supposed to be "Shepard's codex", not the player's, isn't it?

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RAF1940 wrote...

Ferris95 wrote...

RAF1940 wrote...

Travie wrote...

We would basically turn out like the drell...

Part of the galactic community, but rare to ever see one.


Probably.


Would that be so bad? We would be few but damned respected for our sacrifice.


"Damned respected"?

I honestly doubt that. The sacrifice would probably be forgotten within a few generations (which isn't really a set amount of time in ME, though).


Between Shepard becoming an icon of all that humanity can be by stopping the apocolypse and the major sacrifice we've made, I think that the respect would last a little bit longer than a few generations. Asari generations, maybe but this would a real lasting mark.

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Sunnie22 wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Alright there tough guy, you've been throwing your testosterone all over the thread... provide proof.


Right.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Earth
http://masseffect.wi...wiki/Terra_Nova
http://masseffect.wi...wiki/Eden_Prime
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Human (see "Human Worlds" for a list of all human colonies with links to their respective wiki-page)

You've managed to forget about Bekenstien, theres another 5.4 million, and I am pretty sure theres dozens of other colonies around the expanse. Liara, if I remember right, makes several comments abotu how humans are expanding all over....


Liara is a manipulative blue-skinned moron that cannot be trusted.

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Luc0s wrote...

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I don't see why the humans are any more deserving of being saved than the Asari.


Because WE ARE HUMANS. You are human. Shepard is human. THAT alone is reason enough to put humanity first when it comes to saving the galaxy.

Save your own ass before you (can) save anyone else.

Seriously, NOT saving humanity first is basically just shooting yourself and your own species in the foot. It's a huge F*CK YOU towards your entire own species. Do you really want to betray your own species?

If YOU (Commander Shepard) won't stand up for humanity, WHO ELSE will?


SpiffySquee wrote...

Should I save America over Europe?


If you're American, then yes. I would save Europe first because I'm European.


SpiffySquee wrote...

Anyone who says I would save humans just because I'm a human (even if I say otherwise) is simply injecting their beliefs on my personality.


Bullcrap and you know it. NOT puting your own species first is simply unnatural. Just look at mother nature. EVERY species in existence looks out for their OWN kind first before they look out for other species (if they look out for other species at all).


not putting whites over blacks is unnattural because I'm white.

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Pretty much. :P

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 Besides, if I would be crazy enough to put another species ahead of mine, the asari would be the LAST species I'd pick (well maybe not the last, but certainly not the first)!

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SpiffySquee wrote...

bobdooly wrote...

SpiffySquee wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Which is why if Spiffy would lead the war against the reaper, he would doom humanity unnecessarily. He would sacrifice humanity to save the asari, even though he also could have saved both if he actually had humanity on the top of his priority list.

Man, knowing that your species is doomed because the leader of humanity (Commander Spiffy Shepard) though it doesn't have to be that way... talking about a grim fate. I wouldn't want to be a human if I lived in Spiffy's universe.


Would you stop putting words in my mouth? All I said was that I think they are equally important and that I would save which everyone I had the greater chance of saving. I never said anything about sacrificing humanity when I could save both. You are completely changing your original question and pretending that saving one means saving both.



If you save Asari, humanity dies and asari prospers. If you save humanity, humanity lives to struggle another day and asari survive on all of their colonies. Remember, asari were the first to expand and had the most time.


But that was not the question. Look at the topic of the thread. This infers one lives and one dies. Otherwise where is the debate?



If you are in a room, and you had a gun, and only one of you could survive and escape, who would you choose? It's a basic "you or me". 

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asindre wrote...

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Okay, so you admit that you'll put humanity on top of your priority-list now you know that the asari can suffer billions of casualties and still survive, while humanity would be doomed with billions of casualties?

Where are you getting these numbers?

He's cherry picking the Wiki

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bobdooly wrote...

Ferris95 wrote...

RAF1940 wrote...

Travie wrote...

We would basically turn out like the drell...

Part of the galactic community, but rare to ever see one.


Probably.


Would that be so bad? We would be few but damned respected for our sacrifice.


Just like the quarians are respected for their toughness and absolute refusal to die despite severe adversity.


That's different, the quarians made the geth and struck first instead of being diplomatic with what we're basically a brand new sentient species. The Reapers came out of nowhere (dark space, but whatever) and humanity made a real delibirate sacrifice, not an accidental self-inflicted exile.

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Volus Warlord wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Alright there tough guy, you've been throwing your testosterone all over the thread... provide proof.


Right.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Earth
http://masseffect.wi...wiki/Terra_Nova
http://masseffect.wi...wiki/Eden_Prime
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Human (see "Human Worlds" for a list of all human colonies with links to their respective wiki-page)

You've managed to forget about Bekenstien, theres another 5.4 million, and I am pretty sure theres dozens of other colonies around the expanse. Liara, if I remember right, makes several comments abotu how humans are expanding all over....


Liara is a manipulative blue-skinned moron that cannot be trusted.


I tried to read your post, but I got distracted by your signature.