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[Xilizhra]

Good, just so long as you realize I'll be on the opposite side of the war.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I most certainly agree and will choose the options that will ensure Human hegemony in a post-reaper galaxy. Weakening the Asari is crucial, especially since Humanity will be severily weakened after the destruction of Earth.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 21 août 2011 - 04:05 .

[Yakko77]

iOnlySignIn wrote...


Karl Marx had summarized that all wars are fought for economic reasons. The Carthaginian Empire fought to monopolize the trade of dyes in the Mediterranean. The Dutch Republic fought to monopolize the trade of spices in the East Indies. A certain country in the early 21st century fought to monopolize the trade of oil in the Middle East. Controlling an important resource is essential for the independence and prosperity of a nation.

I don't think the Reapers carry out the mass genocide of billions if not trillions of lives for economic reasons. 

Edit:  Humanity letting the Asari homeworld die for the same reason to gain some upper hand after the war would likely be counter productive to the war effort.

Modifié par Yakko77, 21 août 2011 - 04:06 .

[robarcool]

Well, destroy it if you want. My Shepard(s) will try to save as many species as possible.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Yakko77 wrote...
Edit:  Humanity letting the Asari homeworld die for the same reason to gain some upper hand after the war would likely be counter productive to the war effort.

Depends. I see no necessary corrolation and in the coming war, I see the Asari as mostly useless, as they do not have a real army and do not provide military advantages like the Turians, Salarians and Krogans.

I'd much rather let a militarily efficient species take control of and secure a valuable resource for the war effort, I would not trust the Asari to do that.

[Yakko77]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...


Karl Marx had summarized that all wars are fought for economic reasons. The Carthaginian Empire fought to monopolize the trade of dyes in the Mediterranean. The Dutch Republic fought to monopolize the trade of spices in the East Indies. A certain country in the early 21st century fought to monopolize the trade of oil in the Middle East. Controlling an important resource is essential for the independence and prosperity of a nation.

I don't think the Reapers carry out the mass genocide of billions if not trillions of lives for economic reasons. 

Organics are the most important resource to them.

I thought this would be as blatant as the sun is bright.

Yes, but to sacrifice them during the war effort would likely hurt the war effort towards victory.  It'd be like letting the Germans win against the Soviets during WWII.  Sure, the Soviets are a rival power with differing ideals from tbe other Allies (UK and US) but their contribution was vital towards victory.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.  And the Asari are on relatively friendly terms with humanity IIRC, no need to backstap them.

[robarcool]

Also, I think that this thread must be destroyed. Enough of these hate threads already.

[Kentuckan]

Can't wait until after the galaxy wide cycle of extinction is averted before sticking knives in the back of allies? Besides even if Thessia fell to the reapers before they were defeated I doubt the entirety of the Asari species would be extinguished by them, and those survivors and their allies would fight for control of their home world if humanity just decided to take it one day.

[Yakko77]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...
Edit:  Humanity letting the Asari homeworld die for the same reason to gain some upper hand after the war would likely be counter productive to the war effort.

Depends. I see no necessary corrolation and in the coming war, I see the Asari as mostly useless, as they do not have a real army and do not provide military advantages like the Turians, Salarians and Krogans.

I'd much rather let a militarily efficient species take control of and secure a valuable resource for the war effort, I would not trust the Asari to do that.

Wait, don't the Asari have a large dreadnaught fleet second only to the Turians?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Yakko77 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Depends. I see no necessary corrolation and in the coming war, I see the Asari as mostly useless, as they do not have a real army and do not provide military advantages like the Turians, Salarians and Krogans.

I'd much rather let a militarily efficient species take control of and secure a valuable resource for the war effort, I would not trust the Asari to do that.

Wait, don't the Asari have a large dreadnaught fleet second only to the Turians?

Yes, which can be manned by any other species. Weapons on their own do not form an army, which the Asari do not have: "The asari military resembles a collection of tribal warrior bands with no national structure."
And we have seen historically how inefficient they were agianst the Rachni and Krogans.

It will depend on the situation when I am making that choice. But if victory became likely without Asari help and I had the chance to allow their weakening, I'd let it happen without second thought.

If however the stakes are clearly against us, then no, of course I will seek to preserve the Asari as allies.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 21 août 2011 - 04:18 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

I want humanities role in the galaxy to be much like the United States,we are all equal..until you mess with us in which case we will grind you into the ground.

Humans=USA Turians=GB,very powerful and influential,but one is "more equal" then the other,at least in terms of military might.


I'm babbling,I just want love and peace man.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 21 août 2011 - 04:20 .

[Han Shot First]

How can Humanity take control of this resource rich location? Simple. Sacrifice the Asari to defeat the Reapers. All of them. Let Thessia be burnt do the ground. In the resulting post-war power vacuum, Humanity can rightfully resettle Thessia, as the vanquisher of the Reapers and the savior of the Galaxy.

Sure if the Asari no longer exist.

Realistically resettling Thessia with humans would cause many problems for humanity and possibly war. Consider all the problems today between Israel and Palestine for example, and who has ownership over that land.
 
The Asari also have vast population advantage over humanity, Thessia aside. As a relative newcomber to the galaxy the bulk of humanity's population stil resides on Earth while the bulk of the Asari population would reside on worlds other than their homeworld. They've been exploring the galaxy for millenia. It is also doubtful that the other civilizations of the galaxy would sit by doing nothing while the Alliance transformed itself into an militant expansionist power. This is the former Asari homeworld we are talking about, not some disputed unsettled world on the fringe of Citadel space.

There is another problem with humanity colonizing Thessia: The Asari and all other lifeforms on Thessia both plant and animal evolved in an Eezo rich enviroment and are resistant to it's negative effects. For most humans, it is poisonous.

[DarkDragon777]

You've got to be kidding me. Destroying Thessia would be outrageously retarded and unneeded

[RAF1940]

Did my thread spark this, by any chance?

[Reptillius]

There's potential factors this ignores... like the potential destruction of Thessia as part of the aftermath... The turians taking over Thessia because they are an even more war minded culture than the humans... and a slew of other issues... Your plan has a low success rate.

not to mention the Asari may have one of the smaller militaries but their warriors tend to be a lot more powerful and feared for a reason.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Han Shot First wrote...

Realistically resettling Thessia with humans would cause many problems for humanity and possibly war. Consider all the problems today between Israel and Palestine for example, and who has ownership over that land.

It doesn't have to be permanently resettled. Thessia can be turned into an "international zone" allowing for the "altruistic reparation effort by Humanity" of the planet.

I agree that a complete colonization of Thessia seems to be logistcally impossible in the forseeable future, unless the Asari numbers are significantly reduced.