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Saphra Deden wrote...

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My canon  paragon soldier has a widow,  I am sure he will do fine against any renegades that come after him.


What about your loved ones? They get ya' angry. Then you come at them stupid.


You borrowed that line from a krogan,  besides Liara can defend herself and being the SB she knows when and where to hit you.  Before you know it you will be slammed with a singularity out of nowhere.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

You borrowed that line from a krogan


A smart one.

Desperation breeds recklessness.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

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You borrowed that line from a krogan


A smart one.

Desperation breeds recklessness.



So does a lust for power

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Saphra Deden wrote...

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You borrowed that line from a krogan


A smart one.

Desperation breeds recklessness.


You just like him because he has the same VA as Wreav. :happy:

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Tibet fell to China and has been brutally oppressed since. At least part of their fall to the Chinese is due to their buhdist philosophy of non-aggression, resulting in no feasable military.

Not true. The Tibetans are as self-interested and aggressive as any other culture. They even sacked the capital of China in 763 CE, during a period of instability of China's powerful Tang Dynasty. The Buddhist religion (or more precisely, the Tibetan version of it) is just there to provide stability and spiritual control over the masses, no different from any other religion.  

The reason Tibet was eventually subjugated by China is because its lands cannot sustain a high enough population. This relates to Saphra's point of how the Asari's breeding practices will curb the population growth of other species.

Actually the Chinese also employed similar strategies to the Asari which contributed significantly to their dominance in Asia. They've absorbed countless different ethnicities and cultures into their own through intermarriage. The Huns, the Turks, the Mongols, the Khitans, the Manchus, were all significantly absorbed into Chinese culture and population, with their own cultural and ethnic identities either significantly diminished or utterly destroyed. The Manchus in China today look Chinese, speak Chinese, and behave in ways that are completely Chinese. They were not subjugated through sword and fire - they were subjugated through cultural and ethnic assimilation.

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You renegades do realize that it is going to be hard to set up your evil empire when earth is getting stomped by the reapers.

Not really, as the balance of power shifts more easily in times of war.

Shhhhh. Don't point out such obvious facts. It will make this discussion less fun.

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

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 But, if you let the Reapers wipe out the Asari, there will be a galaxy wide stripper shortage.  My god man, won't someone please think of the stippers?

We are thinking of the strippers. Well, the human ones, at least. Their wages will skyrocket as their craft becomes more scarce!

It's also why we have to save the quarians man.

You do know that stripping poses serious occupational hazards to the Quarians. :blink:

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I don't want to pay a high price for my strippers!Import more of those illeagle alien strippers and bring the price down.

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

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SandTrout wrote...

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 But, if you let the Reapers wipe out the Asari, there will be a galaxy wide stripper shortage.  My god man, won't someone please think of the stippers?

We are thinking of the strippers. Well, the human ones, at least. Their wages will skyrocket as their craft becomes more scarce!

It's also why we have to save the quarians man.

You do know that stripping poses serious occupational hazards to the Quarians. :blink:

On Rannoch.

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 I disagree with you.
My Shepard is 100% paragon, loves the Asari, and will try harder than ever before save all the races in the Galaxy.
Can not wait until Mass Effect 3, I am going to kick Reaper butt and save all the races including the Asari and Thessia!

Modifié par Asari Healer, 08 septembre 2011 - 09:44 .


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If I'm sacrificing anyone, it's the Krogan. They would have done it to themselves anyway, had Salarians not intervened. Batarians too, since they consist of about 95% scumbag pirates and mercs.

Asari were the first space faring race, and the first to find the Citadel. I'd say they warrant a little respect. Although sometimes I think they need to be put in their place...

The rest? I fight for humanity and everyone else.

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Asari suck anyway, I support this war.

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The best way to destroy their monopoly is to find another planet with this much eezo, or force an equal distribution of element zero to all council races through diplomacy. War would utterly foolish.

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Noooo! Save Thessia! Take all the Asari and bring them on Earth as hookers :D

THEN let the human corporations go on Thessia and take all teh ezoos!

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sorentoft wrote...

The best way to destroy their monopoly is to find another planet with this much eezo, or force an equal distribution of element zero to all council races through diplomacy. War would utterly foolish.


I would say the former is more likely than the latter. Using diplomatic means would likely fail since the Asari are long term thinkers and could easily make us Humans think we won but in reality the Asari will end up getting a larger monpoly in the end. War with the Asari would result in us losing. They simply have more Dreadnoughts and ships then we do. Even sacrificing them to the Reapers would make us weaker all over and show to the other alien civs that we are horrible beings worse than the Krogan.

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1136342t54 wrote...

sorentoft wrote...

The best way to destroy their monopoly is to find another planet with this much eezo, or force an equal distribution of element zero to all council races through diplomacy. War would utterly foolish.


I would say the former is more likely than the latter. Using diplomatic means would likely fail since the Asari are long term thinkers and could easily make us Humans think we won but in reality the Asari will end up getting a larger monpoly in the end. War with the Asari would result in us losing. They simply have more Dreadnoughts and ships then we do. Even sacrificing them to the Reapers would make us weaker all over and show to the other alien civs that we are horrible beings worse than the Krogan.


Exactly. That's why we should evacuate as many of them as possible, make them sign contracts for jobs so they can auto-sustain their population ( they'd be a heavy burden on another planet's shoulders), let Thessia get burnt in the process, and blame the jobs being all stripping on a corrupt businessman/politician. 

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1136342t54 wrote...

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The best way to destroy their monopoly is to find another planet with this much eezo, or force an equal distribution of element zero to all council races through diplomacy. War would utterly foolish.


I would say the former is more likely than the latter. Using diplomatic means would likely fail since the Asari are long term thinkers and could easily make us Humans think we won but in reality the Asari will end up getting a larger monpoly in the end. War with the Asari would result in us losing. They simply have more Dreadnoughts and ships then we do. Even sacrificing them to the Reapers would make us weaker all over and show to the other alien civs that we are horrible beings worse than the Krogan.

How would they fool humanity if it was determined that an equal distribution should be given all council races? They would put themselves at risk diplomatically with the Turians and Salarians too if that was the case, and it would be a casus beli for war - with Turian+Salarian support - if they reneged on their promises. That is not saying pushing such a deal would be easy, but getting enough votes to on the basis of 'weaken one, strengthen the many' might just work.

I do however agree that finding a planet with large Element Zero deposits would be more viable.

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sorentoft wrote...

How would they fool humanity if it was determined that an equal distribution should be given all council races? They would put themselves at risk diplomatically with the Turians and Salarians too if that was the case, and it would be a casus beli for war - with Turian+Salarian support - if they reneged on their promises. That is not saying pushing such a deal would be easy, but getting enough votes to on the basis of 'weaken one, strengthen the many' might just work.

I do however agree that finding a planet with large Element Zero deposits would be more viable.


A permanent equal distribution would NEVER happen. Not at all especially as of ME3 since humanity would barely have anything to enforce something like that. Asari could negotiate and make it temporary for a few hundred years. Humans would love that since that is a pretty long time for us. For Asari it isn't much.

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robarcool wrote...

As to the argument of OP that his suggestion is not about hating but a strategic move and all, well try this: Hitler wanted to take over all of the world because he wanted Germany to prosper. So that was not a hate crime and not a genocide at all. Wow! This thread is sick and pointless.


Well techniquely it was only genocide when they started to kill everyone, invasion isnt really a hate crime.

And this isnt a hate thread, its just a quite ingenious hypothetical power grabbing thread

Modifié par sponge56, 09 septembre 2011 - 06:23 .


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What do you plan on destroying Thessia with? Rocks?

Pretty sure the entire alliance fleet is burning in earth orbit.

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1136342t54 wrote...

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How would they fool humanity if it was determined that an equal distribution should be given all council races? They would put themselves at risk diplomatically with the Turians and Salarians too if that was the case, and it would be a casus beli for war - with Turian+Salarian support - if they reneged on their promises. That is not saying pushing such a deal would be easy, but getting enough votes to on the basis of 'weaken one, strengthen the many' might just work.

I do however agree that finding a planet with large Element Zero deposits would be more viable.


A permanent equal distribution would NEVER happen. Not at all especially as of ME3 since humanity would barely have anything to enforce something like that. Asari could negotiate and make it temporary for a few hundred years. Humans would love that since that is a pretty long time for us. For Asari it isn't much.

Nothing is permanent and it was not the goal either. The goal was to disperse the Asari monopoly of Element Zero. An equal distribution model does exactly that. If it was temporary for 200 years, you could be certain that humanity would try to remake the deal, and so would every other race on the council that is not Asari. The Asari would be forced to keep the model or risk a severe political crisis. Please note the deal is for all council races, once signed it is a very tangled web to get out of.

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The best way to destroy their monopoly is to find another planet with this much eezo

Unlikely, as

(1) Such a planet is very likely to develop Biotic lifeforms, which would have evolved into space faring species like the Asari. The fact that we haven't seen them is likely because they are either nonexistent or inaccessible.

(2) Reapers would have noticed such a planet and built a Relay near it, just like they did with Thessia. We haven't discovered this Relay yet, which means it is likely to be nonexistent or inaccessible.

force an equal distribution of element zero to all council races through diplomacy.

Do that to the OPEC. Perhaps they can distribute their oil equally to Europe, the U.S., Japan, and China. That would solve a lot of problems.

Wait... 

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No it does not, it's your opinion in order to shape the galaxy the way you want it to be, it's not a factual statement in any way so please keep the arrogant thread-titles to yourself.

I'll be right there serving all the citadel species (and all other lifeforms I encounter) in order to keep the oath I took as a a Spectre. Enjoy your post-apocalyptic galaxy...

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sorentoft wrote...
Nothing is permanent and it was not the goal either. The goal was to disperse the Asari monopoly of Element Zero. An equal distribution model does exactly that. If it was temporary for 200 years, you could be certain that humanity would try to remake the deal, and so would every other race on the council that is not Asari. The Asari would be forced to keep the model or risk a severe political crisis. Please note the deal is for all council races, once signed it is a very tangled web to get out of.


Even if that would occur (which it won't) the Asari wouldn't let them redistribute it equally. It wouldn't really help them financially. It will only be temporary so that the races can rebuild themselves with the extra eezo. The Asari wouldn't have no reason to continue it after a few hundred years and most races wouldn't mind going back to the old system since its obvious the Asari won't act like humans and use it like a monopoly (I wouldn't even call it a monopoly). 

Also if we assume that eezo is mostly controlled by the government and corporations (which it likely is) then things get a little tricky. There is too much eezo in the Galaxy to say that the Asari controlls all of it. They probably have large enough reserves in which they controll a good chunk of it. The rest is divied up between corporations and governments of the other races. 

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i agree to an extent.. i want humanity's position in the post war climate to be extremely secure... a little revenge for the first contact war for starters