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[robarcool]

Pointless thread. Pointless.

[didymos1120]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

So your argument must be based on the assumption that the Asari are somehow special. Every other race can die, but they are untouchable.

With the exception of the rachni and Collectors, none of those amounted to wiping out the race. The overall status quo of the setting in all instances is preserved.  Plus the rachni started off extinct anyway, and the Collectors were doomed by the plot, not by any choice of ours (same with the Heretics actually: either way you choose, they gone.  Same goes for those batarians: plot demand, not player choice).

Modifié par didymos1120, 21 août 2011 - 05:20 .

[LucidStrike]

jlb524 wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...
So fellow Humans, now is our time to take our rightful place in the Galaxy.

No.

jlb! </off topic because I demand it>

[jlb524]

LucidStrike wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...
So fellow Humans, now is our time to take our rightful place in the Galaxy.

No.

jlb! </off topic because I demand it>

Hey there Lucid!  Long time no see

[robarcool]

As to the argument of OP that his suggestion is not about hating but a strategic move and all, well try this: Hitler wanted to take over all of the world because he wanted Germany to prosper. So that was not a hate crime and not a genocide at all. Wow! This thread is sick and pointless.

Modifié par robarcool, 21 août 2011 - 05:20 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Yakko77 wrote...
Didn't the Prothians essentially control the entire galaxy and they were still wiped out along with every species before before them every 50K years for literally millions of years.  Only one other Reaper that we know of has been destroyed (derelict Reaper mission in ME2) and even that one is millions of years old.

The other Council races tend to tow the technological line that the Reapers want organics to follow.  Humanity, for all its flaws can think outside the box.

Because the Reapers struck at the Citadel and controlled all mass relays as a result. I'd say that's a much more efficient shock and awe tactic, than attacking every single homeworld individually.

But it would be weird if the Reapers don't try to take over the Citadel immediately when the war starts.

Honestly though, until now I do not see how the Reapers are going to lose, unless they act like idiots, or there is some deux ex machina.

[Yakko77]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...
Didn't the Prothians essentially control the entire galaxy and they were still wiped out along with every species before before them every 50K years for literally millions of years.  Only one other Reaper that we know of has been destroyed (derelict Reaper mission in ME2) and even that one is millions of years old.

The other Council races tend to tow the technological line that the Reapers want organics to follow.  Humanity, for all its flaws can think outside the box.

Because the Reapers struck at the Citadel and controlled all mass relays as a result. I'd say that's a much more efficient shock and awe tactic, than attacking every single homeworld individually.

But it would be weird if the Reapers don't try to take over the Citadel immediately when the war starts.

Honestly though, until now I do not see how the Reapers are going to lose, unless they act like idiots, or there is some deux ex machina.

I believe Vigil on Ilos explains this.  The Reaper initially start with the Citadel and then over the cource of a century or two they systematically wipe out every other ME using system.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Yakko77 wrote...

I believe Vigil on Ilos explains this.  The Reaper initially start with the Citadel and then over the cource of a century or two they systematically wipe out every other ME using system.

Yes, I know, but after they wiped out the entire government and took control of all mass relays. The attack on the Citadel is very incapacitating, more so than the loss of individual homeworlds, imo.

So I will be very surprised if the Reapers don't take the citadel asap.

[Esbatty]

My Shepard is gonna go out of her way to spare/save as many species as possible. The sacking of Thessia is a no go. If she's gonna let the Asari get wiped out she wouldn't have blown up the Collector Base or flipped off The Illusive Man.

[Dave of Canada]

Hell, taking the Citadel is probably the greatest advantage they'd ever get even if they didn't have the element of surprise. Shut down all the relays and the galaxy is screwed.

[Sepewrath]

I don't think humans can live on Thessia, the place is poison to foreign species. Also no one would allow someone to just take Thessia, if the Asari are gone, its up for grabs and everyone will make a play.

[CroGamer002]

didymos1120 wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

So your argument must be based on the assumption that the Asari are somehow special. Every other race can die, but they are untouchable.

With the exception of the rachni and Collectors, none of those amounted to wiping out the race. The overall status quo of the setting in all instances is preserved.  Plus the rachni started off extinct anyway, and the Collectors were doomed by the plot, not by any choice of ours (same with the Heretics actually: either way you choose, they gone.  Same goes for those batarians: plot demand, not player choice).

You can sell Legion to Cerberus.
You can to choose not to do Legion LM and beat the game.

[Zarathiel]

yorkj86 wrote...

Earth must be destroyed.

(We all know the Super Special Plot Device is there, though.)

I disagree. If there is a Super Speical Plot Device at all, I'm 99% sure TIM or at least has information needed to get it.

Modifié par Zarathiel, 21 août 2011 - 06:32 .

[Shockwave81]

I really didn't want to reply to this thread, because it is pointless, but here goes anyway.

Sacrifice the Asari to the Reapers so humans can take over Thessia? You do realise that they want to wipe out every space-faring species in the galaxy, right? The only vacuum left if the Reapers manage to complete their invasion.will be the void of space itself. They're not going to do humanity any favours.

This thread is just...ughh...

[Yakko77]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

I believe Vigil on Ilos explains this.  The Reaper initially start with the Citadel and then over the cource of a century or two they systematically wipe out every other ME using system.

Yes, I know, but after they wiped out the entire government and took control of all mass relays. The attack on the Citadel is very incapacitating, more so than the loss of individual homeworlds, imo.

So I will be very surprised if the Reapers don't take the citadel asap.

Yeah, you'd think it'd still be a priority target.  Maybe ME3 will involve destroying the Citadel to keep the Reapers from using it to shut down the relay network.  Whether or not you can evacuate a large number of its population prior to its destruction depends on how you play it .

[marshalleck]

robarcool wrote...

As to the argument of OP that his suggestion is not about hating but a strategic move and all, well try this: Hitler

and there's our Godwin. unless I missed one earlier

[Nashiktal]

Even if Thessia is destroyed, the Asari will be fine. Hell their race is much more survivable than humanity naturally, any leg up we can get is welcome.

I mean seriously, if humanity was left with only one member left... we are ****ed.

The Asari? They can reproduce with pretty much anything alive, they live to be around 1000 naturally, they can kill with their minds... Its stacked against us people.

[GodWood]

marshalleck wrote...

robarcool wrote...
As to the argument of OP that his suggestion is not about hating but a strategic move and all, well try this: Hitler

and there's our Godwin. unless I missed one earlier

There's been a couple actually.

LucidStrike wrote...
...So you folks aren't even goin' to pretend not to be Neo-Notzees?

Prince of Kemet wrote...
I will thoroughly enjoy watching you die a horrible, bloody, painful, slow death in the failed attempt. Hey is your first name adolph?

[marshalleck]

it's hard to compete with a Mary Sue fanservice race

[KotorEffect3]

This is getting ridculous. Renegades are on another power trip.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The Asari have planets other than Thessia. If all life on Thessia is destroyed the asari will still have the rightful claim to that world. Unless you plan on trying to hunt down and eradicate all asari in the hopes to get their planets resources all while the reapers are killing everyone. Humanity is in a fight for it's existence, you have no time for any silly eezo disputes.

If you;d still want to take over Thessia with the asari still on it, then that doesn't even really involve the reapers at all. The question would remain whether the reapers would be around in the story or not. It almost sounds like you would have preferred an entirely different series of games about humanity subjugating all alien life.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 21 août 2011 - 07:50 .

[Golden Owl]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

What is the galaxy's most important resource? Element Zero.

Where is this resource most concentrated? Thessia.

This is the cornerstone of the Asari dominance of Galactic economy and politics - they can single-handed control the price of Element Zero via effective monopoly. This is also very likely the environmental cause for the Asari's abundant Biotic potential, and the material source of their cultural arrogance and sense of superiority. If Humanity take over Thessia, all those advantages will be ours. Now is a best time to do that ever.

How can Humanity take control of this resource rich location? Simple. Sacrifice the Asari to defeat the Reapers. All of them. Let Thessia be burnt do the ground. In the resulting post-war power vacuum, Humanity can rightfully resettle Thessia, as the vanquisher of the Reapers and the savior of the Galaxy.

Karl Marx had summarized that all wars are fought for economic reasons. The Carthaginian Empire fought to monopolize the trade of dyes in the Mediterranean. The Dutch Republic fought to monopolize the trade of spices in the East Indies. A certain country in the early 21st century fought to monopolize the trade of oil in the Middle East. Controlling an important resource is essential for the independence and prosperity of a nation.

So fellow Humans, now is our time to take our rightful place in the Galaxy. In the immortal words of Cato the Elder,

Thessia Delenda Est!

Soooo....we just keep making the same pitiful mistakes we always make....absolutley zero growth in human wisdom?....Please don't make me happy to have humanity burn, I generally like people regardless of our overly selfish, one dimensional idiocy.

[Dave of Canada]

So... by leaving opposing armies stable and forcing us to deal with their financial demands for resources we'd need and their potential invasion on all humans, while trying to rebuild after our homeworld's destruction, doesn't count as "one dimensional idiocy"?

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 21 août 2011 - 07:59 .