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[Humanoid_Typhoon]

I just like the title of this thread,pretty epic.

"Thessia must be destroyed John Connor."

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 21 août 2011 - 08:35 .

[Dave of Canada]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I bet we paragons end up saving more humans than the renegades do since we will be coming back to earth with a bigger army.

How many would die after the war due to your foolishness, though?

"Oh hey turians, you want to invade us? No worries, bro. Just come help us out! :D"

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 21 août 2011 - 08:35 .

[Golden Owl]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I bet we paragons end up saving more humans than the renegades do since we will be coming back to earth with a bigger army.

Actually, though I am a staunch Paragon, I really hope this isn't the case....the staunch paragon is in fact quite naive in many respects and I do expect that naivity to bite Paragons in the *ss at some point in ME3 and would be dissappointed if all Renegades get in ME3 are constant kicks in the *ss for their own decisions.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Maybe a few kicks in the ass for renegade decisions.*Cough CB cough*,stuff like letting David stay in the Overlord,add more Geth enemies,give renegades some extra content.

[Arppis]

Dave of Canada wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I bet we paragons end up saving more humans than the renegades do since we will be coming back to earth with a bigger army.

How many would die after the war due to your foolishness, though?

"Oh hey turians, you want to invade us? No worries, bro. Just come help us out! :D"

Paragons still defend themselves, but they seek better sollutions. No need to nuke other races just to make sure that they don't threathen us in any possible futures.

[Seboist]

marshalleck wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Seboist wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

This is getting ridculous. Renegades are on another power trip.

How so? It's like didymos said; none of this will ever happen in the game. Bioware aren't going to spend years building the IP just to let players trash it.

Which is why I doubt it's possible to make the Rachni or any other race extinct.

Indeed. It's still fun to troll paragons though with renegade crypto-fascism. 

How lucky for us that all we need to do is remember the likelihood of us getting a better victory in the end.

There's no doubt about that; Bioware have proven time and time again that writing a decent anti-hero scenario is beyond their capability. They're really good at the naive idealistic lawful good paladin tripe though.

Not only that but their system is way too one dimensional and doesn't take into account the motivations a player could have. They don't factor that one's Shepard could be role played as a Citadel Council loyalist who kills the Rachni queen and destroys the genophage data out of concern for galactic security not because they're a human supremacist. Alternatively someone can roleplay a Shepard who spares the Queen and keeps the data due to wanting human allies against the three Council races(which is what I did).

The morality system is a freaking joke.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

We should unleash the Vorcha on Thessia.

[Dave of Canada]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

We should unleash the Vorcha on Thessia.

Asari aren't worthy of that honor.

[Seboist]

Speaking of Asari and Vorcha, there's a CDN story about some movie involving an Asari wanting to learn about her Vorcha father's life story.

http://masseffect.wi..._-_January_2011

01/21/2011 - Audiences Flock to See "Patriots" and "Dr. Kepral" This Week

“The weekend's box office is in, and awards season is in full swing.
"Patriots", the true story of a human serving with the salarian navy
stationed at Jaeto, netted a comfy 2.3 billion credits, while tearjerker
biopic "Dr. Kepral" came in a close second at 2.24 billion. "May to
December" examines an asari girl on a quest to learn the life story of
her vorcha father, pulling a respectable 1.88 billion; and the ambitious
remake of "All Souls' Rising" brings forth Earth's Haitian revolution
in all its flawed glory, holding firm at 1.75 billion in its third week.
On the lighter side, the slapstick "We the Sheeple" skewered just about
every visible galactic politician for a modest 1.28 billion. Described
by the producers as "all the laughs you expect from Orwell's 'Animal
Farm' before you actually read it," the comedy is down 600 million from
its opening weekend.”

Modifié par Seboist, 21 août 2011 - 08:56 .

[Homebound]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Frankly, you're all in the right mindset but you're missing the point. The asari aren't a threat because of their tight control over the biggest eezo deposit in the galaxy. What makes them dangerous is their longevity and reproductive practices which have enabled them to wage a long and successful culture war against the rest of the galaxy.

Asari "virtues" are held in high esteem by virtually every race save for possibly the batarians. Their longevity gives them an advantage in economics and politics because it lets them successfully employ long-term strategies over many alien generations. In 500 years more than a dozen humans or turians or salarians will come and go, each with their own vision for how to move forward. The asari however will stay with one cabal that entire time, ensuring their success because they rarely need to "start over" or "switch gears". They can stay on one path long.

On the reproductive end, the asari encourage every member to go out and mate with an alien. Any alien who stays with an asari for life will produce no children of its own... but the asari will. This eventually lowers the birthrate of any species in close contact with asari whilst increasing the asari birthrate. When you consider this it is no surprise that the asari are so widespread and affluent.

The eezo is just one more reason why we need to cull their species and isolate the survivors.

but they r our genetic destiny!

[Seboist]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Frankly, you're all in the right mindset but you're missing the point. The asari aren't a threat because of their tight control over the biggest eezo deposit in the galaxy. What makes them dangerous is their longevity and reproductive practices which have enabled them to wage a long and successful culture war against the rest of the galaxy.

Asari "virtues" are held in high esteem by virtually every race save for possibly the batarians. Their longevity gives them an advantage in economics and politics because it lets them successfully employ long-term strategies over many alien generations. In 500 years more than a dozen humans or turians or salarians will come and go, each with their own vision for how to move forward. The asari however will stay with one cabal that entire time, ensuring their success because they rarely need to "start over" or "switch gears". They can stay on one path long.

On the reproductive end, the asari encourage every member to go out and mate with an alien. Any alien who stays with an asari for life will produce no children of its own... but the asari will. This eventually lowers the birthrate of any species in close contact with asari whilst increasing the asari birthrate. When you consider this it is no surprise that the asari are so widespread and affluent.

The eezo is just one more reason why we need to cull raze their homeworld, cull their species, and isolate the survivors.

Their racialist eugenic doctrine is a great threat that not many take into account. They become stronger at the expense of others.

[SandTrout]

Seboist wrote...

Their racialist eugenic doctrine is a great threat that not many take into account. They become stronger at the expense of others.

This is probably the most underrated subtle aspect of ME, and possibly one of the most unique aspects.

Calling for an outright culling of the species sets a dangerous precedent that could potentially be more dangerous to our species than what possible gains we might achieve. That said, they are still the lowest priority on my 'save the galaxy to-do list', except Batarians.

[Golden Owl]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Frankly, you're all in the right mindset but you're missing the point. The asari aren't a threat because of their tight control over the biggest eezo deposit in the galaxy. What makes them dangerous is their longevity and reproductive practices which have enabled them to wage a long and successful culture war against the rest of the galaxy.

Asari "virtues" are held in high esteem by virtually every race save for possibly the batarians. Their longevity gives them an advantage in economics and politics because it lets them successfully employ long-term strategies over many alien generations. In 500 years more than a dozen humans or turians or salarians will come and go, each with their own vision for how to move forward. The asari however will stay with one cabal that entire time, ensuring their success because they rarely need to "start over" or "switch gears". They can stay on one path long.

On the reproductive end, the asari encourage every member to go out and mate with an alien. Any alien who stays with an asari for life will produce no children of its own... but the asari will. This eventually lowers the birthrate of any species in close contact with asari whilst increasing the asari birthrate. When you consider this it is no surprise that the asari are so widespread and affluent.

The eezo is just one more reason why we need to cull raze their homeworld, cull their species, and isolate the survivors.

I agree with every point except the culling......And if Asari were a real scenerio, I would in fact have a problem with their encouraging our species to breed with theirs for reasons pointed out above....In game, my Shep does not hook up with Liara...it is a bad idea from pure procreation point of view.

[Barquiel]

I'd rather destroy earth.

[Seboist]

SandTrout wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Their racialist eugenic doctrine is a great threat that not many take into account. They become stronger at the expense of others.

This is probably the most underrated subtle aspect of ME, and possibly one of the most unique aspects.

Indeed it is, it's what prevents the Asari from being a completely boring mary sue race.

[Wulfram]

The Salarians are still going strong after a 2500 years of contact with the Asari, the Turians after more than 1000.

You're not going to outbreed people if it takes you 350 years before you have kids - and the Asari don't seem to have particularly large families, either. Particularly since young asari tend to go out into the galaxy and pick dangerous jobs.

[SandTrout]

Barquiel wrote...

I'd rather destroy earth.

Seek mental help, because you have problems.

Modifié par SandTrout, 21 août 2011 - 11:33 .

[Barquiel]

SandTrout wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

I'd rather destroy earth.

Seek mental help, because you have problems.

Yeah...because of a video game - sure<_<

It's more than obvious who has problems here...

[SandTrout]

Barquiel wrote...

Yeah...because of a video game - sure<_<

It's more than obvious who has problems here...

More to the issue is that it is a role playing game, and your statements reflect a great deal of self-hate and self-destructive tendencies.

[Wulfram]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Salarians don't have a sex drive and 1000 years isn't that long. Recall that 1000 is only one asari life-time. Give it another few thousand years and see where we are.

I don't think the asari will ever breed the other races into extinction really, but they'll inhibit their growth. The asari are the most populous race in the galaxy and nearly every single asari who has children does so with an alien, who many of them will marry for "life".

Salarians have a sex drive where the Asari are concerned.

Committing a galactic scale genocide because of some theory that sex with hot alien spaces babes might mean that there's only 50,000,000,000 rather than 100,000,000,000 humans in 2000 years seems more than a bit nuts.  Particularly since we could just choose to have more babies, if we really thought population growth was an important objective for our species.

[Barquiel]

SandTrout wrote...

More to the issue is that it is a role playing game, and your statements reflect a great deal of self-hate and self-destructive tendencies.

There's no self-hate involved.
Mass Effect 2 made me anti-human ("humans are too special")...but only in the Mass Effect universe^_^

If you want a rp explanation...
My Shepard no longer feels a political obligation to her species since the Alliance discharged her, and she has no family she feels an obligation to (except, well, Liara). Shepards children will be asari too.

But let's try to stay civil/no personal attacks...ok?

Modifié par Barquiel, 21 août 2011 - 12:28 .

[Arppis]

Seems like it's hate on both sides. Why not accept all the races as they are, with their flaws and strenghts? They all have those. And yes, I'm sure they will be useful in the war as long as they are ready to help. Earth doesn't save itself and galaxy needs to pull together if it wants to succeed.

[Ausstig]

I say turn it into a strip mine ALL HAIL BRITANNIA