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Why is Pride the strongest?


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Di-Hydrogen-Monoxide

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In my experience people are more likely to do incredibly stupid things due to pride but it seems most of the really evil or twisted acts occur because of people's desires and greed. 

Pride is far less influtential over a large group of people than desire but is also more readily resisted by an individual. For every person who does something stupid or malicious out of wounded pride there is another who can act rationally, but if offered their heart's desire, the very thing they strive for every day, few people could resist that.

So why then is Pride the strongest form of demon that we know of? It's never made sense to me especially because of the few Pride abominations we meet in the games, they are often seem to be driven by Pride as much as Desire, for example the Baroness; she kills young women and uses blood magic to prolong her youthfulness and life, she is driven by her pride in her appearance as much as her desire to be beautiful and live forever.

As a side note do you think there are stronger demons above Pride and Desire?

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David Gaider

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Boiny Bunny wrote...
I would argue that the hierarchy of demons appear to be named in order of escalating complexity and evolution. 


This is essentially it, though the hierarchy itself is a construct of human observers and nothing that the demons themselves abide by. There is room for nuance among the demons-- you could, for instance, encounter a powerful Rage demon that focused on Retribution... a very powerful and complex motivation beyond simple anger. On the flip side, you could find a much less powerful Desire demon that focused simply on Lust. The more complex the demon's demesne, the more psychic "territory" it possesses in the Fade and thus the more powerful it becomes.

There are also some demonic "groups" that haven't been placed on that heirarchy (primarily because we didn't want to discuss demons we weren't going to show), but they definitely exist: Fear, Despair, Envy and Remorse being the primary. These are often looked on as sub-groups of the other types, but the demons would likely disagree with such an assessment (they're a territorial bunch).
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David Gaider

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t0mm06 wrote...
The easiest way of looking at this is, rage can cause a man, in the heat of the moment, to stike down his wife and kill her. Pride causes empires to be built on mass slavery and the death of innocens.


Oh, I don't know. Rage can make you build things. I've seen a few YouTube videos that were mostly constructed from it, after all, and there's a few folks in and around these forums that seem to sustain themselves on it. I don't know that this necessarily debunks it as a lesser form of demonic motivation, however. :)