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[Ieldra]

I'm thinking of this Sur'kesh mission in the ME3 demo. The female krogan represents a genophage cure, does she not? And I am asking myself, do I really want to do that?

Of course, in the face of the Reaper threat I may not have a choice, but I feel this is one decision that may come back to haunt the galaxy after the Reapers are defeated. I wonder if we'll get an option to avoid that.

[Da_Lion_Man]

First.

[crimzontearz]

uh...yes, yes we do

[Aaleel]

Yep.

[Locutus_of_BORG]

My Sheploo would hit that Krogan Princess. So sure, I'll cure it. At least in that PT.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 21 août 2011 - 08:26 .

[Wulfram]

Some one will cure the Genophage eventually - after all, Shepard has randomly stumbled across two fairly credible cure attempts without even trying.

Better it's Shepard than someone like Saren or Weyrlock Guld.

If you're not going to cure them, you need to wipe them out totally.

[KingNothing125]

Curing the genophage doesn't strike me as particularly helpful in the near-term. It might help if the war were coming in a few decades or however long it takes a krogan to reach maturity... but the Reapers are here, reaping, now. What are the newly-fertile krogan going to do? Squirt out babies at them?

I imagine curing the genophage would be some sort of goodwill gesture to win the loyalty of existing krogan.

But yeah, no, I don't think it's a good idea. They're a stubborn, belligerent, aggressive race that should still be stuck on that nuke-blasted hell-hole of a planet. The only way I could see it being a good idea is if Wrex's reforms fundamentally change krogan culture. But somehow I doubt it will.

[Kalak]

Yes, cure it.

[azerSheppard]

Wulfram wrote...

Some one will cure the Genophage eventually - after all, Shepard has randomly stumbled across two fairly credible cure attempts without even trying.

Better it's Shepard than someone like Saren or Weyrlock Guld.

If you're not going to cure them, you need to wipe them out totally.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

The promise of a cure would probably bolster in hope for the existing krogan,the reason they are so downdraught and angry is because they think they are going extinct,which is the reason they slowly are,its more of a motivator

[Aumata]

The krogan going extinct is on them for not breeding. Wrex said it, and Mordin basically tells you that the genophage is design to slow their birthrates down. Krogan are hyperagressive, why the hell would would anyone want to have them breed to the point of the hoard number is beyond me.

[Someone With Mass]

It's either that or extinction.

[Kalak]

KingNothing125 wrote...

But yeah, no, I don't think it's a good idea. They're a stubborn, belligerent, aggressive race that should still be stuck on that nuke-blasted hell-hole of a planet. The only way I could see it being a good idea is if Wrex's reforms fundamentally change krogan culture. But somehow I doubt it will.

...actually, you run across a fair amount of reasonable krogan, particularly in ME2.  Think about that krogan on Ilium representing Mr. Thax, or the two arguing on the Citadel about fish.  Or what about the lovesick, poetry-reciting krogan over by the gift shop?  

Sure, they're large, dangerous reptiles that are generally bad-tempered and very hard to kill, but at the same time, not every krogan is a vicious murderer or a neo-Darwinian sociopath, a la Kredak or Okeer.

[Robhuzz]

This will be one of the tougher decisions of ME3. We may need the Krogan desperately to stop the reapers so not curing them may result in defeat, making it a distinctly bad option. Visiting Tuchanka in ME2 showed a lot (if not all except a few individual) of the krogan still wanted revenge. So if the Genophage is cured they will almost certainly expand and attack again, it's in their nature. Even if the current Krogan will be thankful to Shepard for curing them, in a few generations I doubt they will care any longer and will revert back to fighting other races.

The eldest of the Krogan (among Wrex) witnessed part of the Krogan rebellions and so know full well what the other races are capable of doing. Perhaps the threat of the Salarians reinventing the Genophage would be enough to keep them in line but it's impossible to know at this point.

If anything, I'd give this cure to Wrex only so he can distribute it only to friendly clans he knows support his 'new ways' and add the warning that Wrex has to keep the Krogan in line somehow as the next time the Krogan attack other races, the Salarians may not be so nice.

[furryrage59]

I'll cure it without hesitation.

[bioticfu]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I'm thinking of this Sur'kesh mission in the ME3 demo. The female krogan represents a genophage cure, does she not? And I am asking myself, do I really want to do that?

Of course, in the face of the Reaper threat I may not have a choice, but I feel this is one decision that may come back to haunt the galaxy after the Reapers are defeated. I wonder if we'll get an option to avoid that.

I say cure it, and dont tell them that you did, it'll be like, "Surprise!  You're not gonna die..."


Also someone mentioned the reasonable Krogans.... was it just me or were they the most frightening?  I mean.... Wrex.. Grunt and the others were like  "RAWRGH!!!"  but the courier for Mr. Thax was WAAAAAAAAAY too polite... and the poetry guy...  yea I almost died right there.

Modifié par bioticfu, 21 août 2011 - 08:48 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

I'd cure it and not tell anybody. I mean I fear the same thing could happen with the krogan, but I like them too much not to help them out.

Regarding Mr. Thax, if anybody ever kills Shepard, it will be him. He will politely invite you into his home for some tea and then he will rip off your limbs and bludgeon you to death with them in a feat of blood rage.

[Bring_the_rain]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

First.

LOL

[Candidate 88766]

Cure them. If the Krogan can help defeat the Reapers, they'll have redeemed themselves for their actions during the Rebellions and will have earned their place in galactic society. If they aren't able to help defeat the Reapers, or are lost during the war, then its a moot point. It may be dangerous in the long run, but the long run is looking pretty bleak with the Reapers at the galaxy's doorstep.

Having said that, I'm not sure what Reapers can actually do. I guess they'd be useful at fighting Reaper ground forces - i.e. husks - but because they're banned from having any kind of fleet I don't imagine they'll be instrumental in defeating the Reapers. The war will be won or lost in space battles.

Of course, I would only cure them if Wrex is in charge. I think he'd be able to put them on the right course.

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 21 août 2011 - 08:55 .

[EarthAlliance]

i am pretty sure that the krogan princess that shepard will rescue in sur'kesh will be important to unite tuchanka,not cure the genophage.

[bioticfu]

ReconTeam wrote...

I'd cure it and not tell anybody. I mean I fear the same thing could happen with the krogan, but I like them too much not to help them out.

Regarding Mr. Thax, if anybody ever kills Shepard, it will be him. He will politely invite you into his home for some tea and then he will rip off your limbs and bludgeon you to death with them in a feat of blood rage.

And he'd do it with his pinky out, without spilling a drop of tea... just like Vice-Cardinal Ferdinand Daxus.

[Homey C-Dawg]

I don't want to cure the genophage. I like the krogan, they have way too much natural coolness to let die out, but if they return to full natural breeding numbers, they will try to take over the galaxy again. I don't believe that Wrex's unification ideas will stop that. In fact, I think that would make them more effective at it.

They aren't responsible enough as a race to be trusted with their full power. My "bleeding heart" feeling for their situation (and I do feel bad for them) isn't enough to cause me to doom the entire galaxy, not after I just saved it.

I'd rather find a way to change the genophage so all female krogans can only develop one fetus at a time, to avoid the 1000's of miscarriages and infertile females that have such a negative psychological effect on the krogan. Maybe I can get Mordin on that.

If something like that is not possible, then genophage stays. 1 in 1000. Prefect balance. Like gardening.

[JoeLaTurkey]

If Wrex is in charge and his reforms are working then yes.

Unless these standards are met then, no. Never.