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[jlb524]

Luigitornado wrote...

I want Bioware to rid ME of the class system, renegade/paragon system, and leveling system. All are limitations of how I want to play the game, and only decrease the amount of options that limit the amount of my play throughs. 

Why not answer my question about the Garrus romance?

Luigitornado wrote...
With balanced limitations comes diversifications, that offer incentives for players to play a differently during their second play through. Once players realize that their choices do not shape on the game, then there is no incentive to play the game again.

It depends on the choices presented.  I know I have the choice to play full Renegade, but I won't b/c I don't like it.  I have the choice to play as a Soldier, but I won't b/c I hate the class...luckily there are other options.

I don't do hetero romances, so if that's all there are, I'm not motivated to replay.

I am not a completionist gamer in that I have to replay to see every possible combo of the game.  I want to play as my ideal PC.

Luigitornado wrote...
Not to mention that limitations in story -- including romances, gives Bioware the tools for a more compelling narrative with different reactionaries: Jack saying no to FemShep.

Yeah, that was sooo compelling.

[shepskisaac]

IsaacShep wrote...

Casey Hudson tweeted...

Some game sites saying "previously straight chars now available for both m&f chars" not necessarily true. Will have some new LI's in #ME3
twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/70154686367404032

Mac Walters tweeted...

Some, but not all characters will be available for same sex relationships.
twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/102503866595160066

I'm just gonna keep posting this until Luigitornado stops trying to dereail the topic with his desperate 'zomg not all bi!!!" argument

[Rinji the Bearded]

Luigitornado wrote...
The differences of the play through becomes null becasuse there are no incentives. Dialogue would stay the same, and the changes would be soulless. 

The game is diversified by renegade/paragon choices and various plot points, not by the completely optional romances.

You want diversity by forcing it down people's throats?  LOL.

[shepskisaac]

Luigitornado wrote...

If they are into playing roleplaying games, then it will.

Hell to the no. RPGs are about playing the role the way the PLAYERS want, not the way the author wants. You have linear action/TPP/FPS games for that. There are quadrillion options in RPGs precisely for the sake of allowing the players to play as THEY WANT. Got it finally?

Modifié par IsaacShep, 22 août 2011 - 07:41 .

[Zkyire]

The Uncanny wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

According to research *snip*

The point is that if you're talking about fairness, and what is 'deserved' or whatever, then look at real-world  demographics.

Nice try but irrelevant.

I didn't use the word 'fairness'. You did. I didn't use the word 'deserved'. You did.

Real world demographics have nothing to do with it. I'm talking about choice. Simple as that.

Oh yay. Attitude. That's fun.

In case you didn't notice then I never actually addressed any of your points.

I do it often. I quote people, make my own post and never actually address theirs. Why? Because soemtimes I click "quote" instead of the quick reply.

Is it a flaw in my posting style? Yes.

Does it occasionally cause something like this? Yes.

Do I care to correct it? Not really.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Again, I'm going to ask why this thread isn't on the character/romance board?

[Nashiktal]

Luigitornado wrote...

bleetman wrote...

I'm sorry, I'm somewhat slow in the head. You'll have to explain something for me.

Hypothetical: There are six crew members available for romance. Three are male, three are female. Romancing them all would require six playthroughs, three of each gender.

There are six crew members available for romance. Three are male, three are female. Romancing them all would require six playthroughs, between one and six for each gender.

...And this is supposed to discourage repeat playthroughs... how? I'd not consider what gender the player character was as some defining diversifying factor myself, both Shepards are the same person with different voices.

The differences of the play through becomes null becasuse there are no incentives. Dialogue would stay the same, and the changes would be soulless. 

So the dialogue between romancing six individual personalities would be... the exact same? I don't get what you are arguing here. 

What you are saying if, in me2 I romanced tali... I have no incentive in any other playthroughs to romance miranda?

[Zkyire]

lightsnow13 wrote...

This is all rather frustrating.

There WILL be s/s romances in ME3. No amount of whining will change the game. Regardless, we still don't know who we will be able to romance and who won't be available. Everyone should just relax and not worry about a feature they will or will not be using.

The common saying that people just can't seem to grasp - if you want a s/s romance choose so. If not, then don't. Simple to understand.

Bioware has already bowed to pressure related to the romances.

They dumbed them down after the FOX News thing from ME1.

Garrus and Tali were made LIs because of whining (and I'm a Talimancer).

So, they might.

[M8DMAN]

The way Bioware handled s/s romances in DA 2 was horrible!

Garrus trying to flirt with my Male Shepard is something I do NOT want to see in ME 3.

[Pups_of_war_76]

What's going on in here?

[jlb524]

lightsnow13 wrote...

This is all rather frustrating.

There WILL be s/s romances in ME3. No amount of whining will change the game. Regardless, we still don't know who we will be able to romance and who won't be available. Everyone should just relax and not worry about a feature they will or will not be using.

The common saying that people just can't seem to grasp - if you want a s/s romance choose so. If not, then don't. Simple to understand.

The issue is that people don't want their fave LI from a previous game to be open to s/s romance in ME3 b/c they will be 'tainted 4evr' and Shepard will catch 'teh gay' germ from them or something...

Some are also worried that all LIs will be bisexual (even though it's been confirmed to be untrue) like 'dat evul DA2 game' and give convoluted reasons for why that would be bad.

Modifié par jlb524, 22 août 2011 - 07:57 .

[Carfax]

I'm glad Bioware isn't going down the same road as DA2 with going overboard on the homosexuality, because that would make them open to the same backlash.

A lot of people don't care to see homosexuality when they're playing video games, while many obviously want it in their games.

The best thing for Bioware to do would be to leave previous characters and their sexual orientation unchanged, while making new characters available for S/S.

That would be fair to both groups I believe.

[M8DMAN]

IsaacShep wrote...

Once again, why are you even discussing 'all bi' scenario? This is NOT going to happen in ME3.

Casey Hudson tweeted...

Some game sites saying "previously straight chars now available for both m&f chars" not necessarily true. Will have some new LI's in #ME3
twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/70154686367404032

Mac Walters tweeted...

Some, but not all characters will be available for same sex relationships.
twitter.com/#!/macwalterslives/status/102503866595160066

I'm just gonna keep posting this until Luigitornado stops trying to dereail the topic with his desperate 'zomg not all bi!!!" argument

Thanks for posting that Isaac. I wish some people would read this before posting the same crap ad nauseum

[M8DMAN]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Carfax wrote...

I'm glad Bioware isn't going down the same road as DA2 with going overboard on the homosexuality, because that would make them open to the same backlash.

A lot of people don't care to see homosexuality when they're playing video games, while many obviously want it in their games.

The best thing for Bioware to do would be to leave previous characters and their sexual orientation unchanged, while making new characters available for S/S.

That would be fair to both groups I believe.

Oh god the DA2 arguments.

This forum is so sad I might cry.

Dragon Age 2 was so sad It made me cry.

[Sundance31us]

Pups_of_war_76 wrote...
What's going on in here?

I'd make a new image, but I'm nowhere near my images or tools.

[Cartims]

Ugh, I can't stand the fact of having bisexuals in my game....no way, my characters will only go with one sex.....their own.....bring on the ******'s

[M8DMAN]

[shepskisaac]

M8DMAN wrote...

Thanks for posting that Isaac. I wish some people would read this before posting the same crap ad nauseum

Sorry to say that but your previous "DA2 s/s romances were oh-so horrible!" post falls in the same category...