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[Deejtage]

Rezources wrote...

This thread is gay.

Ohh, puns!

[ipgd]

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...
Judeo-Christian philosophy is clear regarding homosexuality and Ashley seems devout. No, it wouldn't make sense at all for her to be a lesbian.

So there are no Judeo-Christian homosexuals?

If they practice homosexual behavior, no.

Last time I checked, homosexuality didn't have some sort of elevated status above all other sins that also excommunicates you from your religion. There are plenty of homosexual Judeo-Christians, just like there are plenty of Judeo-Christian thieves, murderers, adulterers, liars, shellfish eaters, etc., etc.

Then those people shouldn't be Christians.

The Bible is not friendly to homosexuals. Any Christians who is needs to take a step back and realise that they're not following their supposed holy text, and either do what the book says, or leave the damned religion behind where it belongs.

Have you ever eaten shellfish? Have you ever worn a cotton-polyester blend? Have you ever had premarital sex? Have you ever worked on the sabbath? Have you ever been near or touched a menstruating woman? Have you ever cursed your parents? If so, you are a sinner and should not be a Christian. Actually, if we're taking Biblical laws seriously, a couple of those mandate that you should have been killed.

[mesmerizedish]

Agamo45 wrote...

Deejtage wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...
Judeo-Christian philosophy is clear regarding homosexuality and Ashley seems devout. No, it wouldn't make sense at all for her to be a lesbian.

So there are no Judeo-Christian homosexuals?

If they practice homosexual behavior, no.

I think that is a rather close-minded opinion, honestly. I share Sundance31us' skepticism.

It's pretty simple actually. You cannot be a member of a religion if you blatantly contradict everything that the religion teaches.

Homosexuality is not "everything" that any religion teaches.

The second commandment is "Thou shalt not kill." It's not "Thou shalt not kill, except in self-defense, or your government tells you to, or you're carrying out a lawfully ordained execution." It's "Thou shalt not kill," full stop.

Police officers, soldiers, executioners, normal people... all violate the commandment every day. And yet they're still Jews, they're still Christians.

Biblical passages concerning homosexuality are found in the same parts of the Bible that mention wearing certain patterns of cloth as horrible sins. Lot is celebrated as the only good man in a city of rapists, and then has sex with his daughters.

Looks like no one is actually Judeo-Christian. Even the dudes in the Bible themselves!

Hell, I'll bet God isn't Judeo-Christian. I mean, She totes knocked up a girl without consent. That's pretty bad. But, in the immortal words of Tricky Dick, "If the President does it, it's not illegal."

[Zkyire]

ipgd wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...
Judeo-Christian philosophy is clear regarding homosexuality and Ashley seems devout. No, it wouldn't make sense at all for her to be a lesbian.

So there are no Judeo-Christian homosexuals?

If they practice homosexual behavior, no.

Last time I checked, homosexuality didn't have some sort of elevated status above all other sins that also excommunicates you from your religion. There are plenty of homosexual Judeo-Christians, just like there are plenty of Judeo-Christian thieves, murderers, adulterers, liars, shellfish eaters, etc., etc.

Then those people shouldn't be Christians.

The Bible is not friendly to homosexuals. Any Christians who is needs to take a step back and realise that they're not following their supposed holy text, and either do what the book says, or leave the damned religion behind where it belongs.

Have you ever eaten shellfish? Have you ever worn a cotton-polyester blend? Have you ever had premarital sex? Have you ever worked on the sabbath? Have you ever been near or touched a menstruating woman? Have you ever cursed your parents? If so, you are a sinner and should not be a Christian. Actually, if we're taking Biblical laws seriously, a couple of those mandate that you should have been killed.

Re-read my damned post.

I'm sick of people making assumptions about me in every bloody thread.

I was talking about Christianity. I didn't say I was a Christian.

[Agamo45]

lightsnow13 wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...

Deejtage wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...
Judeo-Christian philosophy is clear regarding homosexuality and Ashley seems devout. No, it wouldn't make sense at all for her to be a lesbian.

So there are no Judeo-Christian homosexuals?

If they practice homosexual behavior, no.

I think that is a rather close-minded opinion, honestly. I share Sundance31us' skepticism.

It's pretty simple actually. You cannot be a member of a religion if you blatantly contradict everything that the religion teaches.

Well there are christians out there who are gay and practice christianity. There ARE different ways to interpret the bible.

Btw, lets stop talking about religion because this thread will be closed.

You cannot be a true Christian while being a practicing homosexual. There is a huge contradiction there. It's that simple.

[leggywillow]

ipgd wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...
So there are no Judeo-Christian homosexuals?

If they practice homosexual behavior, no.

Last time I checked, homosexuality didn't have some sort of elevated status above all other sins that also excommunicates you from your religion. There are plenty of homosexual Judeo-Christians, just like there are plenty of Judeo-Christian thieves, murderers, adulterers, liars, shellfish eaters, etc., etc.

This.  I really don't get how some members of this religion get so high and mighty about this.  Homosexuality is no worse than premarital sex, which a ton of people engage in these days.  Heck, homosexuality didn't even make it into the Ten Commandments, and I'm pretty sure the average person breaks at least one of those on a near-daily basis.  Some people need to experiment with humility.

[Sundance31us]

Neesee wrote...
I'm pretty sure there was a big commotion about an openly lesbian bishop for some Christian Church.

Yes.

[shepskisaac]

Agamo45 wrote...

You cannot be a true Christian while being a practicing homosexual. There is a huge contradiction there. It's that simple.

You cannot be a true Christian if you wear clothes made of mixed fabric. Simple.

[ipgd]

Agamo45 wrote...

You cannot be a true Christian while being a practicing homosexual. There is a huge contradiction there. It's that simple.

Then no one is a Christian. Where in the Bible is homosexuality singled out as the greatest sin of all, the only one that makes you not a Christian if you commit it? (Psst: the answer is nowhere. Being homosexual doesn't make you any less of a Christian than wearing a cotton-polyester blended shirt does. Kinda the whole point of that Jesus dude is that all people are sinners.)

[Agamo45]

IsaacShep wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...

You cannot be a true Christian while being a practicing homosexual. There is a huge contradiction there. It's that simple.

You cannot be a true Christian if you wear clothes made of mixed fabric. Simple.

Your post shows your ignorance of what Christianity is about. I would explain it to you in detail, but I suspect the effort would be wasted.

[Deejtage]

Agamo45 wrote...

You cannot be a true Christian while being a practicing homosexual. There is a huge contradiction there. It's that simple.

You cannot be a true Christian if you eat shellfish. Next.

[Sundance31us]

Agamo45 wrote...
You cannot be a true Christian while being a practicing homosexual. There is a huge contradiction there. It's that simple.

I would give my usual reply to such a comment, but I have no desire to be banned, nor see this thread implode any more than it has.

[Agamo45]

Deejtage wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...

You cannot be a true Christian while being a practicing homosexual. There is a huge contradiction there. It's that simple.

You cannot be a true Christian if you eat shellfish. Next.

You know nothing.

[leggywillow]

Agamo45 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...

You cannot be a true Christian while being a practicing homosexual. There is a huge contradiction there. It's that simple.

You cannot be a true Christian if you wear clothes made of mixed fabric. Simple.

Your post shows your ignorance of what Christianity is about. I would explain it to you in detail, but I suspect the effort would be wasted.

Christianity is not about being arrogant, judgemental, and holier-than-thou, despite what a lot of loud idiots these days would have people believe.  Maybe you should be the one handing in your Good Christian card, hmm?

[Zkyire]

Okay, we've established that Christianity is full of nonsensical, bigoted ridiculous crap.

And we've also established that most Christians in the world don't hold true to most Christian doctrine.

Meaning two things.

1) Ashley is just as much Christian as other Christians (and can do whatever she wants really without negative impact on the so-called religion of hers).

2) Christianity is a mess.

Next topic please before the threads gets shut down.

Modifié par IEatWhatIPoo, 22 août 2011 - 11:16 .

[shepskisaac]

Agamo45 wrote...

Your post shows your ignorance of what Christianity is about. I would explain it to you in detail, but I suspect the effort would be wasted.

Of course. It's always the same 'you don't understand Christianity" when an uncomfortable fact about a religion gets quoted. I was raised a Christian, I know damn well what is it about and I know damn well what is it hypocrite about. If any effor would be wasted, it would be an effort to try and make you realize Christianity is suppoused to be about love.

[jbblue05]

Mash Mashington wrote...

YOU MEAN GARRUS ISN'T CHRISTIAN?!1

Oh, nevermind, carry on

Turians find Buddhism more compelling

[ipgd]

Agamo45 wrote...

Deejtage wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...

You cannot be a true Christian while being a practicing homosexual. There is a huge contradiction there. It's that simple.

You cannot be a true Christian if you eat shellfish. Next.

You know nothing.

You ain't Ygritte, guy. You don't get to use that as an argument.

[Agamo45]

IsaacShep wrote...

Agamo45 wrote...

Your post shows your ignorance of what Christianity is about. I would explain it to you in detail, but I suspect the effort would be wasted.

Of course. It's always the same 'you don't understand Christianity" when an uncomfortable fact about a religion gets quoted. I was raised a Christian, I know damn well what is it about and I know damn well what is it hypocrite about. If any effor would be wasted, it would be an effort to try and make you realize Christianity is suppoused to be about love.

You quoted archaic laws that no longer apply, such as the mixed-fabric verse. The coming of Christ washed those away. The law against homosexuality still very much applies, as there are verses about it in the New Testament.
In any case, the main point is that it would be bad-storytelling and blatant fanservice on Bioware's part to make established characters gay, especially ones like Ashley.

Modifié par Agamo45, 22 août 2011 - 11:23 .

[Boiny Bunny]

You may have noticed that there were a few character 'betrayals' present in DA2 as well (in relation to this thread, Anders became gay if you were manHawke and decided to romance him).

The answer: Bioware don't care. Gameplay > Lore, from their design standpoint.

[Zkyire]

Boiny Bunny wrote...

You may have noticed that there were a few character 'betrayals' present in DA2 as well (in relation to this thread, Anders became gay if you were manHawke and decided to romance him).

The answer: Bioware don't care. Gameplay > Lore, from their design standpoint.

Maybe he just didn't find the Warden attractive

[RenegadeXV]

Boiny Bunny wrote...

You may have noticed that there were a few character 'betrayals' present in DA2 as well (in relation to this thread, Anders became gay if you were manHawke and decided to romance him).

The answer: Bioware don't care. Gameplay > Lore, from their design standpoint.

That was a different team though. The ME and DA teams approach romances differently.