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[shepskisaac]

Why are people even talking about all-bisexual crew? It's been confirmed time and time again that will not happen? Is it because they don't have better arguments?

[jbblue05]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Sometimes, interest in a person just takes a while to develop anyway, so Kaidan or Ash being an S/S LI is possible.

It's not a case of 'I was hiding my gay', it's more a case of 'I wasn't sure how I felt at that time... and then you... you know died'.

We need romance diversity.

We don;t need any more "oh by the way I've been wanting to boink you since the last game but was too shy to act upon it romances"  Tali and Garrus already claimed that.

The second part doesn't make much sense Ash and Kaidan are really blunt in their attraction to opposite sex Shepard early in the game.

Wy must every LI be made bisexual. UNIFORMITY is terrible
 

How come they cannot?

Unique romances are perferable to one-size fits all romances

Claiming everyone bisexual is closest to equality is BS, respecting others varied lifestyles is the closest you can get to equality 

Respecting lifestyles? Please explain what you mean by this.

I was really obvious in my last couple posts

[Xilizhra]

IsaacShep wrote...

Why are people even talking about all-bisexual crew? It's been confirmed time and time again that will not happen? Is it because they don't have better arguments?

Have they ever?

[jlb524]

jbblue05 wrote...

Unique romances are perferable to one-size fits all romances

Claiming everyone bisexual is closest to equality is BS, respecting others varied lifestyles is the closest you can get to equality 

But having all romances be heterosexual is a-o-kay and oh so unique

[RenegadeXV]

Xilizhra wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Why are people even talking about all-bisexual crew? It's been confirmed time and time again that will not happen? Is it because they don't have better arguments?

Have they ever?

Mac Walters said on Twitter that only a few of the romances will be S/S.

[jbblue05]

jlb524 wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Unique romances are perferable to one-size fits all romances

Claiming everyone bisexual is closest to equality is BS, respecting others varied lifestyles is the closest you can get to equality 

But having all romances be heterosexual is a-o-kay and oh so unique

Did you even read my post?<_<.

I have nothing against s/s romances I just don't want every LI painted with the bisexual brush.

I believe gay male Shepard's deserve appeasement becuase Femshep can be a lesbo througnt the first two games

[Sundance31us]

[GipsyDangeresque]

The decision by Bioware to reverse their decision on Tali as not being a romance pre-ME2 was fanservice. Tali's romance in ME2 was character development, but not fanservice. These statements do not contradict each other.

Similarly, the decision to write a romance between Femshep and Garrus for ME2 coming out of the reaction to the character in ME1 was fanservice. The romance with Garrus in ME2 was a natural progression of his character, and character development.

The decision to make any of the previous love interests in the Mass Effect series bi-sexual, as opposed to introducing a new character instead would be of dual purposes fanservice and also conserving resources by keeping down the number of new squadmates. However, once the characters are written in the direction they are chosen to be written, this is not fanservice, but could admittedly be considered product of fanservice. It also will have been character development.

The fact is, the writers for Bioware are always trying to please fans and entertain them. All writing from character writers is meant to be fanservice, always. Fanservice as in the definition of being something some portion of fans will enjoy and want- even if they don't know it yet like with debuting an original character like Vega- or taking a returning squadmate's development a step further.

The truth is, no matter what it will always have been character development. In my opinion, some of the people just need to learn to deal with the fact that we're speaking of fictional characters who's lives are being scripted in piecemeal entries and not organic, living entities.

Or not. That's why the BSN is the BSN, after all.

Modifié par Atemeus, 22 août 2011 - 05:35 .

[jbblue05]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...
I was really obvious in my last couple posts

That's not what I meant. Exactly which lifestyles are you talking about?

bi, str8, gay, xenophilia etc.

[Deejtage]

IsaacShep wrote...

Why are people even talking about all-bisexual crew? It's been confirmed time and time again that will not happen? Is it because they don't have better arguments?

This. People need to get it through their thick-heads that not every squadmember is going to become bisexual.

[jwalker]

Eski.Moe wrote...

CommanderJessica wrote...

GodWood wrote...

CommanderJessica wrote...
And Tali's mum needed to open her suit to give birth..?
I don't see why a Quarian would just open up their suit, risking illnesses and fever, just to prove a point.

Shala'Raan and Tali's mother synchronised suits so that they could be in the same clean room for Tali's birth.

I meanttttt, why would Tali open her suit for femshep, just to prove trust.

Perhaps it's simply that. It's the ultimate sign of trust for a Quarian and she's extending that to Shep. No need to dig into it much further. 

This reminds of some foot massage discussion

[jlb524]

jbblue05 wrote...

Did you even read my post?<_<.

I have nothing against s/s romances I just don't want every LI painted with the bisexual brush.

I believe gay male Shepard's deserve appeasement becuase Femshep can be a lesbo througnt the first two games

Well,

jbblue05 wrote...

Wy must every LI be made bisexual. UNIFORMITY is terrible
 

It seems you are assuming having all bisexual LIs would make the romances seem 'uniform' i.e. less unique.

In ME2, all 6 LIs were heterosexual...were these 'uniform' or less unique?  By your 'logic', yes they were.

This argument is terrible but I see it everywhere...

Modifié par jlb524, 22 août 2011 - 05:39 .

[jbblue05]

jlb524 wrote...



It seems you are assuming having all bisexual LIs would make the romances seem 'uniform' i.e. less unique.

In ME2, all 6 LIs were heterosexual...were these 'uniform' or less unique?  By your 'logic', yes they were.

This argument is terrible but I see it everywhere...

You did have 3 full alien romances  2 bisexual mini-romances 3 human romances  6 straight mances, Shiala, Parasini, Krogan admirer that seems more unique than ME1.

I though a couple of characters should've been bi like Jack,  Tali, and Garrus.  would've made the ME2 romances a lot more interesting

[GreenSoda]

jlb524 wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Did you even read my post?<_<.

I have nothing against s/s romances I just don't want every LI painted with the bisexual brush.

I believe gay male Shepard's deserve appeasement becuase Femshep can be a lesbo througnt the first two games

Well,

jbblue05 wrote...

Wy must every LI be made bisexual. UNIFORMITY is terrible
 

It seems you are assuming having all bisexual LIs would make the romances seem 'uniform' i.e. less unique.

In ME2, all 6 LIs were heterosexual...were these 'uniform' or less unique?  By your 'logic', yes they were.

This argument is terrible but I see it everywhere...

You have DA2 activated in your profile. You should know what he meant. If anything I just don't want another Anders moment in ME3.

[Sundance31us]

Having the s/s options in the dialogue wheel doesn't mean any give NPC or PC is automatically gay, it's up to the PC to determine that as they play.

[GreenSoda]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

GreenSoda wrote...
You have DA2 activated in your profile. You should know what he meant. If anything I just don't want another Anders moment in ME3.

You mean Anders coming on to you? We won't have another situation like that, as it's been confirmed that characters will be reactive to the player.

That means you initiate romances. Not the characters.

I didn't mind Anders coming on to my PC. It was simply the fact that he was already established as being straight in Awakenings. Him suddenly being bi felt so very crowbared-in. In fact all characters being bi felt kind of bland. Why not make some straight and some exclusively gay ?

That seems to me to be waaay more respectful to gay gamers.

Modifié par GreenSoda, 22 août 2011 - 05:56 .

[GreenSoda]

Sundance31us wrote...

Having the s/s options in the dialogue wheel doesn't mean any give NPC or PC is automatically gay, it's up to the PC to determine that as they play.

NPC switching characters based on PC stats are the *worst* idea ever.