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[Xilizhra]

I didn't mind Anders coming on to my PC. It was simply the fact that he was already established as being straight in Awakenings. Him suddenly being bi felt so very crowbared-in. In fact all characters being bi felt kind of bland. Why not make some straight and some exclusively gay ?

That seems to me waaay more respectful to gay gamers.

Considering how many gay gamers are arguing against you, I don't think it's up to you to decide that.

[lazuli]

GreenSoda wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...

Having the s/s options in the dialogue wheel doesn't mean any give NPC or PC is automatically gay, it's up to the PC to determine that as they play.

NPC switching characters based on PC stats are the *worst* idea ever.

And yet Bioware has featured characters that can be "hardened" in numerous games, allowing players to influence their personalities to a certain degree.

[Sundance31us]

Luc0s wrote...
Yeah because that's JUST like real-life.

I always determine who's gay and who's straight when I talk to people in real-life. It's so epic to have the ability to choose someone's sexuality by simply carefully constructing my lines!

It's a game not RL.

[Luigitornado]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

Aliens are more believable than having an entire bisexul crew.

Aliens bent on our destruction as well?

Yep.

Bisexuals are more believble than aliens and aliens who want to destroy us, but having an entire bisexual crew is down right silly.

[Luigitornado]

jlb524 wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Unique romances are perferable to one-size fits all romances

Claiming everyone bisexual is closest to equality is BS, respecting others varied lifestyles is the closest you can get to equality 

But having all romances be heterosexual is a-o-kay and oh so unique

I think you will find most people who are against an entire bisexual crew, don't mind having a few s/s options.

[jlb524]

jbblue05 wrote...

You did have 3 full alien romances  2 bisexual mini-romances 3 human romances  6 straight mances, Shiala, Parasini, Krogan admirer that seems more unique than ME1.

I though a couple of characters should've been bi like Jack,  Tali, and Garrus.  would've made the ME2 romances a lot more interesting

You were basing 'uniformity' solely on sexuality.

GreenSoda wrote...

You have DA2 activated in your profile.
You should know what he meant. If anything I just don't want another
Anders moment in ME3.

Yeees, and I've played the game 7 times.  What does Anders have to do with the claim that having all bisexual LIs makes for uniform and less unique romances?

Luigitornado wrote...

I think you will find most people who are against an entire bisexual crew, don't mind having a few s/s options.

I know...but their arguments against all bisexual LIs aren't very good and seem to come down to 'I don't wanna share my toys'.

Modifié par jlb524, 22 août 2011 - 06:08 .

[GreenSoda]

lazuli wrote...

GreenSoda wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...

Having the s/s options in the dialogue wheel doesn't mean any give NPC or PC is automatically gay, it's up to the PC to determine that as they play.

NPC switching characters based on PC stats are the *worst* idea ever.

And yet Bioware has featured characters that can be "hardened" in numerous games, allowing players to influence their personalities to a certain degree.

I wouldn't mind if you could "convince" a NPC to go same sex for you -just as you can convince NPCs to harden up. That way it's you influencing a set character. What I loathe are automatisms that pre-change the NPCs. Specifically the ones that make the NPCs into characters having dissociative identity disorder (I'm straight -no wait I'm gay lol).

[Siansonea]

::peeks into thread::
::sees that it is a virtual copy-and-paste of every other complaint thread on this subject::
::leaves thread::

[Sundance31us]

It's almost like people are frightened their going to catch "gay" cooties if the option appears in the game.

The cooties are a lie.

[darkangelvxvx]

I dont think Garrus, or Tali wouldn't be good S/S relations for a few reasons:

Garrus has never mentioned anything about being attracted to males. His infamous "reach and flexibility" conversation towards a male shep is almost like a playful jab that all guys would use against one another.

Quarians are very dedicated towards keeping their population stable, meaning at times they need to force eachother to reproduce. Also she's a daughter of the admiralty (which I guess could be a plug for homosexuality) and is heavily dedicated to the flotilla. Moreover, the whole LOTSB easter-egg is also a huge plug towards her being hetero. Also I dont believe she has the same convo about sharing suit enviros with a fem shep that she does with a male shep. It's heavily noted through Kasumi, Liara, Chambers and herself that she's attracted to a male shep, and never noted that she's attracted to a femshep.

*queue ****-storm of "modded fem shep" remarks*

Modifié par darkangelvxvx, 22 août 2011 - 06:10 .

[Deejtage]

Xilizhra wrote...

I didn't mind Anders coming on to my PC. It was simply the fact that he was already established as being straight in Awakenings. Him suddenly being bi felt so very crowbared-in. In fact all characters being bi felt kind of bland. Why not make some straight and some exclusively gay ?

That seems to me waaay more respectful to gay gamers.

Considering how many gay gamers are arguing against you, I don't think it's up to you to decide that.

Just to note, I agree with GreenSoda in the second part of his post. As a gay gamer, I would rather have some straight and some exclusively gay. Bisexual also if it makes sense for the character and isn't just shoe-horned in.

[Luigitornado]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

Aliens are more believable than having an entire bisexul crew.

Aliens bent on our destruction as well?

Yep.

Bisexuals are more believble than aliens and aliens who want to destroy us, but having an entire bisexual crew is down right silly.

Oh my god. And I don't even believe in a god.


That has to be the one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted.

You're the dumbest thing I ever seen posting. See what I did there?
I prefer you to not insult my intelligence because you do not see it the way I do.

Relative to the story, aliens and aliens whom are the "vanguard of our destruction" fits entirley into realm of being believable.Having a crew made up of entirely of bisexuals is not believable because sexuality is grouded in reality; not fantasy.

[jlb524]

Luc0s wrote...

Which is no excuse for anything. 

Letting the player decide the sexuality of the NPC with their dialogue is simply just... stupid.

Letting the player decide the morality of the NPC with their dialogue is simply just...stupid.

Deejtage wrote...

Just to note, I agree with GreenSoda in the second part of his post. As a gay gamer, I would rather have some
straight and some exclusively gay. Bisexual also if it makes sense for the character and isn't just shoe-horned in.

They won't make exclusively gay characters.

Modifié par jlb524, 22 août 2011 - 06:16 .

[shepskisaac]

darkangelvxvx wrote...

Quarians are very dedicated towards keeping their population stable, meaning at times they need to force eachother to reproduce.

Yet Tali goes for a male human who she can't reproduce with either?

Modifié par IsaacShep, 22 août 2011 - 06:16 .

[Sundance31us]

Luc0s wrote...
Letting the player decide the sexuality of the NPC with their dialogue is simply just... stupid.

The player drives everything that happens in the game.

[Someone With Mass]

jlb524 wrote...

Letting the player decide the morality of the NPC with their dialogue is simply just...stupid.

I think it's good to be able to convince people when I think they're doing something morally wrong. It's something entirely different when the player is trying to make them sexually accept people of the same/different gender.

Especially if they've said that they're feeling good with the way it is at the moment.

Nobody steps up to me, the player, and tries to convince me that my character is gay, so why should I treat them like that?

[Sundance31us]

Luc0s wrote...
Seriously don't you see how silly this is?

No, I only see how childish some people are about the subject.

[Wulfram]

darkangelvxvx wrote...
 Also I dont believe she has the same convo about sharing suit enviros with a fem shep that she does with a male shep.

She does.  FemShep can even remark on her blushing