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[What a Succulent Ass]

I'd also consider it a waste of resources giving a trailer to a vocal minority who are buying the game anyway.

Yeah, you're going to have to justify "waste of resources." Marketing is marketing - it's as much aimed at female gamers in general as it is to the female ME fanbase.

[Druss99]

kirvingtwo wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

No interest at all. I'd also consider it a waste of resources giving a trailer to a vocal minority who are buying the game anyway.

I'm still on the fence regarding a purchase of ME3. 

And seeing a trailer featuring a woman(who probably looks nothing like the one you created) instead of a man will swing it for you, when you KNOW that you can be a female anyway?

[kirvingtwo]

Druss99 wrote...

kirvingtwo wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

No interest at all. I'd also consider it a waste of resources giving a trailer to a vocal minority who are buying the game anyway.

I'm still on the fence regarding a purchase of ME3. 

And seeing a trailer featuring a woman(who probably looks nothing like the one you created) instead of a man will swing it for you, when you KNOW that you can be a female anyway?

Possibly.  It will definitely swing the pendulum closer to a purchase for me.

[Druss99]

kirvingtwo wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

kirvingtwo wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

No interest at all. I'd also consider it a waste of resources giving a trailer to a vocal minority who are buying the game anyway.

I'm still on the fence regarding a purchase of ME3. 

And seeing a trailer featuring a woman(who probably looks nothing like the one you created) instead of a man will swing it for you, when you KNOW that you can be a female anyway?

Possibly.  It will definitely swing the pendulum closer to a purchase for me.

Fair enough. What criteria you use to decide on a purchase is your call, its a million miles from mine but its your game and your money I can't judge or criticise you for that. But I stand by my original opinion.

[Druss99]

Random Jerkface wrote...

I'd also consider it a waste of resources giving a trailer to a vocal minority who are buying the game anyway.

Yeah, you're going to have to justify "waste of resources." Marketing is marketing - it's as much aimed at female gamers in general as it is to the female ME fanbase.

I gave my opinion, I didn't state a fact. Marketing seems to have already pulled in a fairly sizeable number of female gamers and males wanting to play Female Shepard, how many do you suppose are out there that a) don't know there's a female lead character and have enough interest in ME that just seeing a female lead would make them decide to purchase it? Personally I wouldn't commission another trailer based on that. But neither of us are in marketing so its all conjecture. As I said I just gave my opinion.

[KenKenpachi]

Nope not at all sounds as good to me as watching the moss overtake my yard an incah at a time.

[keboo]

I'm interested in any kind of trailer, so yes.

[mybudgee]

People people!! We have got to back away from the panic button here... think for a second about the chain of events reguarding FemShep. She is on the box. She had a bunch of attention when we voted which one was the best version (THANK GOD the redhead beat out the blonde) Surely the FemShep trailer is coming down the pipe soon. I would guess around the new year at the latest. Everyone just take a breath...

[padawanmage]

mybudgee wrote...

People people!! We have got to back away from the panic button here... think for a second about the chain of events reguarding FemShep. She is on the box. She had a bunch of attention when we voted which one was the best version (THANK GOD the redhead beat out the blonde) Surely the FemShep trailer is coming down the pipe soon. I would guess around the new year at the latest. Everyone just take a breath...

You really thought the blonde that bad? Granted the choices were a bit limited bit I thought Blonde a close second to Redhead. But as with everyone else, my opinion. 

[padawanmage]

KenKenpachi wrote...

Nope not at all sounds as good to me as watching the moss overtake my yard an incah at a time.

Hmm, you sure not an Aztec at a time? 

[padawanmage]

Druss99 wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

I'd also consider it a waste of resources giving a trailer to a vocal minority who are buying the game anyway.

Yeah, you're going to have to justify "waste of resources." Marketing is marketing - it's as much aimed at female gamers in general as it is to the female ME fanbase.

I gave my opinion, I didn't state a fact. Marketing seems to have already pulled in a fairly sizeable number of female gamers and males wanting to play Female Shepard, how many do you suppose are out there that a) don't know there's a female lead character and have enough interest in ME that just seeing a female lead would make them decide to purchase it? Personally I wouldn't commission another trailer based on that. But neither of us are in marketing so its all conjecture. As I said I just gave my opinion.

I would not be surprised if a lot of people still didn't know one could play as either gender. Again, if it's not advertised, some people will simply look at the box and think, 'Eh, white space Marine...again.'

As a side note, I didn't know Halo: Reach could be played as a female Spartan until I chanced to see a clip on youtube...not Bungie...but Youtube.  When I saw that, I decided to buy it.  But that's me.  

[Shinobu]

According to the Economist, the avg US gamer is 37 years old and 42% of US gamers are female, so marketing solely to the male 18-24 demographic is stupid. I think it's a good move for Bioware to court female gamers. We have disposable income, tend to be "brand loyal" and love a good romance arc (already one of Bioware's strengths).

So FemShep trailer: YES, PLEASE!

[LucidStrike]

padawanmage wrote...

mybudgee wrote...

People people!! We have got to back away from the panic button here... think for a second about the chain of events reguarding FemShep. She is on the box. She had a bunch of attention when we voted which one was the best version (THANK GOD the redhead beat out the blonde) Surely the FemShep trailer is coming down the pipe soon. I would guess around the new year at the latest. Everyone just take a breath...

You really thought the blonde that bad? Granted the choices were a bit limited bit I thought Blonde a close second to Redhead. But as with everyone else, my opinion. 

I was hopin' for the black one, but I guess that'd be a stretch too far.

[StephanieBengal]

LucidStrike wrote...

padawanmage wrote...

mybudgee wrote...

People people!! We have got to back away from the panic button here... think for a second about the chain of events reguarding FemShep. She is on the box. She had a bunch of attention when we voted which one was the best version (THANK GOD the redhead beat out the blonde) Surely the FemShep trailer is coming down the pipe soon. I would guess around the new year at the latest. Everyone just take a breath...

You really thought the blonde that bad? Granted the choices were a bit limited bit I thought Blonde a close second to Redhead. But as with everyone else, my opinion. 

I was hopin' for the black one, but I guess that'd be a stretch too far.

Yeah I wanted Rihanna too 

[goofyomnivore]

According to the Economist, the avg US gamer is 37 years old and 42% of US gamers are female, so marketing solely to the male 18-24 demographic is stupid.

I don't find those numbers to be odd at all if it includes social networking, cell phone, etc type of games. However I would be shocked if those numbers stayed consistent in "traditional" games. It is a neat statistic for sure, but I don't think it tells us very much about BioWare's market. I very much doubt the average BioWare customer is 37 and 42% are female. Especially considering something like 78% of the people who play the game used Sheploo or custom male Shepards.


As for femShep -- I thougt the blonde looked great, but blonde hair in the engine Mass Effect uses sucks with hair especially blonde hair, so I just voted red head -- the first vote I think I went with option #1 (short hair brunette).

Modifié par strive, 14 décembre 2011 - 04:51 .

[Weltea]

Normally I would love for us to get a FemShep trailer also, but with the way it's been handled I just find the whole FemShep thing insulting and won't play as her at all anymore.
And honestly I don't understand you guys exitement over her. We had a FemShep but we only get the promise of her being included in their marketing after she's been through a makeover? A make over that requires her to wear three times more make up than she did before and makes her look like she's in her late teens.
Meanwhile Sheploo went from looking like he's in his twenties to looking like he's in his fourties but nobody bats an eyelash at that. It's only the female character that has to look youthful and dolled up to be allowed to be seen in public.
So yeah,thanks but I'm done with FemShep,default or not and I really rather would not ever see her face in a trailer...

[padawanmage]

Weltea wrote...

Normally I would love for us to get a FemShep trailer also, but with the way it's been handled I just find the whole FemShep thing insulting and won't play as her at all anymore.
And honestly I don't understand you guys exitement over her. We had a FemShep but we only get the promise of her being included in their marketing after she's been through a makeover? A make over that requires her to wear three times more make up than she did before and makes her look like she's in her late teens.
Meanwhile Sheploo went from looking like he's in his twenties to looking like he's in his fourties but nobody bats an eyelash at that. It's only the female character that has to look youthful and dolled up to be allowed to be seen in public.
So yeah,thanks but I'm done with FemShep,default or not and I really rather would not ever see her face in a trailer...

You do bring up a fair point. Makes one wonder if FemShep is aimed more towards male or female players.  I also wonder how many women in the company had some say in this new 'makeover'? 

[Darth Death]

Druss99 wrote...

No interest at all. I'd also consider it a waste of resources giving a trailer to a vocal minority who are buying the game anyway.

Actually, I would like to see a in game trailer of all the different customization femshep will have, but a CGI trailer seems somewhat pointless. 

[Yakko77]

Not just yes but HE!! YES!!!

[ZeroCrewX]

@OP

Hell yes!!!! Need more femshep footage - especially cinematic one!

P.s check out my vid "Showdown" - went totally FemShep in it Thought I'd do something different than making malesheps like most people - maybe BioWare should also do something different and release a cinematic trailer that's actually FemShep?

[Bekkael]

ZeroCrewX wrote...

@OP

Hell yes!!!! Need more femshep footage - especially cinematic one!

P.s check out my vid "Showdown" - went totally FemShep in it Thought I'd do something different than making malesheps like most people - maybe BioWare should also do something different and release a cinematic trailer that's actually FemShep?

I liked your vid. Thanks for sharing.

[happy_daiz]

Bekkael wrote...

ZeroCrewX wrote...

@OP

Hell yes!!!! Need more femshep footage - especially cinematic one!

P.s check out my vid "Showdown" - went totally FemShep in it Thought I'd do something different than making malesheps like most people - maybe BioWare should also do something different and release a cinematic trailer that's actually FemShep?

I liked your vid. Thanks for sharing.

OMG, no kidding, that was awesome.  

[Shinobu]

strive wrote...

According to the Economist, the avg US gamer is 37 years old and 42% of US gamers are female, so marketing solely to the male 18-24 demographic is stupid.

I don't find those numbers to be odd at all if it includes social networking, cell phone, etc type of games. However I would be shocked if those numbers stayed consistent in "traditional" games. It is a neat statistic for sure, but I don't think it tells us very much about BioWare's market. I very much doubt the average BioWare customer is 37 and 42% are female. Especially considering something like 78% of the people who play the game used Sheploo or custom male Shepards.


As for femShep -- I thougt the blonde looked great, but blonde hair in the engine Mass Effect uses sucks with hair especially blonde hair, so I just voted red head -- the first vote I think I went with option #1 (short hair brunette).

Yes, that did include "Farmville" type games, but some of those "casual" female gamers could be lured over with the right marketing. I didn't want to buy Mass Effect until I heard that playing as a female character was an option. Letting female gamers know that they can play as a badass female marine can only improve sales to that demographic. Like in politics, playing only to the base may make you feel good, but the winner is going to be the one who can get new voters/consumers on their side.

As for FemShep being turned into Lolita, it would be nice if she looked to be 25 at least. However, as someone who grew up when female action heroes didn't exist, I'll be pleased as long as she's clothed appropriately and doesn't have huge breasts.

[N7L4D]

Yes, because femshep deserves to be in the lime light as well