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[Kusy]

Mike2640 wrote...
And really, from what little i've heard, the game is bland, but has the Star Wars appeal and is, of course, from "The Creators of MASS EFFECT", so it could honestly go either way.

From what little I've heard moon is made of cheese. What we do now? We go argue about why I am wrong or you addmit that the little you know is not enough to judge the matter?

[Mike2640]

Sarevok Synder wrote...

Mike2640 wrote...

And yet, here we are. Maybe they felt DA:O was getting lucky or something. Also while DA:O sold more, i'm not certain if it was as profitable as Mass Effect 2, as it took much much longer to make. With how DA2 underperformed they might see that the classic RPG formula cant be molded into a One a Year/Couple Years and still sell, which could push them further towards the more actiony, shooty games.

I'm not saying I like it, as I thought ME2 was much less interesting than ME1 (My thoughts on DA2 would take much longer to get into), but that does appear to be the pattern forming in their last few games.

No; DA:O didn't just outsell ME2; it trounced it. As to why they are going this direction is obvious; EA.

I'm not saying it didn't outsell ME2, but I question whether it was more profitable. ME2 came out in two years and was very successful. Dragon Age took six years (I think?) to get to shelves? Wildly successful yes and, in my opinion, their best work, but that's a lot of budget to cover.

And yeah, being part of a major publishing company probably did have an effect on where they go business-wise, especially since (I think) EA's in kind of a financial bind lately.

[Bcuz]

flemm wrote...

If Bioware goes down it'll probably be because of TOR. Mass Effect is too hot a property to fail at this point...

Pretty much, yeah. ME3 is a very secure investment. Some people will not like it, and that's fine, but money will not be lost. SW:TOR is a much, much bigger question mark.

I firmly believe it can be done well.
The question mark really is will it?

[Rockworm503]

Weiser_Cain wrote...

After Bioware's become bigger than ever we're all going to look back and laugh at all the naysayers .

Yes I agree.

[Il Divo]

Mike2640 wrote...

I'm not saying it didn't outsell ME2, but I question whether it was more profitable. ME2 came out in two years and was very successful. Dragon Age took six years (I think?) to get to shelves? Wildly successful yes and, in my opinion, their best work, but that's a lot of budget to cover.

And yeah, being part of a major publishing company probably did have an effect on where they go business-wise, especially since (I think) EA's in kind of a financial bind lately.

Five years, I believe. They'd been working on it since at least Jade Empire.

[flemm]

I firmly believe it can be done well.
The question mark really is will it?

Perhaps. But there was a moment there when apparently World of Warcraft's popularity led game developers to believe that (subscription-based) MMOs were the next big thing. I'm not sure that's true. But hopefully it will do at least respectably.

Modifié par flemm, 23 août 2011 - 02:36 .

[Mike2640]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Mike2640 wrote...
And really, from what little i've heard, the game is bland, but has the Star Wars appeal and is, of course, from "The Creators of MASS EFFECT", so it could honestly go either way.

From what little I've heard moon is made of cheese. What we do now? We go argue about why I am wrong or you addmit that the little you know is not enough to judge the matter?

I'm not trying to judge TOR. It's not really something i'm interested in; just repeating what i've heard from the grapevine. I'm just saying that if the game itself is lackluster, the star wars lore coupled with potentially good writing could be enough to keep it going.

[Rockworm503]

KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

After Bioware's dead we're all going to look back and wonder how we didn't see it coming.

Alot of us see it coming, its just that no one will listen...including Bioware.

LOL you guys sound like the end of the world people.  Mark your calenders December 21st I think?
The END IS NIGH SHOOTERS ARE A BLIGHT!

[shep82]

KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...

Mike2640 wrote...

KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

After Bioware's dead we're all going to look back and wonder how we didn't see it coming.

Alot of us see it coming, its just that no one will listen...including Bioware.

If Bioware goes down it'll probably be because of TOR. Mass Effect is too hot a property to fail at this point, it'll probably be a while until we see another Dragon Age after 2, after TOR is out anyway, and any potential new IP will probably have sufficient buzz to do well, being from "The Creators of MASS EFFECT".

And really, from what little i've heard, the game is bland, but has the Star Wars appeal and is, of course, from "The Creators of MASS EFFECT", so it could honestly go either way.

They arent inspiring much confidence at this point, when it comes to another masterpiece after ME3, (which wont be a masterpiece probably).

I disagree. ME 2 was stellar IMO and from what I've seen ME 3 looks to be just as good.

[Il Divo]

shep82 wrote...

I disagree. ME 2 was stellar IMO and from what I've seen ME 3 looks to be just as good.

Agreed.

[Kusy]

Mike2640 wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Mike2640 wrote...
And really, from what little i've heard, the game is bland, but has the Star Wars appeal and is, of course, from "The Creators of MASS EFFECT", so it could honestly go either way.

From what little I've heard moon is made of cheese. What we do now? We go argue about why I am wrong or you addmit that the little you know is not enough to judge the matter?

I'm not trying to judge TOR. It's not really something i'm interested in; just repeating what i've heard from the grapevine. I'm just saying that if the game itself is lackluster, the star wars lore coupled with potentially good writing could be enough to keep it going.

Exacly. The Old Republic is going to return investment money in the first or second year feeding only from the hype already build, Star Wars nerds, and BioWare fanboys. Opinions about it being bland is based only on assumptions of people who are, like half of this community resentful towards MMOs and multiplayer in general and hardcore WoW fans, while everyone who had time with the game on a live demo or as a beta tester says otherwise.

[Rockworm503]

KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...

Bcuz wrote...

KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

After Bioware's dead we're all going to look back and wonder how we didn't see it coming.

Alot of us see it coming, its just that no one will listen...including Bioware.

World of Warcraft's community would like to have a word with you.
Something about stealing their thunder...

HAHAHA!

You can laugh all you want but the sales Blizzard got from WoW is nothing to joke about.

[Bcuz]

shep82 wrote...

KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...

Mike2640 wrote...

KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

After Bioware's dead we're all going to look back and wonder how we didn't see it coming.

Alot of us see it coming, its just that no one will listen...including Bioware.

If Bioware goes down it'll probably be because of TOR. Mass Effect is too hot a property to fail at this point, it'll probably be a while until we see another Dragon Age after 2, after TOR is out anyway, and any potential new IP will probably have sufficient buzz to do well, being from "The Creators of MASS EFFECT".

And really, from what little i've heard, the game is bland, but has the Star Wars appeal and is, of course, from "The Creators of MASS EFFECT", so it could honestly go either way.

They arent inspiring much confidence at this point, when it comes to another masterpiece after ME3, (which wont be a masterpiece probably).

I disagree. ME 2 was stellar IMO and from what I've seen ME 3 looks to be just as good.

Note the AFTER ME3.

ME3, ya. From preorders alone they probably already have a hit on their hands.
What comes after? Well once all the DLCs are done and over with and Bioware goes onto its next projects, it's going to be difficult to live up to ME's standard.

[shep82]

Bcuz wrote...

shep82 wrote...

KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...

Mike2640 wrote...

KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

After Bioware's dead we're all going to look back and wonder how we didn't see it coming.

Alot of us see it coming, its just that no one will listen...including Bioware.

If Bioware goes down it'll probably be because of TOR. Mass Effect is too hot a property to fail at this point, it'll probably be a while until we see another Dragon Age after 2, after TOR is out anyway, and any potential new IP will probably have sufficient buzz to do well, being from "The Creators of MASS EFFECT".

And really, from what little i've heard, the game is bland, but has the Star Wars appeal and is, of course, from "The Creators of MASS EFFECT", so it could honestly go either way.

They arent inspiring much confidence at this point, when it comes to another masterpiece after ME3, (which wont be a masterpiece probably).

I disagree. ME 2 was stellar IMO and from what I've seen ME 3 looks to be just as good.

Note the AFTER ME3.

ME3, ya. From preorders alone they probably already have a hit on their hands.
What comes after? Well once all the DLCs are done and over with and Bioware goes onto its next projects, it's going to be difficult to live up to ME's standard.

Oh that's easy just make Halo ME! J/K *runs*

[Il Divo]

KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...

HAHA
Well, its Mass Effect dude. GOW in my Mass Effect, is like Whiskey in my Latte.

Eh, I like to think of it more as cognac in my espresso.

[Bcuz]

shep82 wrote...
Oh that's easy just make Halo ME! J/K *runs*

(Stripping down the chain quote)
Oh please lord I hope not...

[Rockworm503]

KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

After Bioware's become bigger than ever we're all going to look back and laugh at all the naysayers .

Yes I agree.

Hmm...Well, at some point, they will start making games that even COD nor RPG fans will want to play.
You never know man...

Yes because Cod and RPG fans are the only fans in existance.

[shep82]

Bcuz wrote...

shep82 wrote...
Oh that's easy just make Halo ME! J/K *runs*

(Stripping down the chain quote)
Oh please lord I hope not...

Well you could get the satisfaction of killing Master Chief with renegade Shep.

[Sarevok Synder]

Mike2640 wrote...

I'm not saying it didn't outsell ME2, but I question whether it was more profitable. ME2 came out in two years and was very successful. Dragon Age took six years (I think?) to get to shelves? Wildly successful yes and, in my opinion, their best work, but that's a lot of budget to cover.

And yeah, being part of a major publishing company probably did have an effect on where they go business-wise, especially since (I think) EA's in kind of a financial bind lately.

It wasn't actually in full development for six years, but there were people working on it for that period; true. But you can be rest assured DA:O made more profit than ME2. However; you're right EA are not doing well. They need huge successes to recoup the money spent on all their developer acquisitions. ME2's 3.4 million sales or so simply isn't going to cut it. They are looking for COD's 10 million plus. It's never going to happen.

Modifié par Sarevok Synder, 23 août 2011 - 02:47 .

[Bcuz]

Rockworm503 wrote...

KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

After Bioware's become bigger than ever we're all going to look back and laugh at all the naysayers .

Yes I agree.

Hmm...Well, at some point, they will start making games that even COD nor RPG fans will want to play.
You never know man...

Yes because Cod and RPG fans are the only fans in existance.

Yep because aperently Valve fans, side scroller fans, *shudders* "casual gamers", MMOers and all those other fans are just not as easily grouped up.