FlintlockJazz wrote...
Or have you considered that maybe taste is subjective? I personally have never got the love for MoO or MoO2, does that mean that I think those who love it are stuck in the past? No, they just have differing tastes to me. I love the Baldur's Gate games, but I do not expect everyone else to, on the contrary the difference in style between the Infinity and Aurora engine games are so different to Bioware's later games (and to each other) that I would hesitate before recommending games from either era to people who have played the other since they appeal to such different tastes. I myself consider KotOR the worst Bioware purchase I have ever made, even more horrible than DA2, simply because I consider it bland, insipid and soulless, the only thing I can see that appeals to people being the Star Wars brand on it, and yet I also realise that is my own personal tastes and that it is not in the majority by a long shot.
Which brings us to the true heart of the matter, both you and those who you are hating on are really driven by the same exact thing: the desire to see that the time and effort you have invested in your beliefs has not been a waste of time, and that your worldview has merit. It's a basic human drive, and if you observe everyday life you see happening all the time, so it's understandable.
Course it is, so in the end who gets what they want? As with the posts below, most of us might not want all of that. So that leads to who is the larger market in which case CRPGers from the D&D set are still on the small end.
In anycase, this just proves my point again from several pages back. No group of significant size among RPG fans can agree what an RPG is, or what they want in it. In most reguards its silly we say what we like or don't. There are things I might want or not want to see in a bioware game. But I ignore them as I do with others unless it reaches a tipping point.
I was a long time Nintendo Fan boy, and when Nintendo turned to a new base, well I didn't post on the forum. I didn't make as many tear down ratings for the games as I could, or spread bad press on it. I left. I took my money and found something more of what I like. I mean crap if people who weren't happy with bioware just bought elsewhere or didn't post, half the threads here would be dead.
And yes as a fan you can say what you would like, just like if I open a restruant, you can say so. Like you love Anchoives on your Pizza, but the bulk doesn't....well I'm not buying them just for you. And I don't worry if my views have merit, I'm not above making them have it. And you don't really understand me all that well.
My Motivation in this case is I'm sick of the ****ing and how the massive day one and on purpose bad press toward DA:2 ruined it, its funny that its sales percentage is higher NOW than on release because of that. And I get sick of people that think a group thats built to make money and expand its consumer base owes them anything. It doesn't.And if you don't like the new path (in general not you flint) then why moan? If the stance and position is in your favor...walk. Go, buy something else. If that percentage of gamers is large enough then it will force a change. If its not, your no fighting for a cause you can't win.
But reguardless from a point of view they are right. RPGS have grown so much and into so many markets, with so many mechanics, that the term is useless.
I mean all of these games have been called RPGs, and all of us here would say no, or hate it, or love it, etc, etc. No other gaming community has this problem.
Zelda, D&D, ME:1-2, DA:1-2, BG, FF games, Legend of Dragoon, Super Mario RPG, GTA. The list goes on and on, and yet most of us would scream hersey at a number of these, and most of us even then wouldn't agree on which ones. So with that division you go off of which market is larger.