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I mean, this game is called Dragon Age right?
The only dragon I've fought so far is the High Dragon, and several teeny tiny cutesy dragonlings, but they don't count. Have I missed anything? :pinched:


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Well, there's a few full dragons and a mature dragon in the first Bone Pit visit, a dragon in the Deep Roads, another mature dragon on top of Sundermounr in Act 2, a dragon in a dank cave on the Wounded Coast...

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They went with Flemeth. They worship her.

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Yeah, there were several that I recall, plus Flemeth. ;) 

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Dragons are "everywhere" in this game. It's rather hilarious since they're supposed to be rare. Or did I miss anything? ;D

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 22 août 2011 - 05:48 .


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Theres a dragon in the Deep Roads and the mature dragon in the Bone Pit, in addition to those you've mentioned, that I can recall.

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It's called Dragon Age because the Age was named after a High Dragon went on a rampage. They were believed to be extinct before that sighting, so like Tobi said, it's "lucky" that we see saw many, given that they're rare.

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*points to avatar* I absorbed them all - it's how I was able to form the awesome darkspawn-eating purpley dragon in the prologue.

But, I left a few in Kirkwall - just for kicks.

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TobiTobsen wrote...

Dragons are "everywhere" in this game. It's rather hilarious since they're supposed to be rare. Or did I miss anything? ;D


It's likely that the Dragonlings all spawned from the High Dragon that we encounter in Act III. I don't know of any Drakes appearing, though, which makes no sense. There's also the fact that there's a large number of "Dragons" as in the immature female dragon old enough to be on its own (codex). These dragons are supposed to be roaming on their own, so I'd say it's just another blatant disregard for lore by DA2.

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Nyxia wrote...

I mean, this game is called Dragon Age right?
The only dragon I've fought so far is the High Dragon, and several teeny tiny cutesy dragonlings, but they don't count. Have I missed anything? :pinched:


Dragons in Origins
- A Dragon ambushes you in the one of the large chambers in the Werewolf Lair during Nature of the Beast
- A Dragon can be unleashed in the Orzammar Throne room by a series of panels (Caged in Stone Quest)
- The High Dragon guarding the Temple in Urn of Sacred Ashes
- Flemeth takes the form of a High Dragon if you decide to fight her during Morrigan's personal quest

Dragons in Awakening
- High Dragon attacks when trying to enter Drake's Fall in the Dragonmarsh
- Queen of the Blackmarsh is a Spectral Dragon, if you return all 5 bones to a certain spot
- Dragon Thralls, corrupted by the Taint, are encoutered after your trapped by the Architect

Dragons in DA2
- A Mature Dragon must be defeated when doing the Act 1 Bone Pit quest for Hubert
- A Mature Dragon nests at the top of Sundermount
- A High Dragon must be defeated during the Act 3 quest, Mine Massacre (only if you did the subsequent quests)
- A Dragon or Mature Dragon attacks the Deep Roads Expedition

I'm pretty sure I missed one or two but that's the majority of all the dragons that appear throught out Dragon Age, not counting the Arch Demon. Oddly enough, according to the codex entry on Dragons, all the dragons you encounter are females.

*Had forgotten the one in the Deep Roads in DA2

Modifié par T3H Fish, 22 août 2011 - 07:27 .


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harkness72 wrote...

It's called Dragon Age because the Age was named after a High Dragon went on a rampage. They were believed to be extinct before that sighting, so like Tobi said, it's "lucky" that we see saw many, given that they're rare.

Yeah, there are actually a lot of dragons around considering Nevarra was suppose to have killed them all.

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T3H Fish wrote...

I'm pretty sure I missed one or two but that's the majority of all the dragons that appear throught out Dragon Age, not counting the Arch Demon. Oddly enough, according to the codex entry on Dragons, all the dragons you encounter are females.

Male dragons are drakes. They show up in Origins too.

Modifié par devSin, 23 août 2011 - 01:00 .


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devSin wrote...

T3H Fish wrote...

I'm pretty sure I missed one or two but that's the majority of all the dragons that appear throught out Dragon Age, not counting the Arch Demon. Oddly enough, according to the codex entry on Dragons, all the dragons you encounter are females.

Male dragons are drakes. They show up in Origins too.


According to the Codex, Drakes are just the immature form of both male and female dragons. Males are described as having their front legs evolving into wings while females grow an 'extra' set of limbs that serve as their wings. I don't recall seeing a dragon with no front legs as of yet in Dragon Age... I wonder if the males are just rare because something has to be breeding with the females for all these High Dragons to keep popping up.

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T3H Fish wrote...

devSin wrote...

T3H Fish wrote...

I'm pretty sure I missed one or two but that's the majority of all the dragons that appear throught out Dragon Age, not counting the Arch Demon. Oddly enough, according to the codex entry on Dragons, all the dragons you encounter are females.

Male dragons are drakes. They show up in Origins too.


According to the Codex, Drakes are just the immature form of both male and female dragons. Males are described as having their front legs evolving into wings while females grow an 'extra' set of limbs that serve as their wings. I don't recall seeing a dragon with no front legs as of yet in Dragon Age... I wonder if the males are just rare because something has to be breeding with the females for all these High Dragons to keep popping up.


No, males are and become drakes. Dragonlings be the young'uns.

Male dragons never develop into the winged monsters of myth. At most, their forelegs grow vestigial spurs where wing membrane might have been.
Once they have fully matured, males immediately seek out the lairs of adult females. When they find one, they move into her lair and spend the rest of their lives there, hunting for her and defending her young. They will aggressively defend her nest, and many would-be dragon hunters have been lost to their fiery breath and crushing blows from their tails.


This is the codex on drakes. Read it again.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 23 août 2011 - 02:06 .


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Yeah, the drake is the man. He exists only to make the babies and guard the lair.

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T3H Fish wrote...

Nyxia wrote...

I mean, this game is called Dragon Age right?
The only dragon I've fought so far is the High Dragon, and several teeny tiny cutesy dragonlings, but they don't count. Have I missed anything? :pinched:


Dragons in Origins
- A Dragon ambushes you in the one of the large chambers in the Werewolf Lair during Nature of the Beast
- A Dragon can be unleashed in the Orzammar Throne room by a series of panels (Caged in Stone Quest)
- The High Dragon guarding the Temple in Urn of Sacred Ashes
- Flemeth takes the form of a High Dragon if you decide to fight her during Morrigan's personal quest

Dragons in Awakening
- High Dragon attacks when trying to enter Drake's Fall in the Dragonmarsh
- Queen of the Blackmarsh is a Spectral Dragon, if you return all 5 bones to a certain spot
- Dragon Thralls, corrupted by the Taint, are encoutered after your trapped by the Architect

Dragons in DA2
- A Mature Dragon must be defeated when doing the Act 1 Bone Pit quest for Hubert
- A Mature Dragon nests at the top of Sundermount
- A High Dragon must be defeated during the Act 3 quest, Mine Massacre (only if you did the subsequent quests)
- A Dragon or Mature Dragon attacks the Deep Roads Expedition

I'm pretty sure I missed one or two but that's the majority of all the dragons that appear throught out Dragon Age, not counting the Arch Demon. Oddly enough, according to the codex entry on Dragons, all the dragons you encounter are females.

*Had forgotten the one in the Deep Roads in DA2


There's also the Dragon that you fight outside of Fort Drakon.

And what makes you say the Dragon Thralls are corrupted by the taint? We haven't seen any evidence that normal dragons can be corrupted by the taint have we?

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I'm just going off what the codex on dragons is saying. I see I'm wrong about the Drakes, they are male so that was a mistake on my part. As for the Dragon Thralls, they are labeled as being corrupted by Darkspawn Taint in the wiki, though I have yet to find any other information that confirms or contradicts this, considering you encounter them at Fort Drakon in Origins, and then again in the Silverite Mine in Awakening. If there's something else to suggest otherwise, then I've missed it but that's what I've been able to find.

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T3H Fish wrote...

I'm just going off what the codex on dragons is saying. I see I'm wrong about the Drakes, they are male so that was a mistake on my part. As for the Dragon Thralls, they are labeled as being corrupted by Darkspawn Taint in the wiki, though I have yet to find any other information that confirms or contradicts this, considering you encounter them at Fort Drakon in Origins, and then again in the Silverite Mine in Awakening. If there's something else to suggest otherwise, then I've missed it but that's what I've been able to find.



I think every draconic creature that isn't an Old God can't be corrupted (or if they can, Bioware needs to make a different model to show that). I think the Architect was just studying the connection between Darkspawn and Dragons, who are connected to the Old Gods. What better way to study about them then to keep your own Dragon pen?

And considering the Reaver Joining makes the same noise you hear in both the Warden Joining and when you fight Meredith, there has to be a connection.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

T3H Fish wrote...

I'm just going off what the codex on dragons is saying. I see I'm wrong about the Drakes, they are male so that was a mistake on my part. As for the Dragon Thralls, they are labeled as being corrupted by Darkspawn Taint in the wiki, though I have yet to find any other information that confirms or contradicts this, considering you encounter them at Fort Drakon in Origins, and then again in the Silverite Mine in Awakening. If there's something else to suggest otherwise, then I've missed it but that's what I've been able to find.



I think every draconic creature that isn't an Old God can't be corrupted (or if they can, Bioware needs to make a different model to show that). I think the Architect was just studying the connection between Darkspawn and Dragons, who are connected to the Old Gods. What better way to study about them then to keep your own Dragon pen?

And considering the Reaver Joining makes the same noise you hear in both the Warden Joining and when you fight Meredith, there has to be a connection.


I can understand with the Architect, but doesn't explain why one (or two sometimes) shows up at Fort Drakon. The Wiki says they can be corrupted but then the wiki is all fan-base information so...<_<

*I also know why I made that silly mistake with the Drakes, I'm too use to the general fantasy of Dragon evolution. Dragon's are kinda my thing :pinched:

Modifié par T3H Fish, 23 août 2011 - 02:44 .


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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

T3H Fish wrote...

I'm just going off what the codex on dragons is saying. I see I'm wrong about the Drakes, they are male so that was a mistake on my part. As for the Dragon Thralls, they are labeled as being corrupted by Darkspawn Taint in the wiki, though I have yet to find any other information that confirms or contradicts this, considering you encounter them at Fort Drakon in Origins, and then again in the Silverite Mine in Awakening. If there's something else to suggest otherwise, then I've missed it but that's what I've been able to find.



I think every draconic creature that isn't an Old God can't be corrupted (or if they can, Bioware needs to make a different model to show that). I think the Architect was just studying the connection between Darkspawn and Dragons, who are connected to the Old Gods. What better way to study about them then to keep your own Dragon pen?

And considering the Reaver Joining makes the same noise you hear in both the Warden Joining and when you fight Meredith, there has to be a connection.


What about the Dragon Thralls?  They were specified to be dragons corrupted by the taint?

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Sounds like we will be seeing more dragons soon....

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
I think the Architect was just studying the connection between Darkspawn and Dragons, who are connected to the Old Gods. What better way to study about them then to keep your own Dragon pen?

That's what I always thought. The Architect was studying dragons in the Silverite Mine to find a connection to the Old Gods. Why else would he be raising them?

I hope there is a connection between them, anyway. The Old Gods being dragons for lulz really doesn't cut it for me. Dragons don't really even get much attention in this series outside of the occassional boss fight, despite being the namesake of the franchise. It would be nice to see them expanded on more in the lore.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

There's also the Dragon that you fight outside of Fort Drakon.


Outside Fort Drakon? I don't remember one outside it...

In DA2:

Mature Dragon - Bone Pit
High Dragon - Bone Pit
Dragon - Deeproads
Mature/Dragon - Sundermount Act 2
Dragon - (Dank?) Cave Wounded Coast Act 2 (Evil Tomes quest)

That's five off the top of my head, Maker knows how many dragonlings... no drakes that I can remember...

I think we got a fair few, and,

Legacy SPOILERS




Isn't Malvernis' second form a High Dragon?

Modifié par Gespenst, 23 août 2011 - 02:49 .


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Gespenst wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

There's also the Dragon that you fight outside of Fort Drakon.


Outside Fort Drakon? I don't remember one outside it...

Mature Dragon - Bone Pit
High Dragon - Bone Pit
Dragon - Deeproads
Mature/Dragon - Sundermount Act 2
Dragon - (Dank?) Cave Wounded Coast Act 2 (Evil Tomes quest)

That's five off the top of my head, Maker knows how many dragonlings... no drakes that I can remember...

I think we've got a fair few, and,

Legacy SPOILERS




Isn't Malvernis' second form a High Dragon?


When you get to the couryard in front of Fort Drakon, where Riordan's body is, you're ambushed by a Dragon Thrall. I had forgotten about that because I wasted the thing in a matter of seconds :whistle:

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Harid wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

T3H Fish wrote...

I'm just going off what the codex on dragons is saying. I see I'm wrong about the Drakes, they are male so that was a mistake on my part. As for the Dragon Thralls, they are labeled as being corrupted by Darkspawn Taint in the wiki, though I have yet to find any other information that confirms or contradicts this, considering you encounter them at Fort Drakon in Origins, and then again in the Silverite Mine in Awakening. If there's something else to suggest otherwise, then I've missed it but that's what I've been able to find.



I think every draconic creature that isn't an Old God can't be corrupted (or if they can, Bioware needs to make a different model to show that). I think the Architect was just studying the connection between Darkspawn and Dragons, who are connected to the Old Gods. What better way to study about them then to keep your own Dragon pen?

And considering the Reaver Joining makes the same noise you hear in both the Warden Joining and when you fight Meredith, there has to be a connection.


What about the Dragon Thralls?  They were specified to be dragons corrupted by the taint?


According to the wiki they are, but I take issue with that as there isn't anything in game to say they were indeed corrupted.

Especially since if they were they'd have a different name one would think. You can fight a group consisting of a Drake, Bereskarn, and a few Blight Wolves. But you also fight Drakes throughout the game. If they could be corrupted, wouldn't they have a different name?

I think their blood is linked to the Darkspawn corruption, and that's why they're around Blighted creatures or Darkspawn. I think they can't be corrupted, but they are linked to the Darkspawn corruption.


T3H Fish wrote... I can understand with the Architect, but doesn't explain why one (or two sometimes) shows up at Fort Drakon. The Wiki says they can be corrupted but then the wiki is all fan-base information so...Posted Image

*I also know why I made that silly mistake with the Drakes, I'm too use to the general fantasy of Dragon evolution. Dragon's are kinda my thing Posted Image



See what I said in response to Harid above. That's my take on it.