I hear this a lot. Honestly, what is the appeal of being sarcastic all of the time? Isn't it enough that you have scorn for the other character? Do you really need to make the other character aware of the scorn? How does that benefit anyone?Liaren wrote...
I really liked the fast-paced combat and sarcastic Hawke.
Can't Play DA:O again.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 08:17
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 08:21
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Benefit is added entertainment value. It's a game, Sylvius. Not real life.Sylvius the Mad wrote...
I hear this a lot. Honestly, what is the appeal of being sarcastic all of the time? Isn't it enough that you have scorn for the other character? Do you really need to make the other character aware of the scorn? How does that benefit anyone?Liaren wrote...
I really liked the fast-paced combat and sarcastic Hawke.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 08:23
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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
I hear this a lot. Honestly, what is the appeal of being sarcastic all of the time? Isn't it enough that you have scorn for the other character? Do you really need to make the other character aware of the scorn? How does that benefit anyone?Liaren wrote...
I really liked the fast-paced combat and sarcastic Hawke.
It's part of the character, and as a player, I am in control of that character. If I want Hawke to be sarcastic, I can. That's what makes DA2 a RPG.
We do not have complete control over his words. But we do have control over his character development, and that's enough to make it so.
It's a matter of taste, like the combat. I liked DA2's combat, though I hated the animations used for the Two hander, the rest was fine in my eyes. Still, that's my opinion.
You hated it, and I understand that, it's not your thing :-) I didn't like DA:O's combat, but I love BG's combat
I'm very weird like that.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 08:37
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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
I hear this a lot. Honestly, what is the appeal of being sarcastic all of the time? Isn't it enough that you have scorn for the other character? Do you really need to make the other character aware of the scorn? How does that benefit anyone?
Reasons abound:
* to deflect anger, fear,or pain thru humor.
* to avoid being too direct and blunt in replies.
* to avoid sounding too apologetic and diplomatic.
* to aid another thru a lighthearted response.
* to entertain the Player; not the NPC's.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 09:25
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Hawke wouldn't agree.bzombo wrote...
It's a game, Sylvius. Not real life.
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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Hawke wouldn't agree.bzombo wrote...
It's a game, Sylvius. Not real life.
how does that work?
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 09:28
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From Hawke's point of view, it is real life. His decisions should reflect that.simfamSP wrote...
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Hawke wouldn't agree.bzombo wrote...
It's a game, Sylvius. Not real life.
Having him behave to entertain you, the player, someone who doesn't even exist in his reality, is nonsensical.
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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Having him behave to entertain you, the player, someone who doesn't even exist in his reality, is nonsensical.
Dude, Schroedinger's cat wants out of the box. Seriously.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 09:44
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Sundermount is very...... mountainous...
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 09:47
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tomorrowstation wrote...
If Dragon Age:Origins is The Godfather, then Dragon Age 2 is Goodfellas.
I actually compare DA2 to Scarface frequently.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 09:54
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You all a bunch of cockroaches.
Unless you're talking about the original, I guess. I don't have any catchy phrases from that one.
Unless you're talking about the original, I guess. I don't have any catchy phrases from that one.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 09:58
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I can imagine Sarcastic Hawke shouting say Hello to my lil friend! and then Varric steps out from behind and fires a barrage of arrows..
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 10:01
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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
From Hawke's point of view, it is real life. His decisions should reflect that.
Having him behave to entertain you, the player, someone who doesn't even exist in his reality, is nonsensical.
Unless you, the player, wants to be entertained. Ultimately, the player is in control, not the character. Not everyone wants the same from their roleplaying experiences, you know.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 10:02
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You're playing a game.SparkleWaffle wrote...
Unless you, the player, wants to be entertained. Not everyone wants the same from their roleplaying experiences, you know.
I'm playing a character.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 10:07
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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
You're playing a game.
I'm playing a character.
I'm also playing a character. One that is sarcastic most of the time. It's an archetype that I enjoy playing more than others.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 10:10
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I love it when Varric one-shots in cutscenes.Reno_Tarshil wrote...
I can imagine Sarcastic Hawke shouting say Hello to my lil friend! and then Varric steps out from behind and fires a barrage of arrows..
Say good night to the bad guy! *twang*
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 10:10
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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
I hear this a lot. Honestly, what is the appeal of being sarcastic all of the time? Isn't it enough that you have scorn for the other character? Do you really need to make the other character aware of the scorn? How does that benefit anyone?
Sarcasm isn't about scorn. I'm a very sarcastic person, but very rarely will I be outright malicious. The other person understanding that I am not being literal is very important, because I don't want to convey the literal meaning.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 10:12
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Other than open derision, I don't see any use for sarcasm at all.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 10:13
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"In Kirkwall, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, then you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women."devSin wrote...
You all a bunch of cockroaches.
Unless you're talking about the original, I guess. I don't have any catchy phrases from that one.
But seriously, there are a few similarities between Hawke and Tony Montana. Both were refugees in a foreign country who start out as small-time criminals and rise to power, albeit in radically different ways.
The stories aren't exact copies of each other, of course, and Hawke isn't an Al Pacino clone. But the set-ups are similar.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 10:21
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Captain_Obvious wrote...
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Having him behave to entertain you, the player, someone who doesn't even exist in his reality, is nonsensical.
Dude, Schroedinger's cat wants out of the box. Seriously.
I lol'd so hard at this because all I could see was the discovery channel documentary on that with the little chalk drawing of the cat in the box where it was dead, then alive, then dead, then alive lol. But in response to Sylvius, it's not nonsensical if the particular "hawke" you are playing atm tends to be sarcastic more often than not. I for one, am a very snarky and sarcastic person IRL, just ask my wife heh. So who's to say I cant play a Hawke that is based off of some of my own personality traits? (I.e. mostly sarcastic) Because I almost always play at least one character where I essentially RP "myself" to an extent. What I would do and/or say in the scenarios presented.
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Other than open derision, I don't see any use for sarcasm at all.
Well, it's more about being humorous than being malicious. Alistair is a rather sarcastic person, but he's very rarely toxic.
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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
From Hawke's point of view, it is real life. His decisions should reflect that.simfamSP wrote...
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Hawke wouldn't agree.bzombo wrote...
It's a game, Sylvius. Not real life.
Having him behave to entertain you, the player, someone who doesn't even exist in his reality, is nonsensical.
I see... but how does him being snarky and comical detract from that? You are Hawke, you play as Hawke. You could just as easily be Snarky when the situation you feel allows it, and then be agressive when it doesn't.
For example. Your playing Sarcastic Hawke, right until that quest where that crazy mage comes and makes you... sad (no spoilers thread so I can't say much.) After that quest, you are pretty much agressive through out all of that Act until a companion/LI comes to make you feel better.
When they try, it is up to you to make it seem as if they did or didn't. You could carry on being an emo throughout the rest of the game, or you could pretend that you were until the next Act where you've gotten over the situation. At the end of the day, you are the one who develops Hawke as a character. Not Hakwe.
And forgive me if this is not what you mean, and I've argued against an entierly unrelated subject
if I did. I apologize.
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Posté 01 septembre 2011 - 10:56
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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Other than open derision, I don't see any use for sarcasm at all.
I don't see != there isn't.
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If Dragon Age:Origins is The Godfather, then Dragon Age 2 is Goodfellas.
I tell everyone who asks they are two completely different games.
But see . . . even though I liked both movies . . . Godfather is the superior film by so many measures.
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Posté 02 septembre 2011 - 12:58
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Hanz54321 wrote...
tomorrowstation wrote...
If Dragon Age:Origins is The Godfather, then Dragon Age 2 is Goodfellas.
I tell everyone who asks they are two completely different games.
But see . . . even though I liked both movies . . . Godfather is the superior film by so many measures.
Oh, I agree with that. Godfather is superior in terms of craft, but some days I just wanna have a crapton of fun, and Pesci delivers.
