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Reno_Tarshil wrote...

I just can't. I've been spoiled by the stylish fight gameplay and voiced protagonist, that I can't go back and playthrough Origins. I tried but got quickly bored by how slow everything suddenly felt.

Don't get me wrong I played the hell out of Origins before DA2, but now it just seems so slow moving and not engaging.

Has anyone felt this way?

Quite the opposite! After playing DA2 once I went back to DA:O and liked it even more than before. Well, that's not actually possible, given how much I liked it before. Better to say I appreciated it even more, and became away of how important some aspects were to my enjoyment that I'd taken for granted. DA:O was an absolute masterwork of detail and immersion. I haven't stopped playing it since it came out, while I can't make myself go back for a second DA2, playthrough--although I'm planning to at some point not that there's a mod to get rid of the female run amd walk. I want to play both genders before I pack it away forever, but couldn't  deal with a warrior who runs like a drunken bimbo.

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I prefer the story in Dragon Age Origins. I feel there is more meaning to the quest, there is so much more to explore. I really carried about all the characters and loved chatting to them in the camp i missed being able to chat to your companions like that in DA2. DA: Awakening was very good aswell loved how they added more talents, skills, new moves and characters! The story was great and being Grey Warden Commander was awesome!! :D Soldiers Peak was way too short! It was steep of EA in my opinion to charge €6.99 for a quest that easily could have been in the original game, also the fact that you cannot use the Grey Warden Armour in DA:Awakening or DAO was pure pissing off! seemed pointless!! DA:2 was a very good game but it had the potential to become a landmark game in the DA saga. Hawke is a good and interesting character but I missed picking your race like in DAO. I loaded my save data from DAO into DA2 to be honest there were some slight differences e.g. Merill mentions Mahariel "The Lost Warden". A few mentions here and there of "The Hero of Ferelden". I only came across two quests after loading in DAO save data one from DAO and one DA:Awakening, which was disappointing. But I really did love both games but preferred DAO. Hopefully DA3 will be an epic game, there has been speculation about where the next game will be set, many suspect Orlais which would be cool I would also love to explore Antiva I think it would be a very interesting place! Im a huge fan of Dragon Age!! Lets hope DA3 will be worth the wait!! :D

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Reno_Tarshil wrote...

I just can't. I've been spoiled by the stylish fight gameplay and voiced protagonist, that I can't go back and playthrough Origins. I tried but got quickly bored by how slow everything suddenly felt.

Don't get me wrong I played the hell out of Origins before DA2, but now it just seems so slow moving and not engaging.

Has anyone felt this way?



No.  I´m just working my way through DAO for like tenth time now and already uninstalled DA2 after four playtrough.  DA2 fights are way too unreal/cartoonish for me. To each his own I guess.

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I understand the OP's opinion. I am replaying DAO using the Ultimate Edition PC version. (I bought the original version and Awakening when they were first issued.) The difference in combat between DAO and DA2 is very apparent. The mage is much more fun to play in DA2, IMHO. The animations in DA2 are more fluid than DAO. Combat in DA2 is fun.
I always compare base products without mods. I like both games for different reasons.

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The fighting for me is the opposite. While both have a cadence...DA2 is far more pronounced and obvious. Slash-slash-slash-jump-slash-slash-slash-jump was too much like a beat of a song than combat. While I agree the mage is better in DA2...the rest of the combat for me is laughable.

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I liked DA2's story FAR more better then Awakening's that DLC needed a better story plus a talking darkspawn?come on darkspawn are tainted they cant talk.

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the apostate mage combat in dragon age 2 compared to that leaning back circle mage combat in dragon age....hell yeah! im actually on my seventh playthrough...salem hawke looks like she is from rivain though

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Even though in DA2 you're simply "actively" autoattacking by pressing a single button. But to me, it adds a bit of an extra dynamic to the already tactical combat or Origins. Because now, not only do I have to monitor the battlefield (ala Origins) But now I have to take an actual "active" role in combat by manually attacking with my weapon along with the usual activation of spells and talents. Translation; I cant sleep through combat in DA2 like I could in Origins (quite literally in some cases even on nightmare).

Interesting, i find it quite the opposite -- because there's element of delay when it comes to executing orders in DAO, i have to anticipate and watch the battlefield much more closer than in DA2. That's mainly why the DA2 combat is to me so boring -- i don't really have to monitor the battlefield when i play it and i can get through the game with just basic whack-a-mole, only responding to situation as it develops.

Perhaps it's different feeling with the PC version because i don't have to constantly press a button, so there's nothing to fill the hole left by the simplified gameplay.

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I tried. I think it's a combination of being burnt out (I played the hell out of that game) and the pacing. I just can't spend days in the Deep Roads anymore and I HATE the damn Fade. It's just tedious and a chore. The best part about Origins...is really the end. (I mean that in a good way...the whole rallying at Denerim part. And the Landsmeet).

But I do want to finish my two handed weapon female warrior from Highever. (I'm tired and forgetting their last name...sad...) She's a bit like Brienne (>oraveline<) from Song of Fire and Ice. A bit homely, but loyal. There's no corruption in her, which is a rarity for my characters. Annnd I'm on a tangent. Point is, I want to finish it...but I'm not sure I ever will.

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Alexander1136 wrote...

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

I just can't. I've been spoiled by the stylish fight gameplay and voiced protagonist, that I can't go back and playthrough Origins. I tried but got quickly bored by how slow everything suddenly felt.

Don't get me wrong I played the hell out of Origins before DA2, but now it just seems so slow moving and not engaging.

Has anyone felt this way?


are you being sarcastic? da2 sucks ass:huh:



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Really?  That's your brilliant input?  Next time you get the urge, stifle it.  You'll actually be doing yourself a favor more than anyone else. 

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dragonfire100 wrote...

I liked DA2's story FAR more better then Awakening's that DLC needed a better story plus a talking darkspawn?come on darkspawn are tainted they cant talk.


Well a full game should have a better story than a DLC or an expansion. But some have said they thought Legacy was better than DA2's story or wished Legacy was the focus not what we got. Have you played Legacy? I guess not.

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FieryDove wrote...

dragonfire100 wrote...

I liked DA2's story FAR more better then Awakening's that DLC needed a better story plus a talking darkspawn?come on darkspawn are tainted they cant talk.


Well a full game should have a better story than a DLC or an expansion. But some have said they thought Legacy was better than DA2's story or wished Legacy was the focus not what we got. Have you played Legacy? I guess not.

No i have the game on 360 and i have no microsoft points right now but i seen it on youtube and it was great better then awakening's flawed story but even if the story on DA2 was off the gameplay was geat and the fact your charater could talk.

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dragonfire100 wrote...

No i have the game on 360 and i have no microsoft points right now but i seen it on youtube and it was great better then awakening's flawed story but even if the story on DA2 was off the gameplay was geat and the fact your charater could talk.


What? Legacy is very much *like* awakening. Play it because the you tubes you must have watched don't paint the story apparently.

I am talking story. If you want to bring in game play, voiced charcater and combat mechanics etc. That is a whole different discussion. (And I'll probably disagree) I won't say anymore as this is a no spoilers area and also you haven't played it.

edit: Legacy has the same story component you complained about in awakening. (Boggle) Image IPB

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FieryDove wrote...

dragonfire100 wrote...

No i have the game on 360 and i have no microsoft points right now but i seen it on youtube and it was great better then awakening's flawed story but even if the story on DA2 was off the gameplay was geat and the fact your charater could talk.


What? Legacy is very much *like* awakening. Play it because the you tubes you must have watched don't paint the story apparently.

I am talking story. If you want to bring in game play, voiced charcater and combat mechanics etc. That is a whole different discussion. (And I'll probably disagree) I won't say anymore as this is a no spoilers area and also you haven't played it.

edit: Legacy has the same story component you complained about in awakening. (Boggle) Image IPB

Is that my wrong? i dont even have MS points yetImage IPBwell anyway DAA was bad for its own reason DA2L was not as bad as DAA reason why because on DA2L they never got rid of the party you were with and putted one party member you knew on DAA i was so mad that ogren was the only party member i knew in the party and i was made atleast not alistar was not gona be there.

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#115
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Is that my wrong? i dont even have MS points yetImage IPBwell anyway DAA was bad for its own reason DA2L was not as bad as DAA reason why because on DA2L they never got rid of the party you were with and putted one party member you knew on DAA i was so mad that ogren was the only party member i knew in the party and i was made atleast not alistar was not gona be there.


So you didn't like DAA because Alistair wasn't in it and Oghren was? Ok. I am not going to argue that. It's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

I will say an expansion doesn't have nearly the same level of resources a full game does and there was no way to bring the entire DAO cast into it financially.

If you are comparing dlc be fair. Yes you can bring anyone from DA2 party into Legacy. You could with WK, SP and RTO for DAO also.
 

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errant_knight wrote...

Reno_Tarshil wrote...

I just can't. I've been spoiled by the stylish fight gameplay and voiced protagonist, that I can't go back and playthrough Origins. I tried but got quickly bored by how slow everything suddenly felt.

Don't get me wrong I played the hell out of Origins before DA2, but now it just seems so slow moving and not engaging.

Has anyone felt this way?

Quite the opposite! After playing DA2 once I went back to DA:O and liked it even more than before. Well, that's not actually possible, given how much I liked it before. Better to say I appreciated it even more, and became away of how important some aspects were to my enjoyment that I'd taken for granted. DA:O was an absolute masterwork of detail and immersion. I haven't stopped playing it since it came out, while I can't make myself go back for a second DA2, playthrough--although I'm planning to at some point not that there's a mod to get rid of the female run amd walk. I want to play both genders before I pack it away forever, but couldn't  deal with a warrior who runs like a drunken bimbo.


This^ so much, but that last line had me near fall off of my chair.
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I had to struggle to finish my first play through of DA2, it was a case of only the characters and story allowing me to tolerate the combat system then I went back to DA:A to finish off my mage and rogue and the first time I could get a real tactical overview of the battle field it was heaven. I am on my 3rd play through of DA2 (1.03 changes combat enough to make it bearable) and still the only improvements over DA:O/A are a voiced protagonist and better digital acting. I don't have an urge to play more DA:O but that is largely because I have done the stuff that interests me, I could finish off my Dalish Elf warden but I doubt it would differ enough from any other play through to make the 100+ hour time investment worth while. You can stick me with the dissapointed in DA2 crowd rather than the hate it crowd..."if it aint broke why are you fixing it?" basically sums up my view.

I'm rather puzzeled by the hate over the fade...I found that section fun. I like the fade...the crazy stuff all around you, the shapeshifting, the bizzarre situations, the never knowing up from down or left from right. But to each their own.

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Spell Singer wrote...
I'm rather puzzeled by the hate over the fade...I found that section fun. I like the fade...the crazy stuff all around you, the shapeshifting, the bizzarre situations, the never knowing up from down or left from right. But to each their own.

First time through, I thought it was absolutely fantastic. When I hit it the second time, I thought it was a little tiresome. Anything after that would feel tedious.

And I thought the deep roads were far too long the first time around.

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Hahaa, OP, I am so glad to hear that. I thought I was crazy, preferring the way DA2 plays over DAO. Like you said, the difference in speed is really noticeable. DAO feels a little bit like walking through molasses nowadays. I don't know exactly what it is, maybe the animations take too long or something?

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AmstradHero wrote...

Spell Singer wrote...
I'm rather puzzeled by the hate over the fade...I found that section fun. I like the fade...the crazy stuff all around you, the shapeshifting, the bizzarre situations, the never knowing up from down or left from right. But to each their own.

First time through, I thought it was absolutely fantastic. When I hit it the second time, I thought it was a little tiresome. Anything after that would feel tedious.

And I thought the deep roads were far too long the first time around.


Well I played through only 3 times so I guess that explains it.  But I just like the fade period it is one of the best ideas they had for the DA setting and it never seems to grow old for me. 

The deep roads were far too long especially since I never found the "merchant" the first time I played (I found the NPC I just didn't think he was a merchant) and I never exited the deep roads once starting them on any play through.  The first time through every loot check after the spider was a prayer for either a healing potion of any sort or else some elfroot.  Every fight acquired a degree of tension since I was rapidly running out of healing and sorting out that stupid rotating head near the end left me utterly ticked off as by the time I finished that the first time I had less than 4 high quality healing potions left.  A certain mad dwarf's damage over time corruption burst ability really really got overpowering at that point.  Even by the the third play through I was running low on healing by the end (after increasing my starting amount for playthrough 2 and increasing it again for play through 3).  That is just one long slog...with a huge number of "boss" or "mini-boss" encounters and I think some of the "fixed-random" encounters are worse.

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Currently on my 6th playthrough and I still haven't got bored.
Nothing wrong with the combat.
Deep Roads not long enough. Come to think of it, game not long enough!!!!!

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Yep i love the depth of the orgins but honestly cant stand the combat now that ive played dragon age 2.

In the perfect world they would release a remake of orgins using the lycium engine everything intact with just a new combat system and some graphic overhauls.

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#123
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Let's see... I just finished my 20th play-through on DA:O, so I would have to say that I don't have a problem playing the game again.

Yes, the combat is slower compared to DA2, but that isn't always a bad thing. With the slower combat I can actually see- in greater detail- who, or what, I am fighting... and I don't feel like some human blender set on high-speed- just whirling and chopping my way through whatever is in my path. Image IPB

Although I love playing both of the Dragon Age games, you can get a little burnt out playing them after a while... which is why I went back to playing ME2.

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I recently played DAO through and i still love it, combat is slower but still fun.

Archdemon fight is always epic.

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Reno_Tarshil wrote...

I just can't. I've been spoiled by the stylish fight gameplay and voiced protagonist, that I can't go back and playthrough Origins. I tried but got quickly bored by how slow everything suddenly felt.


Pro tip: Play/replay Mass Effect 1/2. :)