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[Lotion Soronarr]

marstor05 wrote...

a choice maybe early in the game that makes taking one for the team inevitable? Maybe Project Lazarus only gave him a limited lifespan?

Or maybe let him live and have little sheps with Ash & his mistress Miranda?

Humanity is almost destroyed. Normany crash lands on some planet.
Now Shep, Kelly, Miranda, Ash, Kasumi and Jack have to re-populate!

Best...ending..EVER

[marstor05]

Maybe the choice to save the council or not in ME1 could have dire consequences. Save em and you get rescued after the final mission of ME3. Let em die and you are on your own - and die.

[Savber100]

Luc0s wrote...

What would be epic:

Whether Shepard lives or dies depends on earlier choices in ME3. Maybe it even depends on choices made in ME2 and ME1?


What I loved in The Witcher is that some choices had major consequences MUCH LATER in the game. So when you made a decision, the consequences of that decision weren't known until much later in the game.

Mass Effect needs that kind of decisions too.

Well seeing how the Rachni and the Council decision are all stuff from the first game, I'll probably say that counts as major consequences from "much later" if Bioware pulls it off in ME3. Witcher 2 just happens to just take up one entire game while ME trilogy is taking up three games. 

Modifié par Savber100, 23 août 2011 - 09:27 .

[Candidate 88766]

Because he already died at the start of ME2, I think that him dying at the end of ME3 will lose a lot of the impact it could have had. Unless it turns out that Project Lazarus was only a partial success - that they only managed to bring Shepard back for a short time, perhaps long enough to defeat the Reapers but not much longer. That could be an interesting twist - throughout the game Shepard is dying and growing weaker, and it becomes a toss-up between ensuring Shepard is well enough to fight, and the fleets you're commanding have been built up enough. Get it wrong, and the galaxy burns.

Or, even less likely, they could go with a kind of Deus Ex vibe - in order to stay well Shepard can enhance and improve his body with cybernetics, but if he does this too much then the Reapers can gain control of him much faster than normal and the game ends with Shepard having to fight against his own indoctrination, perhaps fighting his squadmates without even knowing it.

[Phategod1]

CommanderWilliams wrote...

ME3 is upon us, and no one knows what will happen. My question is, do you think Shepard will canonically die? Would be an interesting ending to the Legend of Shepard.

Something I think would be cool is the ultimate Paragon or Renegade choice, you must choice between Shepards life and the entire Normabdy crew.

Its my belief there is no canon just consequense One of those consequenses will be the death of Shepard.

Modifié par Phategod1, 23 août 2011 - 09:53 .

[Arppis]

Luc0s wrote...

@Arppis:

No, your version is too easy and it doesn't have a situation were both Shep and LI survive.


My version is actually really hard. Shep + LI dies, or whole Normandy and squad dies so Shep and LI can live. Oooooooo what to choose?

Ah? Don't have a LI in the game! So the option where I save the Normandy. And because it doesn't have sittulation where both survive makes it harder.

[Feanor_II]

I think that it will be similar to DA:O, Sheppard may die or not, also at the end some of the decisions will have a good outcome and others not, it won't be a 100% happy nor sad ending, just something in between, depending in our decisions.

[Cimeas]

While I kind of want to see a bittersweet ending, I know I won't be happy unless there is some way to get a 'perfect' ending. There should be a way to get a perfect ending, even if it's super hard and not signposted. (Kind of like saving Kirrahe in ME1)

[KainrycKarr]

Clearly some aren't familiar with Bioware.

Some endings will have him die. Some will have him live. And everything in between. It's always like that in BW games.

[Aradace]

CommanderWilliams wrote...

ME3 is upon us, and no one knows what will happen. My question is, do you think Shepard will canonically die? Would be an interesting ending to the Legend of Shepard.

Something I think would be cool is the ultimate Paragon or Renegade choice, you must choice between Shepards life and the entire Normabdy crew.

Yeaaaaaaaa....Seeing as how Im sick of the cliche "Heroic Sacrafice" bs, Im pretty sure I'd end up selling my copy of ME3 at that point.  Kratos pulled that crap at the end of GoW 3 and it made me hate the entire franchise because of it.  Im sorry but, falling on my own sword so to speak just has 0 appeal in my eyes.

[Aradace]

marstor05 wrote...

Maybe the choice to save the council or not in ME1 could have dire consequences. Save em and you get rescued after the final mission of ME3. Let em die and you are on your own - and die.

Doubtful.  Only because that would mean the only way to make sure you live is to do the paragon choice at the end of ME1.  BW isnt going to do something like that because too many players would feel they were being "punished" for not going paragon.

[nitefyre410]

see the problem with all this is the Bioware does not know how the pull of a bittersweet ending. There has to be a some kind of investment from the player about the main character and since we played how Shepard how we wanted to, developed him or her how we wanted the player base is not going to accept it. Bittersweet would have worked if there less choice involved over the three games.

[mopotter]

CommanderWilliams wrote...

ME3 is upon us, and no one knows what will happen. My question is, do you think Shepard will canonically die? Would be an interesting ending to the Legend of Shepard.

Something I think would be cool is the ultimate Paragon or Renegade choice, you must choice between Shepards life and the entire Normabdy crew.

I HATED Fall Out 3's ending before broken steel. Was going to trash the game when I found out there was a DLC that would take care of it.

 If my choices in a  past game  causes one of the ending to require Shepard death to save the galexy then I'm fine with that, I have a Shepard who would do it.   But one of ending should have Shepard and his team, including LI if there is one survives if you take the time to do whatever you have to do for this ending to happen.  

If  the ONLY ending choice is  for Shepard, a LI or different member of the team dieing, there would be no reason for me to play more than one game.   I'd just get rid of ME3 and go back to playing the previous games I can get a great ending in ME1 and where depending on my decisions and choices I can bring everyone through the end fight in ME2.  

I have a lot of saved games and if there is just one ending, I'll be pissed.  There needs to be more than one ending, and I have some confidence that there will be.  

If theer were just one ending style - chose a or b to die - I'd also have to re-think pre ordering any game BW put out in the future.  I don't play video games to find out what it feels like to have friends die.  I already know that feeling and it's unpleasant.  I play video games to have fun and having a "We Survived" ending is required if I'm going to re-play it.    I would  no longer pre-order and just wait till it's out,  find out what the endings are and then decide if I want to get it. Which is what I do with game companies I don't know.  Two companies get my pre-orders.  BioWare and Bethesda Fall-Out and Elder Scrolls.  

 One of the thing I did like about ME2 was the possibility for getting everyone out if you worked at it or followed the cheat sheets which I don't do.  I have a couple of game where everyone survives and I always do the upgrades becuase that just makes sense, but I usually have deaths becuase I side with someone in an argument or don't pick someone up.  I have a game without Thane and one without Samara.  

That's one of the things I enjoy, there are so many different options I can chose and i want options in ME3 endings.  I haven't been playing the ME series for this many years to have a depressing suck ending for every saved game I have. 

[Reever]

marshalleck wrote...

Boiny Bunny wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Shepard already did canonically die. It was just a minor setback. If Shepard dies again he can just be Lazarused again. Death isn't final and frankly thanks to ME2 opening scenes, it's meaningless and without impact.

That is of course, assuming the body can be recovered.  If Shepard was say incinerated by a Reaper laser, there would be no Lazurus project to bring him/her back.

But it would still lack impact, since we've all seen Shepard die in the line of duty. Killing the protagonist of a story isn't something one should do lightly, and Bioware did it. Now it has cheapened any "heroic sacrifice" that could be made at the conclusion of the trilogy. 

Oh come on, you are exaggerating! This is not Dragonball, where everyone can be revived anytime! It was a one time thing, and even Shepard dying at the end of the suicide mission was pretty heroic, and it didn´t cheapen anything!
And do you really think anybody would think of reviving him a second time after the Reaper´s defeat? I personally don´t think it would cheapen a possible sacrifice at all.

And we will get an explanation about the Lazarus project. Then we´ll possibly have another standpoint (till then, I view his dying more or less as a game mechanic...).

[Seboist]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

marstor05 wrote...

a choice maybe early in the game that makes taking one for the team inevitable? Maybe Project Lazarus only gave him a limited lifespan?

Or maybe let him live and have little sheps with Ash & his mistress Miranda?

Humanity is almost destroyed. Normany crash lands on some planet.
Now Shep, Kelly, Miranda, Ash, Kasumi and Jack have to re-populate!

Best...ending..EVER

You left out Chakwas and Gabby!

[Aradace]

Seboist wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

marstor05 wrote...

a choice maybe early in the game that makes taking one for the team inevitable? Maybe Project Lazarus only gave him a limited lifespan?

Or maybe let him live and have little sheps with Ash & his mistress Miranda?

Humanity is almost destroyed. Normany crash lands on some planet.
Now Shep, Kelly, Miranda, Ash, Kasumi and Jack have to re-populate!

Best...ending..EVER

You left out Chakwas and Gabby!

Nahhh....Chakwas is a dried up old prune as it is.  Her eggs are probably just as dried up 

[Seboist]

Aradace wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

marstor05 wrote...

a choice maybe early in the game that makes taking one for the team inevitable? Maybe Project Lazarus only gave him a limited lifespan?

Or maybe let him live and have little sheps with Ash & his mistress Miranda?

Humanity is almost destroyed. Normany crash lands on some planet.
Now Shep, Kelly, Miranda, Ash, Kasumi and Jack have to re-populate!

Best...ending..EVER

You left out Chakwas and Gabby!

Nahhh....Chakwas is a dried up old prune as it is.  Her eggs are probably just as dried up 

It's the future! The power of science makes anything possible!

[Aradace]

@Seboist - SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Seboist]

Chakwas is one hot momma. If I was Shepard she'd be the first one I'd chase after.

[Aradace]

Seboist wrote...

Chakwas is one hot momma. If I was Shepard she'd be the first one I'd chase after.

Someone likes cougars lol 

I cant saying anything though, my wife is 10 years my senior so I can understand the appeal of an older woman 

[crimzontearz]

Luckily enough either Casey or Ray already hinted at post campaign play in ME3 which means they are most probaly not forcing a Shepard Death on us (thank god). Here to hoping we will have our full range of endings