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[Volus Warlord]

CommanderWilliams wrote...

Last time I checked, you don't have sex in your underwear. Unless you've got a fetish or something idk lol.
My point with this was, if the game is already M rated because of amass amounts of violence, why not show some side boob. Maybe its just me, but DA2 kicked up the violence, and toned down the sex, as in, it doesn't exist.

Isabella didn't wear pants, lol. A woman as trampish as she is needs to expedite the process and now she simply raises her shirt and lowers it again.

[CommanderWilliams]

Volus Warlord wrote...

CommanderWilliams wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Kelly getting melted down wasn't that bad. I rather enjoyed it. She was SO annoying...

The colonist was a shame though.

Also, stop trying to make ME3 an interactive porno.

This made me laugh, I liked Kelly.

This would hardly make it an interactive porno. I'm not voting to show Tali getting pounded, just Jacks nips (thats all we dont see) for a minute.

Don't give the Talimancer's any ideas.

Nips are almost certainly out of the question, and for good reason. (younger audience + Fox News + ....)

Besides, ME2 was absolutely loaded with absolutely shameless boob and ass shots. Go talk to Jack or Miranda.

You're just being needlessly demanding here.

Truthfully, this isalso about that line that ME2 didn't cross. It's perfectly okay to show everything but the nipple, but God forbid...

Besides, the game is rated M, and no one takes FN Seriousiously. I'm not trying to start a debate with you, let me assure you, I was just making a point.

[Volus Warlord]

I'm not saying you were, I just feel that such measures are unnecessary complications.

[Chuvvy]

You can see REAL ****** in a PG-13 movie. You should be able to see animated ****** in an M rated game, but people want to make a big debate about it, **** ain't logical.

[ThePwener]

If you aren't mature enough to play a game with real nudity and enjoy it (no, not that way) then you shouldn't be exposed to any kind of media.

Nudity isn't that big of a deal. some claim it degrades the young, but it isn't a damn porno, no penetration shown. Well, I knew about the birds and the bees when I was 4 and a half (no joke), and that was the 90s. It's the 21st century, we should be able to see nipples and a little bush without pulling a shameful FOX.

We claim to be adults yet show otherwise.

[Volus Warlord]

Slidell505 wrote...

You can see REAL ****** in a PG-13 movie. You should be able to see animated ****** in an M rated game, but people want to make a big debate about it, **** ain't logical.

Son, if you think the world is about what's logical you've much to learn...

But that is besides the point.  I really don't care about what the game is rated.

Miranda screaming "here's my boobs," much as some of you would enjoy it, is not what the game's about, and can potentially cause some problems for the publisher.  Many of you plan on buying the game either way; it sure as hell isn't a make it or break it measure. I'd be concerned if it was.  But the cost to benefit does not line up.

That and the Talimancers would complain about the romance not being revealing enough.

[ThePwener]

Slidell505 wrote...

You can see REAL ****** in a PG-13 movie. You should be able to see animated ****** in an M rated game, but people want to make a big debate about it, **** ain't logical.

Give it a few years. I have the talent of seeing the larger picture and how things turn out and the way things are going, movies will be replaced by the gaming industry. It's freaking obvious.

Have you seen the kind of movies lately? No new material or fresh faces are coming in. Movies plain suck these days. People spent more and more time at home, and gaming is creeping in as a good time killer and soon people will want to merge the two. Interactive movies are born. You can't have those in a theather.

Modifié par ThePwener, 23 août 2011 - 03:15 .

[Icinix]

@Volus Warlord -

Your avatar next to the thread title in the thread list goes together like chilli and chicken.


On Topic - Couldn't really care less about nudity. What I care about is how the scene is handled through dialogue and interaction getting to that point. But I honestly cannot see how nudity adds anything to a game. Seriously? What are you gaining by seeing a pair of rendered boobies?

[Davie McG]

I know, as I said in my post on page 1, if your making a game with mature content why suddenly back-pedal when it comes to sex. If anyone is fine with showing people being turned into pulp, and being riddled with bullets, but not O.K. with the sight of a naked human being then they need to get a grip.

[KingNothing125]

yeah no, let's skip the gratuitous nudity. "There's lots of gore, so let's have nudity too!" is not a good argument.

(Implied) nudity that is contextually appropriate, ala ME1, is fine.

[SNascimento]

I agree.
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HBO level sex scenes now!

[Volus Warlord]

Icinix wrote...

@Volus Warlord -

Your avatar next to the thread title in the thread list goes together like chilli and chicken.


On Topic - Couldn't really care less about nudity. What I care about is how the scene is handled through dialogue and interaction getting to that point. But I honestly cannot see how nudity adds anything to a game. Seriously? What are you gaining by seeing a pair of rendered boobies?

Hehe. Did not think of that one.

Honestly I wonder if the people who suggest such measures are after masturbatory material rather than say, i dunno, a good game? I think the overemphasis on romances is kinda gross and destructive in the long run. If you can see it somewhere else, go somewhere else for it.  Trying to force stuff in ME that doesn't necessarily belong  just seems.. unwise?

Modifié par Volus Warlord, 23 août 2011 - 03:21 .

[CommanderWilliams]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Son, if you think the world is about what's logical you've much to learn...

Here in lies the problem.

[Inutaisho7996]

Slidell505 wrote...

You can see REAL ****** in a PG-13 movie. You should be able to see animated ****** in an M rated game, but people want to make a big debate about it, **** ain't logical.

The "It's M rated so it should be able have nudity" arguement is really stupid and immature. In Mass Effect, nudity needs to be treated respectfully. Nudity has to actually add to the scene, not just be there for titillation. 

The scenes between Geralt and Triss in the Witcher 2 demostrate this perfectly. Here (NSFW) when we see Triss for the first time, Geralt's reaction to waking up from his nightmare and seeing Triss tells us a lot about their relationship before we even know who this woman is. This (NSFW) scene starts out well, and if it ended at 2:44, it would have been another mature scene. But after that, it shows sever cuts of Triss and Geralt in different positions that don't actually add to the emotion of the scene, and they're just there to show naked people.

As I said before, the scenes in Mass Effect 2 wouldn't have been improved with nudity. We've already seen Garrus and Shepard share an intimate moment when they touch heads. We don't need to see Shepard's butt while she's crawling over Garrus.

Modifié par Inutaisho7996, 23 août 2011 - 03:24 .

[ThePwener]

SNascimento wrote...

I agree.
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HBO level sex scenes now!

Ok, not to that level. HBO sex scenes are just gross *cough* Hunk *cough*. I don't want two sweaty figures simulating penetration. That is just plain g-r-o-s-s.

[marshalleck]

fully rendered alien vag, right video game romancers?

[Davie McG]

If you read my previous post you would know I agree with that, and no one is saying because there is violence there should be nudity.

All anyone wants is for Bioware to take these characters seriously, the way any decent book or film or T.V. show would. If its appropriate to the story then I see no reason games should shy away from violence, drug use or scenes of a sexual nature. If this industry wants to be taken seriously as an art form on par with film T.V. and books then it must explore serious subject matter in a mature and appropriate way.

[Icinix]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Icinix wrote...

@Volus Warlord -

Your avatar next to the thread title in the thread list goes together like chilli and chicken.


On Topic - Couldn't really care less about nudity. What I care about is how the scene is handled through dialogue and interaction getting to that point. But I honestly cannot see how nudity adds anything to a game. Seriously? What are you gaining by seeing a pair of rendered boobies?

Hehe. Did not think of that one.

Honestly I wonder if the people who suggest such measures are after masturbatory material rather than say, i dunno, a good game? I think the overemphasis on romances is kinda gross and destructive in the long run. If you can see it somewhere else, go somewhere else for it.  Trying to force stuff in ME that doesn't necessarily belong  just seems.. unwise?

Yeah - exactly. I would rather them take that additional animation / texturing time for combat animations or something additional to the game that add nudity for the sake of ...well..for the sake of nudity.

Don't get me wrong, I have zero issue with it. But it seems like an odd things to be screaming out NEEDS to be in there when there are dozens of other things that would add far more to the game.

[Unpleasant Implications]

Chun Hei wrote...

I am not demanding that Bioware show skin but I will not object if they do. I HATE going half way though. If you are going to go through the trouble of rendering a long sex scene like DA:O why bother with the underwear? Why all the ME2 dry humping? Either cut to black like DA2 or use strategic camera angles if you do not want to show nudity.

This.

[SpEcIaLRyAn]

*Flashes back to GTA: San Andreas*

[dnovy]

I imagine an Adult rating would mean less money for the game developers. I'm not one for cartoon nudity really.

[Volus Warlord]

ThePwener wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

I agree.
.
HBO level sex scenes now!

Ok, not to that level. HBO sex scenes are just gross *cough* Hunk *cough*. I don't want two sweaty figures simulating penetration. That is just plain g-r-o-s-s.

Here lies another problem! The line between sexy and digusting!

Highly variable from person to person.. no real way to know where it is!

Let's see how much you love a character after they do something that has you mopping up your vomit!

[Lord of Mu]

ThePwener wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

I agree.
.
HBO level sex scenes now!

Ok, not to that level. HBO sex scenes are just gross *cough* Hunk *cough*. I don't want two sweaty figures simulating penetration. That is just plain g-r-o-s-s.

Game of thrones level sex scenes. I was a little surprised that they'd show so much. I expect  to see a lot from international films but never American productions, not unless it's a porno.

I think the underware sex scens from DA:O are on a pretty decent level. Lets face it, most of the people who purchase ME 3 should have seen the real thing anyway, 16+.

Modifié par Lord of Mu, 23 août 2011 - 03:29 .

[Heather Cline]

I'd rather see what we saw in ME1 for romance. Tastefully done and nothing else. We don't need full frontal nudity or anything like that. Something done in a very tasteful tone is more than enough.

[CommanderWilliams]

Okay, maybe seeing vag is going too far. I'm speaking mainly boobs, simply because the double standard needs to break. Men can show their nipples, but women cant. Nobody wants to see Garrus's junk, so let's not see Miranda lower reaches.

Let's take Splatterhouse 2010 for examle (great game btw), It was extremely violent, and still managed to show boobs with an M rating, and it worked.