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[ThePwener]

Jeth Prime wrote...

Why don't you finish that quote?
"No need to sex up the games any more than they are."
For the third time, I say the romance is fine is is.

Again, learn to read.

This exchange is over....

I know what you said, no need to finish the quote as it doesn't add anything relevant, I just did. I however disagree on ME1's and specially 2's sex scenes. Full blown nudity isn't a bad thing, people make it bad.

After seeing that Witcher sex scene, it gives me hope. did it turn me on? No. Did it make me tingle? No, because Im mature (or I try to be most of the time anyway).

Nice finisher btw.

[2Hard2C]

Davie McG wrote...

Blitzkrieg0811 wrote...

You mean give Faux News even more ammo against us? Sure, by all means. Let's help Bill O'Reilly look like an uninformed ass, even though he doesn't need the help

Do people actually take Fox News seriously? I mean it's laughable.

In the part of America I live in, it IS a viable news station. And take it seriously, dead serious.

I simply avoid talking about politics with them, because they are all very misinformed and it is very irritateing to talk to them about it.

[Lord of Mu]

Ihatebadgames wrote...

"What about the Children?"It's a M rated game,if it was a movie there would be T&A.The little rug-rats should not be playing this game.

"What about the children?" or "Think of the children" is the female equivalent to roshambo. 

[medcsu]

Davie McG wrote...

Blitzkrieg0811 wrote...

You mean give Faux News even more ammo against us? Sure, by all means. Let's help Bill O'Reilly look like an uninformed ass, even though he doesn't need the help

Do people actually take Fox News seriously? I mean it's laughable.

I sure do. Their reports about the illegal alien issue are solid. I think people take them about as serious as people take CNN and (barf) MSNBC. All 3 have idiot hosts on some shows and all 3 have solid hosts on some shows.

So what?

Modifié par medcsu, 23 août 2011 - 04:10 .

[Volus Warlord]

ThePwener wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

It's not about that silly!

I think such pursuits will sacrifice other, more vital parts of the game! EA only gives them so much time to get that crap shipped! And you would jeopardize core elements of the game so that you can play with a sticky controller! It's not about maturity or ethics. It's about prioritizing development. Hell, look at DA2!

No, you don't know what it's about. We're not discussing data constarints here, but the amoral aspect of the issue.

Well, well, well. You don't like the arguments on nudity on the basis of morals! Let me enlighten you.

You will rationalize your predisposition in any way you can.

Those that argue against your predispostion will rationalize that view in any way they can.

Nobody with half a spine will be swayed either way in a moral argument. :happy: You don't have to be a genius to know that!

So, rather than attempt to use utterly useless moral arguments, like "other people do it, therefore its okay" or "other people find it unacceptable, therefore it is unacceptable," I try to focus on more tangible elements impacted as repurcussions. Like money. And time. And something along the lines of foresight. To see what the end result will be. Your end result really doesn't show any tremendous positives-showing more skin doesn't appear to be worth the money, time and effort it calls for. 

But by all means, keep up your moral argument!

[ThePwener]

Ihatebadgames wrote...

"What about the Children?"It's a M rated game,if it was a movie there would be T&A.The little rug-rats should not be playing this game.

I know your probably just joking, but if "kids" get a "hold" of this "game" then it's the parent's/store's fault. Not the industry's. The rating is there, they did they're job.

[DaringMoosejaw]

Ihatebadgames wrote...

"What about the Children?"It's a M rated game,if it was a movie there would be T&A.The little rug-rats should not be playing this game.

Exactly. Even without laws explicitly saying they can't, selling a game with a rating that high to someone not suitable has repercussions and usually doesn't happen. If it does, it's a failure of parenting, but the parents of course would rather point fingers than be parents.

Modifié par DaringMoosejaw, 23 août 2011 - 04:12 .

[Flashflame58]

Blitzkrieg0811 wrote...

Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...

Now look see,in all seriousness see.sex is the most mature thing possbile see.but when it comes down to good'ol fashion "fun" see.it becomes a pleasure like the leather off the bat see

Its all about the fade to black scene and the moaining see,be honest thats all you guys care about see

Eddie Murphy speaks the truth

moanin and groanin see 

[force192]

I don't want there to be any nudity in this game.

[medcsu]

I would like to know why people want to see ******, a boneshow scene or why the hell they care so much about something so utterly worthless to the story and finale of one of the greatest game series' of all time?

I mean....really? Why does seeing some tata's on a screen really matter to you? I'm being serious too? Why do you care so much about this? No problem if you get off on pixels...everyone has their likes I reckon.

Anyhow, I would much rather see the work going into important things like ...... oh I dont know ...... story line for the Reapers, combat ..... you know.....the stuff that actually we will be doing in the game when some "men" are too busy with their hent....oh nevermind.

[Jeth Prime]

Lord of Mu wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...

"What about the Children?"It's a M rated game,if it was a movie there would be T&A.The little rug-rats should not be playing this game.

"What about the children?" or "Think of the children" is the female equivalent to roshambo. 

www.youtube.com/watch

[2Hard2C]

Jeth Prime wrote...

2Hard2C wrote...

medcsu wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Jeth Prime wrote...

Yeah.... No need to sex up the games any more than they are. That's not why I(and I imagine most mature players) play games, or like Mass Effect.

Story is all it needs. If there were never a sex scene in either game, I wouldn't miss it. The romance is fine the way it is.... Although, they may have gone a bit too far into the interspecies relations, but I'm not complaining.

Grow up. Sex is part of being Human. Don't want it? Don't do it (you have a choice). But don't pretend it's being forced on you.

EXACTLY! It is part of being HUMAN, not part of pretending to be a human in a video game. Wow, amazing how one can differentiate between real sex and uber fake pixel boobies.

Conversly, the argument could be made that nudity would make the romances more real and thus more believable and thus makes them better and thus the game better. Ipsofacto nudity makes the game better.

What? Seeing them bone doesn't make it more real.... I'm sure there are lots of real life romances out there, in which the couple would preffer not to be watched.

Did I ever say that I believe sex should be in the game? I think you missed that. I just feel that nudity would the romances more believable. And that believability would make them better, and by making a major part of the game better, the game becomes better. So nudity done right, would make the game better.

[The Minority]

I like teh bewbs. Everything needs more bewbs.

[medcsu]

Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...

medcsu wrote...

Davie McG wrote...

Blitzkrieg0811 wrote...

You mean give Faux News even more ammo against us? Sure, by all means. Let's help Bill O'Reilly look like an uninformed ass, even though he doesn't need the help

Do people actually take Fox News seriously? I mean it's laughable.

I sure do. Their reports about the illegal alien issue are solid. I think people take them about as serious as people take CNN and (barf) MSNBC. All 3 have idiot hosts on some shows and all 3 have solid hosts on some shows.

So what?

Id rather watch Jihad propaganda before watching any "creditable" Fox news show

Good for you. I'm sure most liberals feel this way.

[ThePwener]

Jeth Prime wrote...

What? Seeing them bone doesn't make it more real.... I'm sure there are lots of real life romances out there, in which the couple would preffer not to be watched.

We're not talking about "boning" anyone. Just nudity. Everything else's is up to the imagination. The last part is just stupid.

[Kaiser Shepard]

No nudity, please.

[Clonedzero]

nudity is great. absolutely nothing wrong with it, people saying its bad to have it in are well, not seeing that theres nothing wrong with nudity. as long as its not "hey look at this nudity!" and super obvious about it, then it can easily be well done and tasteful.

its not like a nipple appearing on screen for a few seconds is going to turn the whole game into trashy smut or anything like that. so why not?

[Xeranx]

ThePwener wrote...

Xeranx wrote...

In what way does nudity add to a scene?  The part in bold doesn't require nudity to show anything.  So what does nudity add to a scene?  People keep stating that something has to have some kind of importance in order for it to be used.  

As a counterpoint, what does gore add to a scene?  Seeing as that's readily acceptable I have to ask because it boggles the mind.  Because anything has a 18+ rating doesn't mean it needs nudity, but it doesn't mean that it can't have it.  Any statement saying that 18+ requires nudity, while literally flawed, is spiritually sound considering the flawed circumstances in which sex and violence are shown and the reasons for it.  Why can I watch a guy's head explode, but a bare breast is a no-no.

I don't see in which side you stand, but I agree if you're pro-nudity. Violence is just one side of the coin, the other being affection. What does affection create? see where Im going. They're part of being human.
 
If it wasn't that they claim nudity to be wrong, then I wouldn't care. They just don't want it. But they do claim it's wrong, yet they do it themselves if they have wifes/girlfriends/genitalia.

I want to prove those people wrong one day. Like I said, Humanity has a lot of growing up to do.

I amended my post and put the change in italics.

I'm on the pro nudity side and I agree with you.  

It's entirely funny and sad that many of the people (I don't know if this applies to anyone here) who say no to nudity in the media have very adventurous sex lives that would cause them shame if any of it were to be found out.  I'm especially baffled by the people who tell others to go watch porn if they're excited by pixels as if the porn they're watching isn't pixellated either.  Unless that porn shoot isn't occurring, live,  in your home you're getting excited by pixels.  It's even worse if many of these same people subscribe to pornographic magazines which are almost all airbrushed anyway.

[Flashflame58]

medcsu wrote...

Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...

medcsu wrote...

Davie McG wrote...

Blitzkrieg0811 wrote...

You mean give Faux News even more ammo against us? Sure, by all means. Let's help Bill O'Reilly look like an uninformed ass, even though he doesn't need the help

Do people actually take Fox News seriously? I mean it's laughable.

I sure do. Their reports about the illegal alien issue are solid. I think people take them about as serious as people take CNN and (barf) MSNBC. All 3 have idiot hosts on some shows and all 3 have solid hosts on some shows.

So what?

Id rather watch Jihad propaganda before watching any "creditable" Fox news show

Good for you. I'm sure most liberals feel this way.

yes, good for you, good sir

[Lord of Mu]

jreezy wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...

"What about the Children?"It's a M rated game,if it was a movie there would be T&A.The little rug-rats should not be playing this game.

I know your probably just joking, but if "kids" get a "hold" of this "game" then it's the parent's/store's fault. Not the industry's. The rating is there, they did they're job.

Fixed that for you.

I agree 100% with the edit. Parents need to be responsible for once.

[Browneye_Vamp84]

Jayman1337 wrote...

As long as I don't see a penis anything goes.

when I played 'Heavy Rain' ... I was hoping that wouldn't happen 

[Blitzkrieg0811]

medcsu wrote...

I sure do. Their reports about the illegal alien issue are fabricated. I think people take them about as serious as people take a piece of dogsh*t serious. Fox has 3 idiot hosts on some shows and hours of billious drivel.

So what?

Fix'd