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[Mike3207]

Just a brief look at the gameplay decisions that import over to DA2 taken over from the wikia:

Gameplay Decisions:

1. Connor lived or died during Arl of Redcliffe. This decision is supposedly recorded in Codex entry: A Study of the Fifth Blight, Vol. Two.*

2. Mages or Templars were recruited during Broken Circle. This decision is recorded in Codex entry: A Study of the Fifth Blight, Vol. One.

3. Dalish or Werewolves were recruited during Nature of the Beast. This decision is recorded in Codex entry: A Study of the Fifth Blight, Vol. One.

4. Bhelen Aeducan or Lord Pyral Harrowmont ascended to the throne of Orzammar during A Paragon of Her Kind. This decision is recorded in Codex entry: A Study of the Fifth Blight, Vol. One.

5. Support Caridin, or support Branka and save the Anvil, or support Branka and destroy Anvil A Paragon of Her Kind. This decision is recorded in Codex entry: A Study of the Fifth Blight, Vol. One.

6. Andraste's Ashes revealed or disappeared during The Urn of Sacred Ashes. Ashes can only be revealed by declining Kolgrim's offer and allowing Brother Genitivi to go back to Denerim. This decision is supposedly recorded in Codex entry: A Study of the Fifth Blight, Vol. Two.*

7. Accept or decline Morrigan's ritual during Morrigan's Ritual. This decision affects #9 and #10. This decision is supposedly recorded in Codex entry: A Study of the Fifth Blight, Vol. Two.*

8. Loghain lives or dies during The Landsmeet. This decisions affects #9 and #10. This decision is supposedly recorded in Codex entry: A Study of the Fifth Blight, Vol. Two.*

9. The Warden/Alistair/Loghain kills the Archdemon during The Landsmeet. This decision affects #10. This decision is recorded in Codex entry: The Hero of Ferelden. This decision may also be recorded in Codex entry: A Study of the Fifth Blight, Vol. Two.*

10. Who ascended Ferelden's throne (the Warden, Anora, Alistair, Anora & the Warden, Anora & Alistair, or the Warden & Alistair). This decision is recorded in Codex entry: The Hero of Ferelden. This decision may also be recorded in Codex entry: A Study of the Fifth Blight, Vol. Two.*

11. If the Warden finds Shale in The Stone Prisoner DLC and she survives Dragon Age: Origins. She can be killed during A Paragon of Her Kind if the Warden sides with Branka.

12. Avernus or Sophia Dryden spared in Warden's Keep DLC

13. What the Warden did with King Cailan's body in Return to Ostagar DLC. Currently unsure what impact this has on Dragon Age II.

14. Amaranthine, or Vigil's Keep, or both are saved in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening

15. The Architect lived or died at the end of Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening. This flag is not imported properly, as whatever choice is made, the dialog in Finding Nathaniel will always indicate that the Architect survived.

16. Nathaniel remained with the Grey Wardens or not during Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening. The only way to ensure Nathaniel remains with the Grey Wardens is to recruit him, ensure his survival, and raise his approval rating over 75.

17. Whether the Warden leaves Morrigan, stabs Morrigan, or follows her into the Eluvian at the end of Witch Hunt DLC. Currently the flag for this decision does not import properly and as a result the codex will always read that the hero remained a Grey Warden.

18. Whether Zevran Arainai lives or dies during Dragon Age: Origins

There were some problems with these imports, but it looks clear that a number of DLC decisions did import over to DA2. They are reflected in side quests, codex entries and cameos. You'll only get these codex entries, side quests, and cameos however if you do the DLC. I spared Avernus, so I never got the Dryden side quest. I'll go out on a limb and say the DLC choices are recognized, but I'm still not willing to say they are canon just yet.

BTW, Bioware will probably ****** off a lot of fans no matter what they do.

Modifié par Mike Smith, 31 août 2011 - 05:21 .

[Thori]

That wouldn't work as well. Unless you guys noticed, whole Dragon Age community is screaming for Warden for months now. Devs can widdle through the grass as much as they want, but fact stays. Fans want Warden, one way or the other. Even DA2 fans admit they would like to see both Hawke and Warden in future installments. 

p.s. this was directed the the previous post.

Modifié par Thori, 31 août 2011 - 05:25 .

[Hayes1987]

The boon at the end of origins has no bearing?

[Thori]

I think it has. Although, not all bons show impact on DA2. I chose to go after Morrigan, so my boon impact was on Awakening. If you free mages, Anders will mention it in DA2. etc...

[phaonica]

Hayes1987 wrote...

The boon at the end of origins has no bearing?

That's a good point. IIRC, there is a line in the game that only triggers for imports with the mage boon, so it must be one of the import flags. So it does seem that something with the list is amiss.

13. What the Warden did with King Cailan's body in Return to Ostagar
DLC. Currently unsure what impact this has on Dragon Age II.

Yeah, not sure why they'd need this. Future darkspawn zombie Cailan?

[boewyr]

15. The Architect lived or died at the end of Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening. This flag is not imported properly, as whatever choice is made, the dialog in Finding Nathaniel will always indicate that the Architect survived.

This import worked fine for me on my first playthrough/import, Nathaniel's line was nearly exactly the same but he said "Since the Warden-Commander killed the Architect" v. "When the Warden-Commander spared the Architect"... or whatever it was, IIRC.

Unless you guys noticed, whole Dragon Age community is screaming for
Warden for months now. Devs can widdle through the grass as much as they
want, but fact stays. Fans want Warden, one way or the other. Even DA2
fans admit they would like to see both Hawke and Warden in future
installments.

This forum is representive of only a small minority of the DA audience. This thread even less so.

Modifié par boewyr, 31 août 2011 - 09:31 .

[Cutlasskiwi]

Thori wrote...

That wouldn't work as well. Unless you guys noticed, whole Dragon Age community is screaming for Warden for months now. Devs can widdle through the grass as much as they want, but fact stays. Fans want Warden, one way or the other. Even DA2 fans admit they would like to see both Hawke and Warden in future installments. 

p.s. this was directed the the previous post.

Not the whole community. Whenever the subject is brought up there are a lot of people who want to see the Warden again but there's also a lot of people who doesn't want to see the Warden.

[dsl08002]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Thori wrote...

That wouldn't work as well. Unless you guys noticed, whole Dragon Age community is screaming for Warden for months now. Devs can widdle through the grass as much as they want, but fact stays. Fans want Warden, one way or the other. Even DA2 fans admit they would like to see both Hawke and Warden in future installments.

Coming soon: Fan Service Age 3

i admit i´m a warden fan ( big suprise considering my constant blabbering) and i understand that bioware wants to continue on different characters but i want a conclusion of the wardens story and it was one of my greatest hope of DA3 thatthe warden would be the protagansit one final time. thenit would be the end of it.

I definently don´t want another story to add on dragon age franchise that has no conclusion, if it does then i will leave DA for good 

Modifié par dsl08002, 31 août 2011 - 10:42 .

[Biotic Budah]

The architect living or dying is obviously of some import now as the events of the Legacy DLC would indicate there is a link. Not wanting to give any spoilers.

[dsl08002]

Yellow Words wrote...

Thori wrote...

That wouldn't work as well. Unless you guys noticed, whole Dragon Age community is screaming for Warden for months now. Devs can widdle through the grass as much as they want, but fact stays. Fans want Warden, one way or the other. Even DA2 fans admit they would like to see both Hawke and Warden in future installments. 

p.s. this was directed the the previous post.

 but there's also a lot of people who doesn't want to see the Warden.

They are FEW

[Yuqi]

Mike Smith wrote...

If it makes you guys feel any better, Bioware can decide at any point to make things canon. You had the choice to kill Leliana in DA1, and at that point it was a choice and not canon. She does make an appearance in DA2 in all playthroughs, so it is now canon that Leliana survives. There's nothing preventing Bioware from making the OGB canon or anything else canon if it wants to.

Of course, the other side is-a lot of people will be unhappy if they make anything that is not currently canon that way. I would be unhappy if they made King Alistair canon instead of a cameo like he currently is. I also wouldn't be happy seeing the OGB, given my canon playthrough i turned down Morrigan and let her run off to Orlais. I don't have any control over what Bioware does though.

Which brings up an intresting possibility if DA3 is in Orlais..IF morrigan did appear maybe she would feel remorse,but probably not.

[Androme]

@ Thori.

Yeah I kinda regretted what I wrote rofl, it was kinda dumb. But my point regarding ignoring the Wardens personality (as long as the Warden is present in DA3!) still stands. But, something very easy to do would be this suggestion of my own that my brilliant mind came up with when trying to sleep last night: To satisfy most people, they could make the Warden have a ''Good'' personality towards neutral/friendly people. A ''Good/Sarcastic'' personality towards people that the Warden is familiar with (Alistair, Morrigan etc..). And a ''Hostile'' personality towards enemies!

__

Also, I really think BW should make the OGB canon (just like they did with Leliana). Considering the OGB is supposedely to have a very important future role to play, and if this is ignored then I really can't see how these games can be called RPG games, considering what defines RPG games is a well-shaped storyline

Modifié par Androme, 31 août 2011 - 12:33 .

[Morroian]

Androme wrote...

Also, I really think BW should make the OGB canon (just like they did with Leliana).

Leliana not being killed is not canon, if you killed her (you bastard) she is brought back to life.

[Thori]

Androme wrote...

@ Thori.

Yeah I kinda regretted what I wrote rofl, it was kinda dumb. But my point regarding ignoring the Wardens personality (as long as the Warden is present in DA3!) still stands. But, something very easy to do would be this suggestion of my own that my brilliant mind came up with when trying to sleep last night: To satisfy most people, they could make the Warden have a ''Good'' personality towards neutral/friendly people. A ''Good/Sarcastic'' personality towards people that the Warden is familiar with (Alistair, Morrigan etc..). And a ''Hostile'' personality towards enemies!

__

Also, I really think BW should make the OGB canon (just like they did with Leliana). Considering the OGB is supposedely to have a very important future role to play, and if this is ignored then I really can't see how these games can be called RPG games, considering what defines RPG games is a well-shaped storyline

Hehehehe! Yeah i got that. A little late though, but no biggy!  I made a topic on general discusion about the MOST important things they should work on in future. Among the things was the Warden problem. I posted several times here and on few other places my idea of using voice presets as base for warden's voice and personality. I'm not some blinded fanatic who wants unrealitic things from BW team. I wanna HELP them make better game, not judge them for destroying DA2. Plus, my solution of Warden problem is prolly the best. I think it' quite doable with just as much money invested as it was in the making of Hawke.

[Thori]

Yuqi wrote...

Mike Smith wrote...

If it makes you guys feel any better, Bioware can decide at any point to make things canon. You had the choice to kill Leliana in DA1, and at that point it was a choice and not canon. She does make an appearance in DA2 in all playthroughs, so it is now canon that Leliana survives. There's nothing preventing Bioware from making the OGB canon or anything else canon if it wants to.

Of course, the other side is-a lot of people will be unhappy if they make anything that is not currently canon that way. I would be unhappy if they made King Alistair canon instead of a cameo like he currently is. I also wouldn't be happy seeing the OGB, given my canon playthrough i turned down Morrigan and let her run off to Orlais. I don't have any control over what Bioware does though.

Which brings up an intresting possibility if DA3 is in Orlais..IF morrigan did appear maybe she would feel remorse,but probably not.

have any of you read my story on general discusion's topic Dragon Age 3 takes place in whole of Thedas. i'm kinda proud on my brain there. I wrote that story in 5 mins. Straight from head. It fell on my mind when Gaider mentioned somewhere ( i dunno where exactly) that DA3 protagonist will have to have strong reason to travel great distances like Orlais and Tevinter ( those are the countries DA3 will take place in). 

[Androme]

Modifié par Androme, 16 septembre 2011 - 10:12 .

[Mike3207]

Androme wrote...

@ Thori.

Yeah I kinda regretted what I wrote rofl, it was kinda dumb. But my point regarding ignoring the Wardens personality (as long as the Warden is present in DA3!) still stands. But, something very easy to do would be this suggestion of my own that my brilliant mind came up with when trying to sleep last night: To satisfy most people, they could make the Warden have a ''Good'' personality towards neutral/friendly people. A ''Good/Sarcastic'' personality towards people that the Warden is familiar with (Alistair, Morrigan etc..). And a ''Hostile'' personality towards enemies!

__

Also, I really think BW should make the OGB canon (just like they did with Leliana). Considering the OGB is supposedely to have a very important future role to play, and if this is ignored then I really can't see how these games can be called RPG games, considering what defines RPG games is a well-shaped storyline

They have to be really careful on making things canon that aren't already canon. It always upsets a large number of people when you disregard the choices they make. In the case of Leliana, the people who killed Leliana were upset when she appeared in DA2. In the case of OGB, none of the female characters did the ritual. There's also a great number of people who turned down Morrigan doing the ritual. It's definitely going to be a hard issue to address.

BTW, a Warden cameo would be more than I expect. I'd even be Ok with NPC discussion of why the Warden disappeared and why he's returned. I just want the storyline resolved, one way or another.

Modifié par Mike Smith, 31 août 2011 - 05:09 .

[Androme]

Modifié par Androme, 16 septembre 2011 - 10:12 .

[danteliveson]

Not a fan of a new protagionist but at least Hawke's story is not over.

Modifié par danteliveson, 31 août 2011 - 08:27 .

[Leoroc]

Hawke's story isn't over because there is more DLC to come. When DA3 comes out we won't be playing Hawke anymore.

As regards the Warden, I think he had a conclusion. I don't need to follow his life up till he's old and grey. If you don't think his story had a conclusion, well he can get in line behind Revan =p

[AenarionX]

Leoroc wrote...

Hawke's story isn't over because there is more DLC to come. When DA3 comes out we won't be playing Hawke anymore.

As regards the Warden, I think he had a conclusion. I don't need to follow his life up till he's old and grey. If you don't think his story had a conclusion, well he can get in line behind Revan =p

Well it took them 8  years, but Revan is finally  getting his conclusion.

[Sidney]

AenarionX wrote...

Leoroc wrote...

Hawke's story isn't over because there is more DLC to come. When DA3 comes out we won't be playing Hawke anymore.

As regards the Warden, I think he had a conclusion. I don't need to follow his life up till he's old and grey. If you don't think his story had a conclusion, well he can get in line behind Revan =p

Well it took them 8  years, but Revan is finally  getting his conclusion.

That is soooo unsatisfying to see.  Revan, far more than the Warden, deserved a conclusion to his story because it clearly wasn't over.