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[dujh]

jojon2se wrote...

TOR doesn't techically NEED Origin -- it's an MMO and as such always online and bound to a personal account anyway.

EDIT: Shouldn't need clarification, but anyway: the same does, of course, not apply to Mass Effect.

i know it doesnt meen anything for me3, i just meant that i hope that because they're both bioware then they do the same for me3, i hope

[Deathwurm]

dujh wrote...

jojon2se wrote...

TOR doesn't techically NEED Origin -- it's an MMO and as such always online and bound to a personal account anyway.

EDIT: Shouldn't need clarification, but anyway: the same does, of course, not apply to Mass Effect.

i know it doesnt meen anything for me3, i just meant that i hope that because they're both bioware then they do the same for me3, i hope

I have a feeling that this is a decision that is out of Bioware's hands...this is EA's EULA and not something (I hope) that Bioware wants to do, but I do hold out the same hope because I really and I mean REALLY want to play ME3...I've been looking forward to the Conclusion of the Story since I was half way through my 1st ME playthrough.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

I really hope Origin won't be required. As we all know, EA can gather information about you from your computer through Origin and can sell those info to everyone they want.

[JoHnDoE14]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

I really hope Origin won't be required. As we all know, EA can gather information about you from your computer through Origin and can sell those info to everyone they want.

+10
I also hate installing more than a game, to only play the game. I din't buy New Vegas just because steam would be froced on me.

[ETermin]

piracy is like supply and demand charts. the more demand being the DRM and supply being the people upset and going to cracking/piracy. bad DRM (ubisoft DRM for example) more people crack it. good DRM (Dragon Age 2) less people cracking it.

all aside I will be buying Mass Effect 3 and cracking it upon release even if I have to build a .exe myself to get around origin.
(not promoting piracy. just extreme dislike of origin.)

[Deathwurm]

I feel obligated to warn people that talk of how they're going to be Pirating or craking things is putting yourself at risk of a Timed or Permanent Ban...

In this case, I'll admit to a certain amount of Paranoia, but I'm only a bit paranoid about this because someone on my Friends list who was one of the single greatest resources for Technical help on the Mass Effect Technical Help Forums was perma-banned without even an explaination this morning. This was someone who was actually making life easier for not only posters with questions and moderators, but Bioware and EA themselves and that seemed to make no difference.

Modifié par Deathwurm, 26 août 2011 - 10:44 .

[Nathander Von Eric]

I hope anyone that pirates a game is caught and prosecuted. I don't care who published the game or what the pirates reason is. I can't stand thieves.

If Origin becomes a requirement for single player games I can see a whole lot of people perma banning themselves over it after doing a whole lot of screaming on the boards though.

I'll be one of them. I love Bioware games. But they aren't now and never will be worth allowing something this intrusive into my personal life.

I'll never understand why some people will so willingly give away rights that others have fought so hard to win and defend.

Modifié par Nathander Von Eric, 26 août 2011 - 12:16 .

[The_11thDoctor]

I was planning to get ME3 for PC, but not after reading the document... It's too open ended and scares the crap out me as an American... No privacy or freedom is basically what Im gathering. Some people don't seem to understand English well enough to get the implications this document is implying. I can't get ME3 on PC if this is still in place when it comes out. I guess I'll go PS3. Shame it'll look so much better on PC...and be cheaper...but cost my privacy and freedom... Why must ALL paying costumers suffer due to companies being scared of piracy? They don't stop it, but cause it, force it and enforce it's longevity as long as they punish the paying... Why are companies legally allowed to preform illegal actions as long as they can trick/force you into agreeing to something? They make sure to make user agreements so long that no sane person would want to read them fully and if you disagree with any part of it, you can either take it in the backside screaming or not use the product at all? Gaming is putting me in despair...
Just like the Used gaming nonsense... It was bought and paid for, but since your game isnt good enough to keep and someone else want to buy it, if they don't think it's worth full price and want to get it off someone, they must pay twice to be able to access the full disk of what they own? We are renting our products now at full price? Imagine buying a CD used, but only getting to hear songs 1-9 on a disk and 10-13 must be repurchased to access them or a used car must be repurchased to access the 4th wheel after you bought it?

Whats happening to gaming?! Why hasn't someone at Bioware said anything yet about Origin?!

[Guldhun2]

aang001 wrote...

Whats happening to gaming?! Why hasn't someone at Bioware said anything yet about Origin?!

There's not much they can say, if overlord EA decides every Bioware game from now on will use the Origin system then it will.

[Deathwurm]

Guldhun2 wrote...

aang001 wrote...

Whats happening to gaming?! Why hasn't someone at Bioware said anything yet about Origin?!

There's not much they can say, if overlord EA decides every Bioware game from now on will use the Origin system then it will.

I'm certain this is the case. In the current economy, I really don't want anyone to risk their jobs making a stand against a behemoth of a Parent company...only The Doctors themselves might be able to get away with it.

To be honest, I do imagine that those at Bioware are a bit worried. I'm sure there is a threshold of profitablilty that if they fall below will cause EA to simply close them up. This is an EA decision and policy and not anything Bioware can control, but it is going to effect the sales numbers for Bioware games if the EULA remains as written and EA certainly won't take the time or responsibility to see that it was their Policies that caused that drop in sales. 

[Nathander Von Eric]

I'm certainly not asking Bioware to "take a stand" against EA. That would be silly since they are both part of the same company now.

It not EA on side and Bioware on the other. It's EA and Bioware being right there in the same place.

All I am asking is: Will Origin be required to play ME3?

A simple yes or no would suffice.

[Deathwurm]

Nathander Von Eric wrote...

I'm certainly not asking Bioware to "take a stand" against EA. That would be silly since they are both part of the same company now.

It not EA on side and Bioware on the other. It's EA and Bioware being right there in the same place.

All I am asking is: Will Origin be required to play ME3?

A simple yes or no would suffice.

That is a reasonable request and something I want an answer to as well.

But, given what happened as far as a complete lack of communication when the DA:O authentication servers went down for over 96 hours ealier this Year I am not holding my breath for any Statement of any kind.

[FERMi27]

Well I was reading all this crap you guys posted here and a new theory was born in my head. What if EA doesn't know itself if Origin will be required for ME3? I mean, what they're doing with BF3 looks like a sacrifice for the sake of an experiment to me. I think they wanna see how people will react to the mandatory attached Origin to the game. And based on that feedback or it's lack at all(if many people will decide that the heavy risk is not worth the prize - which would be the best case scenario for us, who prefer offline gaming or don't want to install Origin for any other reason), they'll decide what to do with their future games, including ME3.

[Nathander Von Eric]

That would be an answer at least if we got a reply.

Yes/No/We don't know yet is better than no answer at all.

I'm just going under the assumption that they have just been too busy working to get around to us yet but that very well could be the reason we haven't gotten a reply.

[netleopard54]

I just created a twitter account (laugh if you must ) and i asked casey hudson whether EA Origin will be required to play ME3. Maybe I will get a response, maybe I will not, but the question is now out there too thousands of his twitter followers.

just my 2 cents!

[netleopard54]

looks like my question may have been pre-mature. A person posted this link and translation in another thread.

www.gamestar.de/spiele/battlefield-3/news/origin,45612,2560473.html

"the upcoming Battlefield 3 or Mass Effect 3 will play on the PC. Both titles require an online account with Origin service."

Sorry if the translation is a little rusty

this article seems to have the stance that ME3 will use Origin and its service. I used google to translate some of it, but not all. again don't know how accurate or reliable this source is.

Cheers!

[Feanor_II]

FERMi27 wrote...

Well I was reading all this crap you guys posted here and a new theory was born in my head. What if EA doesn't know itself if Origin will be required for ME3? I mean, what they're doing with BF3 looks like a sacrifice for the sake of an experiment to me. I think they wanna see how people will react to the mandatory attached Origin to the game. And based on that feedback or it's lack at all(if many people will decide that the heavy risk is not worth the prize - which would be the best case scenario for us, who prefer offline gaming or don't want to install Origin for any other reason), they'll decide what to do with their future games, including ME3.

No.

Battlefield 3 is one of EA's heavy weights for this season, they won't risk it with experiments. IMO what happens is that EA knows that BF3 is a highly anticipated game and they plan to use it as a battering ram to impose Origin

[cocla]

Looks like EA is starting to back-peddle, they have already taken out that bit about tracking all of your internet browsing activity. They still have the bit about monitoring you program use though.

Come on internet! Keep the pressure on EA so those evil BLEEPS in corporate learn there is a limit to how much you can jerk your customers around!

[FERMi27]

Feanor_II wrote...

FERMi27 wrote...

Well I was reading all this crap you guys posted here and a new theory was born in my head. What if EA doesn't know itself if Origin will be required for ME3? I mean, what they're doing with BF3 looks like a sacrifice for the sake of an experiment to me. I think they wanna see how people will react to the mandatory attached Origin to the game. And based on that feedback or it's lack at all(if many people will decide that the heavy risk is not worth the prize - which would be the best case scenario for us, who prefer offline gaming or don't want to install Origin for any other reason), they'll decide what to do with their future games, including ME3.

No.

Battlefield 3 is one of EA's heavy weights for this season, they won't risk it with experiments. IMO what happens is that EA knows that BF3 is a highly anticipated game and they plan to use it as a battering ram to impose Origin

Agree, but if BF3 won't surpass the number of sales of BC2 in the same period of time, the idea with Origin can be considered a failure anyways.

[Deathwurm]

cocla wrote...

Looks like EA is starting to back-peddle, they have already taken out that bit about tracking all of your internet browsing activity. They still have the bit about monitoring you program use though.

Come on internet! Keep the pressure on EA so those evil BLEEPS in corporate learn there is a limit to how much you can jerk your customers around!

Do you have a Link or a source on that?

It's not that I don't believe you, but I am following this entire thing very closely and would be interested to read the entire thing.

Thanks!

[Robert-42]

I use Windows just to play games. After playing, I reboot my PC and use Linux and no Origin software running anymore...

Modifié par Robert-42, 26 août 2011 - 04:16 .

[KenKenpachi]

On the PC depends. Just pay 10 dollars more and get the physical copy, then you won't have to DL crap

[Guldhun2]

KenKenpachi wrote...

On the PC depends. Just pay 10 dollars more and get the physical copy, then you won't have to DL crap

You still need to install and use Origin. Same as Steam.

[cocla]

Deathwurm wrote...

cocla wrote...

Looks like EA is starting to back-peddle, they have already taken out that bit about tracking all of your internet browsing activity. They still have the bit about monitoring you program use though.

Come on internet! Keep the pressure on EA so those evil BLEEPS in corporate learn there is a limit to how much you can jerk your customers around!

Do you have a Link or a source on that?

It's not that I don't believe you, but I am following this entire thing very closely and would be interested to read the entire thing.

Thanks!

http://www.ea.com/1/product-eulas

I had a read of the Origin EULA again and they changed it a bit.  Like I said, the total internet tracking is out, now its just tracking the use of THEIR website/services.

Hoping the software use tracking will be out soon to!