^^ Not only UK. EU and German too - and the EA lawyers should know it. That's the reason I don't understand the hole thing. It seems to me they just testing how far they can go with it.
So, who is that mighty and can protect the users? I don't think the EULA and collecting mania can be stopped by some user e-mails even if it's violate the law. It must be done by official instances.
Will Origin be required to play ME3, now that Multiplayer has been confirmed?
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#327
Posté 27 août 2011 - 02:03
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Nathander Von Eric wrote...
Mrkew wrote...
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Thank God I'll be playing this on the 360.
^This. EA can suck it.
Buying the game for the 360 still supports EA. They get your money just the same and I doubt that they give a flying fig if you buy it for a consol, a retail PC game or as a digital download. They just want you to buy it.
Of course it's your choice and you can do anything you wish I just thought that I would point that out.
Taking my money =/= Scanning personal information on my PC.
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 02:11
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*Shrugs*
It's been a couple of days now and still no reply from Bioware.
Is no one minding the store?
It's been a couple of days now and still no reply from Bioware.
Is no one minding the store?
#329
Posté 27 août 2011 - 02:17
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Nathander Von Eric wrote...
*Shrugs*
It's been a couple of days now and still no reply from Bioware.
Is no one minding the store?
Wouldn't honestly expect that. Bioware is a sub-division and is not setting this policy. They make games, EA makes enemies.
#330
Posté 27 août 2011 - 09:59
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justgimmedudedammit wrote...
Nathander Von Eric wrote...
*Shrugs*
It's been a couple of days now and still no reply from Bioware.
Is no one minding the store?
Wouldn't honestly expect that. Bioware is a sub-division and is not setting this policy. They make games, EA makes enemies.
I have to agree...I would not expect an answer anytime soon. Not just for the reason justgimmedudedammit mentioned but for the fact that I think this whole thing is still in a state of flux and they may not even know themselves yet.
I think this may have been mentioned somewhere else, but this situation is a mess, so I'll ask again: Do we now need Origin to purchase DLC with Bioware points? I actually have put off buying Arrival until ME3's release date was closer, but if I need Origin to purchase DLC I won't be buying that either.
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:12
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Did anyone of you get a 24 hour ban from BSN when you guys suggested this crap from EA actually encourages piracy?
I got banned for it without a warning. Of course I fully understand that the promotion of piracy on BSN can not and will not be tolerated, but come on, lets be reasonable here, EA is asking for it with this stupid crap in their Origin's EULA. Besides, I did not encourage piracy, I only said that if EA keeps this up, they are encouraging piracy.
That said, I always buy my games, especially games from BioWare. I wouldn't want to screw BioWare, especially because I'm a game-design student myself. I wouldn't want to screw with my colleagues. That's why I will buy ME3 for my Xbox 360.
But in the future, I will think twice before I buy an EA game for my PC.
PS: Please don't ban me again dear mods! :'(
I got banned for it without a warning. Of course I fully understand that the promotion of piracy on BSN can not and will not be tolerated, but come on, lets be reasonable here, EA is asking for it with this stupid crap in their Origin's EULA. Besides, I did not encourage piracy, I only said that if EA keeps this up, they are encouraging piracy.
That said, I always buy my games, especially games from BioWare. I wouldn't want to screw BioWare, especially because I'm a game-design student myself. I wouldn't want to screw with my colleagues. That's why I will buy ME3 for my Xbox 360.
But in the future, I will think twice before I buy an EA game for my PC.
PS: Please don't ban me again dear mods! :'(
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:34
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If all this is true, then will EA get a lot of trouble in European countries, from the Data lnspectorate.
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:39
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Inge Shepard wrote...
If all this is true, then will EA get a lot of trouble in European countries, from the Data lnspectorate.
Which makes me fear that Mass Effect will not be released on the PC in the EU at all.
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:42
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If they can't let you have your private information about you life alone.
Then "get the h.. out of Europe.."
Then "get the h.. out of Europe.."
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:42
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Luc0s wrote...
Did anyone of you get a 24 hour ban from BSN when you guys suggested this crap from EA actually encourages piracy?
I got banned for it without a warning. Of course I fully understand that the promotion of piracy on BSN can not and will not be tolerated, but come on, lets be reasonable here, EA is asking for it with this stupid crap in their Origin's EULA. Besides, I did not encourage piracy, I only said that if EA keeps this up, they are encouraging piracy.
That said, I always buy my games, especially games from BioWare. I wouldn't want to screw BioWare, especially because I'm a game-design student myself. I wouldn't want to screw with my colleagues. That's why I will buy ME3 for my Xbox 360.
But in the future, I will think twice before I buy an EA game for my PC.
PS: Please don't ban me again dear mods! :'(
That is completely unfair if it occured as you described. (I'm not calling your honesty into question, I believe what you've written. I just always have to leave a small window of doubt open)
I have not recieved a Ban yet...I hope that the Mods understand our concerns and our Right to express them if they are expressed in a polite manner.
I have, however been expecting a Ban Hammer to drop on me since I've been so vocal on this. I hope it won't.
#336
Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:47
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That is very unpleasant. I'll still be getting my PC copy of ME3 - However, beyond that, if this trend continues with irritating levels of DRM(I'm looking at you too, blizzard), I may have to avoid their products altogether. I'm not even sure about getting the next part of Starcraft 2, due to their crazy patch-a-thons. I have a notably slow connection, so it makes life complicated on the PC.
I just want to play my game. Monitoring to a certain extent is one thing, but this is... well, it's a bit much.
I just want to play my game. Monitoring to a certain extent is one thing, but this is... well, it's a bit much.
#337
Posté 27 août 2011 - 10:52
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EA is a big company. So they have loot of customers. They probably want to test us. If few buy it then they will try to move even further with this.
Solution is simple. DON'T buy games that require Origin. Sales will drop and then they will change EULA or they will not make Origin required for their games.
Also make as much noise as you can about the whole thing so people hear about it. There is nothing better than black PR. Companies start to think then.
I'm glad that websites take it seriously and they are not afraid to talk about it. Here is one of the many articles (one of the biggest gaming site in Poland). It's on a frond page (Polish language)
http://www.gry-onlin...13.asp?ID=61615
Article is named "Are you using Origin client ? You are under full surveillance"
Solution is simple. DON'T buy games that require Origin. Sales will drop and then they will change EULA or they will not make Origin required for their games.
Also make as much noise as you can about the whole thing so people hear about it. There is nothing better than black PR. Companies start to think then.
I'm glad that websites take it seriously and they are not afraid to talk about it. Here is one of the many articles (one of the biggest gaming site in Poland). It's on a frond page (Polish language)
http://www.gry-onlin...13.asp?ID=61615
Article is named "Are you using Origin client ? You are under full surveillance"
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:00
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Is this article some how available in English? Because I'm going to report this company to the Data lnspectorate.
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:20
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Inge Shepard wrote...
Is this article some how available in English? Because I'm going to report this company to the Data lnspectorate.
Actually, what EA is doing is ok by (eu)law. Because they are informing you they are going to breach your privacy.
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:24
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Inge Shepard wrote...
Is this article some how available in English? Because I'm going to report this company to the Data lnspectorate.
You should make a new thread about his, questioning the legality of Origin's (EA's) actions.
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:24
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Why am I not surprised? I do hope this blows up in thier face.
As someone before me said, these kind of fascist meassures only encourage more people to turn to piracy. I know for certain, that a lot of people have turned to piracy because of DRM's. And this is even worse. A spyware on your computer, required to play EA games. I wonder how gamers will react to that (rhetorical).
Btw, just google EA Origin spyware. There are a lot of articles out there already and I hope this reaches as many people as possible. We need to say NO to this kind of fascist BS.
As someone before me said, these kind of fascist meassures only encourage more people to turn to piracy. I know for certain, that a lot of people have turned to piracy because of DRM's. And this is even worse. A spyware on your computer, required to play EA games. I wonder how gamers will react to that (rhetorical).
Btw, just google EA Origin spyware. There are a lot of articles out there already and I hope this reaches as many people as possible. We need to say NO to this kind of fascist BS.
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:26
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Fixers0 wrote...
Inge Shepard wrote...
Is this article some how available in English? Because I'm going to report this company to the Data lnspectorate.
You should make a new thread about his, questioning the legality of Origin's (EA's) actions.
It is legal in the EU, they are informing you in the EULA that they will breach your privacy and sell that info to a third party. As long as they tell you that, it is legal.
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:29
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:43
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If they are looking for porn site, let them. Hope they inform me if they find anything.
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:46
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You don't tell.Guldhun2 wrote...
Fixers0 wrote...
Inge Shepard wrote...
Is this article some how available in English? Because I'm going to report this company to the Data lnspectorate.
You should make a new thread about his, questioning the legality of Origin's (EA's) actions.
It is legal in the EU, they are informing you in the EULA that they will breach your privacy and sell that info to a third party. As long as they tell you that, it is legal.
Well that is the end of buying game from EA.
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 11:57
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Why, can't see that BW has given any answer about this.Fixers0 wrote...
Inge Shepard wrote...
Is this article some how available in English? Because I'm going to report this company to the Data lnspectorate.
You should make a new thread about his, questioning the legality of Origin's (EA's) actions.
I will not buy any more games from EA and as long Origin is a part of this not even ME3.
#347
Posté 27 août 2011 - 12:08
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jreezy wrote...
:huh:This honestly makes no sense.Rockworm503 wrote...
LOL I love how some people say "its fighting piracy"... by violating the privacy of people who legitimately bought the game.
Indeed.
Citizen: "Officer why are you shooting all those innocent children in the playground?!"
Officer: "Well, if they're dead, they can't commit crimes... right?"
Citizen: ........
#348
Posté 27 août 2011 - 12:42
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Hathur wrote...
jreezy wrote...
:huh:This honestly makes no sense.Rockworm503 wrote...
LOL I love how some people say "its fighting piracy"... by violating the privacy of people who legitimately bought the game.
Indeed.: "Officer why are you shooting all those innocent children in the playground?!"
: "Well, if they're dead, they can't commit crimes... right?"
: ........
Hahahahahahaha! That made my day :-D Best comment here ever
#349
Posté 27 août 2011 - 01:01
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Guldhun2 wrote...
Fixers0 wrote...
Inge Shepard wrote...
Is this article some how available in English? Because I'm going to report this company to the Data lnspectorate.
You should make a new thread about his, questioning the legality of Origin's (EA's) actions.
It is legal in the EU, they are informing you in the EULA that they will breach your privacy and sell that info to a third party. As long as they tell you that, it is legal.
I dont think thats the case otherwise you could get away with anything by making people sign a waiver/accept a EULA
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Posté 27 août 2011 - 01:04
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EternalPink wrote...
Guldhun2 wrote...
Fixers0 wrote...
Inge Shepard wrote...
Is this article some how available in English? Because I'm going to report this company to the Data lnspectorate.
You should make a new thread about his, questioning the legality of Origin's (EA's) actions.
It is legal in the EU, they are informing you in the EULA that they will breach your privacy and sell that info to a third party. As long as they tell you that, it is legal.
I dont think thats the case otherwise you could get away with anything by making people sign a waiver/accept a EULA
http://europa.eu/rap...rence=IP/09/571
The EU Directive on privacy and electronic communications requires EU Member
States to ensure confidentiality of the communications by prohibiting unlawful
interception and surveillance unless the users concerned have given their
consent. The EU Data Protection Directive specifies that a person must
freely give specific consent and be informed before their personal information
is processed.
Clicking YES or AGREE when it asks if you agree with the EULA is giving your consent.
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