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[shep82]

This sucks. But it was innevitable I guess. I know what Origin is "supposed" to do but that won't make me not get ME3.

Modifié par shep82, 11 octobre 2011 - 12:55 .

[Kusy]

I have Origins installed right now. It gave me powers. I can infect your computers with spyware, malware, bioware, hardware and viruses just by thinking about it.

[Almostfaceman]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

I have Origins installed right now. It gave me powers. I can infect your computers with spyware, malware, bioware, hardware and viruses just by thinking about it.

Wait, I thought my Origins was doing that to your computer. This whole taking over the world business is complicated I tell ya.

[Silver]

The EULA of every game that is being sold in Germany are useless any way you look at it, since you have to be made aware of them before you buy the game.
So even If you accept them after installing the game, you can still sue the publisher for certain passages in them.

[20thCenturyGhost]

Will Origin be required to play ME3? Two of several possible answers come immediately to mind:

1. Bioware will deny that it is required, but will again be lying through their teeth, as they did with multiplayer.

2. Bioware will admit it is required, but only if you want to use the multiplayer feature, and again they will be lying to you.

The real answer is, that yes, Origin is required. There will be no opting out of EA's Spyware/DRM.

If you don't like it then you will be called "butthurt' and whatever other new colorful epithets that the Biobot sewing circle has decided is the appropriate slur of the day for anyone who actually thinks that a company can make money without being deceptive and unethical to it's customers.

The Biobots will insist such a thing is impossible and dismiss your concerns as deriving from a wide variety of character deficiencies.

I'd really like to see how the ME story ends, but between Bioware's greed, and their embarrassingly foolish and infantile fan base, I'm rapidly losing interest.

[SkittlesKat96]

I think they removed the thing in their terms and condition where they said they could monitor all your programs and your activity and give it to third parties and hold onto it and etc.

I'd rather use STEAM though to be honest.

[Forok]

I am kind of interested to hear more about this co-op feature, seeing as its separate from the single player and you're allowed to beat the game just fine without any watering down of the game with SP. The ability to play the different races and influence the story with these different battles seems interesting.

[IliyaMoroumetz]

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

I think they removed the thing in their terms and condition where they said they could monitor all your programs and your activity and give it to third parties and hold onto it and etc.

I'd rather use STEAM though to be honest.

Better find the quote before saying those kinda things. 

I'd also they take out the nonsense that says you have to buy the license again.  Granted, it's after two years of inactivity, but it's still a bunch of hoo-hah.

[Bogsnot1]

Question added to Co-op FAQ
http://social.biowar...3/index/8484668 
 

[Computer_God91]

staindgrey wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

Holy ****ing ****.

I swear to God, I'm going back to consoles at this rate.

Just imagine how many more people are like you and don't know about this. It's up to us to tell as many people as possible. That's why it's in my sig here. I'm trying to spend the word as much as possible and so should everyone here.

I understand. I'm usually campaigning against disc-locked "DLC", which people blindly purchase without realizing they're falling for a pretty unethical scheme.

I still haven't actually installed Origin, but most people who hate it aren't very articulate with their thoughts. They just say "I hate Origin", with optional ****'s spliced in, and sound about as intelligent as people who say "I hate ______" for anything and everything else.

Well at least we have a legit reason. Not sure I understand your meaning of disc locked DLC.

Items being sold as downloadable content already being fully playable on your disc, but inaccessable unless you pay extra. It's fairly common practice now.

Almost the entirety of Gears 3's first DLC pack is already on my disc and usable if I use a hack to bypass the limitations, but I need to pay $10 to access it. Stuff like that.

Oh yea stuff like that I can bullsh!t and anyone I see buying those weapon skins I call retarded.

[Computer_God91]

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

I think they removed the thing in their terms and condition where they said they could monitor all your programs and your activity and give it to third parties and hold onto it and etc.

I'd rather use STEAM though to be honest.

This was brought up, all they really did was re-word it so it didn't sound so sinister.

IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

I'd also they take out the nonsense that says you have to buy the license again.  Granted, it's after two years of inactivity, but it's still a bunch of hoo-hah.

That is also the biggest load of crap. Once I BUY a game it's mine, don't take it away from me just cause I drop it for two years or I'll just pirate it.

[Robhuzz]

IsaacShep wrote...

charmingcharlie wrote...

This is an EA response about whether Mass Effect 3 will require Origins.  It was posted on the steam forums so I am just passing the info on :-

EA wrote ........  "Thank you for contacting Electronic Arts Customer Support.

I am sorry to inform you that my colleague's information was inaccurate for your specific query.

Mass Effect 3 will require Origin to run in the background for the verification of your purchase and tracking of in-game achievements. Updates and patches will be applied automatically through Origin. Origin is currently in a beta state. Our development team is working around the clock to improve the application's performance and we have full confidence that Origin will both enhance and enrich your gaming  experience upon the launch of Mass Effect 3.

Please contact us again if you have any further questions."

http://forums.steamp...60&postcount=73

If this is the case and EA already KNOW that ME 3 will require Origin then why haven't Bioware come out and told us ........ oh wait I forgot they have a habit of deceiving their fanbase.  As much as I love the ME franchise (despite the idiocy of MP) in my books Origin is a deal breaker, I can ignore multiplayer but I can't ignore a piece of spyware like Origin on my PC.

If true, worst news ever for ME3.

Ahh man! First it's multiplayer, now THIS crap? All my worst fears for ME3 have been realized.... I hope by the time ME3 launches in Europe there's some offline installers available but that would probably mean I'm not getting my collector's edition ingame items. Way to go EA:devil:

[lltoon]

Don't quote me on this, but I also heard that if you don't play an Origin game for 2 years, you'll have to re-purchase the license to play it again if you decide to come back. Which basically means you are paying for a game you already own.

I don't know. I can deal with multilayer and I can deal with less than perfect storylines or unpotimized engines, but this Origin program is a dealbreaker for me. There's only so much abuse I can take as a gamer and as a person on my wallet and my privacy in order to get a couple of hours of game fun.

ME3 just isn't worth it for me to punch myself in the stomach with Origin. I'll be a happy part of the community, but I can't be a part of Origin.

[Bogsnot1]

lltoon wrote...

Don't quote me on this, but I also heard that if you don't play an Origin game for 2 years, you'll have to re-purchase the license to play it again if you decide to come back. Which basically means you are paying for a game you already own.

I don't know. I can deal with multilayer and I can deal with less than perfect storylines or unpotimized engines, but this Origin program is a dealbreaker for me. There's only so much abuse I can take as a gamer and as a person on my wallet and my privacy in order to get a couple of hours of game fun.

ME3 just isn't worth it for me to punch myself in the stomach with Origin. I'll be a happy part of the community, but I can't be a part of Origin.

Thats why you shouldnt believe everything you hear, and read the T&C's for yourself. EA have already clarified and dismissed that rumour, that clause is in there for people/bots who sign up, and then provide no activity on that account. Purchase something, and not use the account for 2 years, that account is still valid, as is your purchase.
If you dont want Origin, buy it hard copy, or on a console. Get it as a PC digital download, and you will have to contend with it.

[Ieldra]

Bogsnot1 wrote...
If you dont want Origin, buy it hard copy, or on a console. Get it as a PC digital download, and you will have to contend with it.

The question is, will the hard copy require Origin?

[lltoon]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

If you dont want Origin, buy it hard copy, or on a console. Get it as a PC digital download, and you will have to contend with it.

If hard copies don't come with Origin, then I'm actually quite happy to get ME3.

Modifié par lltoon, 11 octobre 2011 - 08:24 .

[Robhuzz]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...
If you dont want Origin, buy it hard copy, or on a console. Get it as a PC digital download, and you will have to contend with it.

The question is, will the hard copy require Origin?

Hard copy BF3 requires Origin to install and play. I pray it's different for ME3. Origin is a real game killer for me, unless someone comes up with a good way to avoid Origin's sneaky computer scanning business. Since priestly said PC version of ME3 uses windows live for multiplayer, I guess that's good news. There's no reason to make Origin mandatory to play the game now... Then again, when does EA listen to reason. They only know 1 word and that's 'money'

Modifié par Robhuzz, 11 octobre 2011 - 08:27 .

[Bogsnot1]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...
If you dont want Origin, buy it hard copy, or on a console. Get it as a PC digital download, and you will have to contend with it.

The question is, will the hard copy require Origin?

I seem to recall a post that said it didn't. If it does, then you can (violate bioware forum rule #7) it. 

[elitecom]

If a retail copy of TOR doesn't need Origin, why should a retail copy of ME3 need one? Considering how TOR is much more online dependent. That makes no sense what so ever.

[HunterRevan]

EA wants money. ME3 unless primarily subscription online is less money in thier pockets. And thus, try to find a way to make more via Origin.

[lltoon]

elitecom wrote...

If a retail copy of TOR doesn't need Origin, why should a retail copy of ME3 need one? Considering how TOR is much more online dependent. That makes no sense what so ever.

TOR is an MMO which requires you to connect to a server whenever you need to play because it is a pure multiplayer game. External clients for MMO type games are kinda redundant, because you can't really pirate those types of games to begin with.

ME3 principally is a singleplayer game, and should only need to connect to a server to make use of multiplayer features (because you need a server to host the games). Other than that, DRMs or Origin should not be needed to play the singleplayer portion of the game and it certainly shouldn't force you to install it if you have no intention of playing multiplayer.

Even if that were the case, the scanning of contents on your PC is sorta overboard as there is no opt out feature that was at least present in Steam.

[Abraham_uk]

The only Origin I want is Shepard's origins!!!!! Spacer, Earthbound, Colonist, Ruthless, War Hero and Sole Survivor!!!

[JoshieoPandar]

There's no denying it, any future EA games purchased on the PC regardless of it being digital, or retail will require Origin, they've stated this. So no doubt ME3 will require Origin, I hate this as much as anyone else does, I've only recently discovered EA's retarded EULA for forcing you to have their own spyware monitor your activities on the PC 24/7. It's irritating me a lot, since I've got ME3 and BF3 already on preorder on the PC, and I was also looking forward to swtor. I only assumed Origin was gonna be like steam, I know steam collects data anyways, but you have the option to opt-out. I think a lot of us like our privacy.

Seriously though, they get this much hype and excitement from fans on three upcoming AAA titles, and then they derail themselves with this. It's a huge ass facepalm. Until they turn this around, it will only encourage more piracy instead of trying to counter it. It does not include rewording it either, which they already did.

[Robhuzz]

HunterRevan wrote...

EA wants money. ME3 unless primarily subscription online is less money in thier pockets. And thus, try to find a way to make more via Origin.

I have to ask: How does forcing that piece of spyware called Origin on it's customers, equate to EA making more money?

All it does is drive more people to piracy, or cause people to refrain from buying their products alltogether: look at Ubisoft's 'always online' policy. Guess what it achieved: A massive 90% reduction in PC sales with no corrosponding increase in console sales. This article covers it all. If this is the future of games, developers are in for incredibly hard times.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 11 octobre 2011 - 09:31 .

[NPH11]

SkittlesKat96 wrote...
I'd rather use STEAM though to be honest.

In all honesty, Steam isn't much better than Origin. The difference is that I actually trust Valve and thus far the benefits of Steam have outweighed the detriments.
 
All this being said, let's just wait and see how this plays out. I'm not gonna give much thought into what some guy off Steam got when he wrote into EA Support. Bioware said that they were working on a FAQ to elaborate on the Origin Question, so let's wait for that and go from there.