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[Thompson family]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...


This may be Sidonis repaying his debt.

Whoa, that one made me do a double take, but upon openning up the image and zooming in, there is a definite pattern of paint on the spikes going back that I don't think matches Sidonus. I need a good side-by-side to be sure, though.

Modifié par Thompson family, 26 août 2011 - 11:57 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Well,graphics are a bit better as well,maybe they changed him,or maybe it isn't him at all.

[shiftylookingspacecow]

Maybe Cerberus split?

[Thompson family]

Where are they in that picture, and what schematic are they looking at, whoever the Turian is?

[Chewin]

Thompson family wrote...
Whoa, that one made me do a double take, but upon openning up the image and zooming in, there is a definite pattern of paint on the spikes going back that I don't think matches Sidonus. I need a good side-by-side to be sure, though.

Not likely. Sidonis whole face is white covered and his sides have a little blue, so I think this guy is someone new.

[Homebound]

2 renegade choices that made perfect sense to me were, using your spectre status to renegade the guy to talk in thane's mission, and shooting the gas pipe below the werloc clan leader to stfu him.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Hellbound555 wrote...

2 renegade choices that made perfect sense to me were, using your spectre status to renegade the guy to talk in thane's mission, and shooting the gas pipe below the werloc clan leader to stfu him.

Also shooting that piece in Hock's gallery to get him to stfu.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

I'm going to play some devil's advocate here and give you a reason TIM might be attacking Shepard.

He's sending his forces out for the soul purpose of losing to him. He wants to antagonise all the different factions of the galaxy so Shepard can save them from Cerberus, by saving them from Cerberus Shepard can more easily rally the troops for the final battle. Like the Krogan princess saving her would sway all the Krogan clans to unite behind Shepard. TIM would know how they'd react to their fertile females being killed and how they would follow Shepard if he saved their future.

Its seems a bit far fetched but it seems somewhat possible.

[shep82]

shiftylookingspacecow wrote...

Sorry, can't quote on an iPod. Somebody said that we know TIM is indoctrinated in ME3, but we don't know that, and personally, I don't think that he is.

Not for certain but it would make sense considering how much reaper tech he's been around.

[shep82]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

I'm going to play some devil's advocate here and give you a reason TIM might be attacking Shepard.

He's sending his forces out for the soul purpose of losing to him. He wants to antagonise all the different factions of the galaxy so Shepard can save them from Cerberus, by saving them from Cerberus Shepard can more easily rally the troops for the final battle. Like the Krogan princess saving her would sway all the Krogan clans to unite behind Shepard. TIM would know how they'd react to their fertile females being killed and how they would follow Shepard if he saved their future.

Its seems a bit far fetched but it seems somewhat possible.

I hope they didn't go that route.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

2 renegade choices that made perfect sense to me were, using your spectre status to renegade the guy to talk in thane's mission, and shooting the gas pipe below the werloc clan leader to stfu him.

Also shooting that piece in Hock's gallery to get him to stfu.

I think another good renegade choice is exposing Tali's father's research if you want peace between the Quarians and Geth. Exposing that research makes the work politicaly toxic and forces large amounts of ships to actively offer peace to the Geth.

[shep82]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

2 renegade choices that made perfect sense to me were, using your spectre status to renegade the guy to talk in thane's mission, and shooting the gas pipe below the werloc clan leader to stfu him.

Also shooting that piece in Hock's gallery to get him to stfu.

I think another good renegade choice is exposing Tali's father's research if you want peace between the Quarians and Geth. Exposing that research makes the work politicaly toxic and forces large amounts of ships to actively offer peace to the Geth.

But that truly pisses off tali and you fail the mission.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

shep82 wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

I'm going to play some devil's advocate here and give you a reason TIM might be attacking Shepard.

He's sending his forces out for the soul purpose of losing to him. He wants to antagonise all the different factions of the galaxy so Shepard can save them from Cerberus, by saving them from Cerberus Shepard can more easily rally the troops for the final battle. Like the Krogan princess saving her would sway all the Krogan clans to unite behind Shepard. TIM would know how they'd react to their fertile females being killed and how they would follow Shepard if he saved their future.

Its seems a bit far fetched but it seems somewhat possible.

I hope they didn't go that route.

So do I, I only offered that as a possible reason for TIM's insane actions. Indoctrination makes the most sense and will probably be the reason for it.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

shep82 wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

2 renegade choices that made perfect sense to me were, using your spectre status to renegade the guy to talk in thane's mission, and shooting the gas pipe below the werloc clan leader to stfu him.

Also shooting that piece in Hock's gallery to get him to stfu.

I think another good renegade choice is exposing Tali's father's research if you want peace between the Quarians and Geth. Exposing that research makes the work politicaly toxic and forces large amounts of ships to actively offer peace to the Geth.

But that truly pisses off tali and you fail the mission.

Sacrifices must be made, if long term peace between the Quarians and Geth mean Tali gets a little upset than so be it.

[shiftylookingspacecow]

Im still chugging out reasons Cerberus went the way of Saren haha

[shep82]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

shep82 wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

2 renegade choices that made perfect sense to me were, using your spectre status to renegade the guy to talk in thane's mission, and shooting the gas pipe below the werloc clan leader to stfu him.

Also shooting that piece in Hock's gallery to get him to stfu.

I think another good renegade choice is exposing Tali's father's research if you want peace between the Quarians and Geth. Exposing that research makes the work politicaly toxic and forces large amounts of ships to actively offer peace to the Geth.

But that truly pisses off tali and you fail the mission.

Sacrifices must be made, if long term peace between the Quarians and Geth mean Tali gets a little upset than so be it.

TBH I never thought that option could work for that but now that you mention it it makes sense.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

Zu Long wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Thompson family wrote...

When was the RENEGADE choice ever the realistic one?

From the top of my head: Bring Down the Sky, the Rachni Queen, Dr. Saleon, the Council, the Genophage, the refinery on Zorya, Keiji's graybox, Joram Talid, Sidonis, Ronald Taylor, the Patriarch, Aresh, Oriana and publically unveiling Rael'Zorah's crime.

And possibly the pro-Cerberus choices as well, depending on your perspective.

1. I've already discussed that the true realistic option is denied you.
2. It's realistic to murder someone for crimes they had no part in?
3. It's realistic to just shoot a criminal rather than arrest them?
4. The realistic option is to destroy the geth fleet while the arms are still closed and the enemy forces are separated, rather than risk the defeat of your fleet to save a few seconds.
5. It's realistic to allow a race to die out rather than believe they can change?
6. The mission was to RESCUE THE WORKERS. Letting them die so Zaeed gets his revenge is not realistic.
7. Destroying the greybox so that...what? Kasumi isn't in danger? She's going on a suicide mission, let her keep her memories, she'll probably die anyway.
8. Because everyone knows shooting the hostage is how real police handle things.
9. Because letting your friend murder someone in cold blood is realistic.
10. Again, what is unrealistic about arresting people?
11. It's unrealistic for Shepard to lay the smack down on a couple would be assassins? What?
12. You're going to nuke the base, why kill him?
13. I don't see how keeping the knowledge of her sister secret is better. It's not like her dad is just going to stop looking for her either way.
14. Betraying your friend's wishes is realistic?

Off the top of my head, it seems like there isn't a realistic choice in there.

1. No, you stop the terrorist before he has a chance to do anything of the same sort again... the lives of the many outweigh the lives of the few.

2. Yes, they are highly prone to indoctrination and when you have the reapers to deal with, you also don't need an army of rachni helping them out. Besides she's in a cage rigged with poison... she's likely to say anything to get you to let her out, as would you.

3. Someone as sick as Dr. "Heart" ... absolutely! By shooting him out of the sky when Garrus wanted to, not only would you have ended the subjects already experimented on's suffering, you prevent him from doing it to the patients you see as husks when you meet him. Plus, you stop him from ever doing it again.

4. Realistically you'd want your full force to attack Sovereign as he is capable of taking everyone and everything down quickly, rather than waste precious reinforcements on one ship that can't even help in the fight.

5. Yeah, you just go and "believe" they can change... and see what happens. Next thing you know, the Krogan rule the universe and no other species exist. Besides, if you listen to Mordin it adapts allowing them to control the Krogan numbers, it's not going to make them extinct.

6. ACTUALLY, the mission was to help Zaeed. He wants to take out the head of the blue suns. Doing so will cripple the blue suns, at least for a short while, during the power struggle. Once again, lives of the many outweigh the lives of the few.

7. NO, you destroy the data so that the alliance or whoever doesn't came after you by thinking you know about the data.

8. This one, I'll give you... makes no sense to shoot the hostage.

9. He's a lowlife terrorist. He deserves to die, he got every one of Garrus' unit killed. 

10. This is about what he deserves, he doesn't deserve the comfy jail life after what he did. There's a reason there's a death penalty.

11. Not sure which is the renegade or paragon here... I always kill the assassins.

12. Don't remember this decision. Who's Aresh?

13. Keeping her a secret is better than not.

14. Don't even try to use that as an argument since you already went against Garrus' wishes. 

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Reed, Sidonis isn't a terrorist...he never committed an act of terrorism, he narked on his squad,that isn't terrorism....and Zaeeds mission was the liberate the facility from the blue suns,not to kill Vido at any cost,the Vido deal was Zaeed's personal thing,not the contract.

[Yezdigerd]

shep82 wrote...

Yezdigerd wrote...

One of my favourite renegade sillies is the murder of Fist in front of witnesses and this is even before Shep becomes a spectre and casually start executing people in the citadel market.

Wait a minute how do you do that? AFAIK you can only kill him in his room.

So? assuming the citadel have any semblance of justice system corresponding to the real world, slaughtering 15+ people assaulting a Night club would merit some kind of hearing. Is there a reason to believe Kaidan or Ashely would lie under oath to cover Shepard's murder of Fist?
I doubt even C-sec is empowered to summary execute people on the citadel, much less a navy commander from a prospective membership race.

[Thompson family]

laecraft wrote...


And yet there is something strange about it. Why not planet-strike the building Shepard is in? Why not equip one of the toopers with a bomb? They're all ready to die anyway. [etc.]

Completely logically valid, laecraft -- was with the Geth in ME1 too.

Modifié par Thompson family, 27 août 2011 - 01:37 .

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

Yezdigerd wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Yezdigerd wrote...

One of my favourite renegade sillies is the murder of Fist in front of witnesses and this is even before Shep becomes a spectre and casually start executing people in the citadel market.

Wait a minute how do you do that? AFAIK you can only kill him in his room.

So? assuming the citadel have any semblance of justice system corresponding to the real world, slaughtering 15+ people assaulting a Night club would merit some kind of hearing. Is there a reason to believe Kaidan or Ashely would lie under oath to cover Shepard's murder of Fist?
I doubt even C-sec is empowered to summary execute people on the citadel, much less a navy commander from a prospective membership race.

They know about the reapers and unlike the council, c-sec, etc they actually know enough to try to stop them and they need Shepard for that. 

[Squidbreath]

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Whoa, that one made me do a double take, but upon openning up the image and zooming in, there is a definite pattern of paint on the spikes going back that I don't think matches Sidonus. I need a good side-by-side to be sure, though.
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Already been mentioned, but they're not even close.
http://th09.devianta...nt_by_Meken.jpg

^ he's got purple stripes on the mandibles, no curly white marks on the fringe at all.

I'm going with the General Partinax from Cerberus Daily theory.

Modifié par Squidbreath, 27 août 2011 - 02:39 .

[RAF1940]

Really, the Renegade choice is usually the logical one. Paragon is more emotion-centric.

[Thompson family]

Squidbreath wrote...

I'm going with the General Partinax from Cerberus Daily theory.

No way to verify it yet, but that would be good.

RAF1940 wrote...

Really, the Renegade choice is usually the logical one. Paragon is more emotion-centric.

Can't agree with that. It seems far more common to me that the overriding reaction of many R decisions is emotional, and that emotion is FTW.

Modifié par Thompson family, 27 août 2011 - 03:04 .