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[shep82]

Yezdigerd wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Yezdigerd wrote...

One of my favourite renegade sillies is the murder of Fist in front of witnesses and this is even before Shep becomes a spectre and casually start executing people in the citadel market.

Wait a minute how do you do that? AFAIK you can only kill him in his room.

So? assuming the citadel have any semblance of justice system corresponding to the real world, slaughtering 15+ people assaulting a Night club would merit some kind of hearing. Is there a reason to believe Kaidan or Ashely would lie under oath to cover Shepard's murder of Fist?
I doubt even C-sec is empowered to summary execute people on the citadel, much less a navy commander from a prospective membership race.

Fist was a criminal who tried to get a young woman killed I doubt they are going to gripe. Besides he was defending himself when he killed the mercs.

[Thompson family]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Thompson family wrote...

Can't agree with that. It seems far more common to me that the overriding reaction of many R decisions is emotional, and that emotion is FTW.

Such as? Are you talking the big choices or just the Renegade dialogue?

Shooting Shiala on Feros is the first answer that comes to mind. That never made sense.

[Thompson family]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Thompson family wrote...

Shooting Shiala on Feros is the first answer that comes to mind. That never made sense.

What do you mean it doesn't make sense? She was your enemy not more than a few minutes ago and she's asking to be let go. It makes more sense to shoot her than it does to just let her go free.

Saphra, unless I'm very badly mistaken, YOU have a post ON THIS THREAD in which YOU say that decision never seemed right.

If I am mistaken, take this opportunity to heckle me good. It's been a long day today and it will be a longer day tomorrow. Hopefully I can get back to you tomorrow evening.

[habitat 67]

Unforts I havn't time to see what's most often said but, punching the merc out the window, durrrrr.

[LucidStrike]

...Hmm. Here's my first contribution to this thread:

REALISTIC: Having or showing a sensible and practical idea of what can be achieved or expected;
representing familiar things in a way that is accurate or true to life.

Now start over. o_o

[shep82]

habitat 67 wrote...

Unforts I havn't time to see what's most often said but, punching the merc out the window, durrrrr.

Maybe not realistic but I love doing it....

[habitat 67]

reboot.

[habitat 67]

shep82 wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

Unforts I havn't time to see what's most often said but, punching the merc out the window, durrrrr.

Maybe not realistic but I love doing it....

My most favorite option.

[LucidStrike]

A lot of folks seem to forget the importance of perception and perspective in these matters. The renegade often values immediately obtainable, concrete results, while the paragon is often trying to avoid unnecessary aggression and ease tensions.

Of course, it isn't quite so cut and dry, but the point is that renegades and paragons often differ in values and thus in means and ends.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

habitat 67 wrote...

shep82 wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

Unforts I havn't time to see what's most often said but, punching the merc out the window, durrrrr.

Maybe not realistic but I love doing it....

My most favorite option.

" I've got nothing left to say to you"
*push*
"How 'bout goodbye."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!

[RyuGuitarFreak]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

shep82 wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

Unforts I havn't time to see what's most often said but, punching the merc out the window, durrrrr.

Maybe not realistic but I love doing it....

My most favorite option.

" I've got nothing left to say to you"
*push*
"How 'bout goodbye."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!

Oh yeah, so cheesy.

I think the renegade persuasion is way more awesome.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

"What sound will you make when you hit the ground? Do you think you'll hear it before you die?"

[Biotic Sage]

In my opinion the most badass Shep line isn't even a renegade one at all if I remember right:

"You see my gun. Do you really wanna do this?" *brandishes pistol"

[Quyk Sylvyr]

I actually think several renegade choices are realistic:
- killing the captured salarian commander on Virmire (I usually let him go because I'm a firm believer in allowing free choice but I still think it's 90% likely he's indoctrinated)
- killing Rana
- killing the ship technician while recruiting Garrus in ME2
- killing the Eclipse chic while recruiting Samara
- killing the Rachni queen (remember, there's nothing to suggest that whatever affected the old queens is not going to affect the new queen)

Huh. . . kind of funny after listing everything, I realized all the renegade options involve killing something/someone.

[khordlambert]

Quyk Sylvyr wrote...

I actually think several renegade choices are realistic:
- killing the captured salarian commander on Virmire (I usually let him go because I'm a firm believer in allowing free choice but I still think it's 90% likely he's indoctrinated)
- killing Rana
- killing the ship technician while recruiting Garrus in ME2
- killing the Eclipse chic while recruiting Samara
- killing the Rachni queen (remember, there's nothing to suggest that whatever affected the old queens is not going to affect the new queen)

Huh. . . kind of funny after listing everything, I realized all the renegade options involve killing something/someone.

Not really that funny. Renagade Sheps have some rather sociopathic tones to them at times. Which tends to make me wonder about some of the people on the forums. Especially three people I'll avoid mentioning out of politeness. Now that I think about it...I need to find my textbooks.

[Yezdigerd]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

They know about the reapers and unlike the council, c-sec, etc they actually know enough to try to stop them and they need Shepard for that. 

No they don't, and even if they did, the more reason to have psycopath Shepard replaced with a commander who knows what duty requires.

[Yezdigerd]

shep82 wrote...

Yezdigerd wrote...

shep82 wrote...

Yezdigerd wrote...

One of my favourite renegade sillies is the murder of Fist in front of witnesses and this is even before Shep becomes a spectre and casually start executing people in the citadel market.

Wait a minute how do you do that? AFAIK you can only kill him in his room.

So? assuming the citadel have any semblance of justice system corresponding to the real world, slaughtering 15+ people assaulting a Night club would merit some kind of hearing. Is there a reason to believe Kaidan or Ashely would lie under oath to cover Shepard's murder of Fist?
I doubt even C-sec is empowered to summary execute people on the citadel, much less a navy commander from a prospective membership race.

Fist was a criminal who tried to get a young woman killed I doubt they are going to gripe. Besides he was defending himself when he killed the mercs.

What country do you come from where servicemen wouldn't gripe about officers murdering criminals? Actually he wasn't defending himself he assaulted a privateowned nightclub, instead of handeling the evidence over to the police he went on a killing spree, but that is the same for paragons.

[shiftylookingspacecow]

A renegade choice I never got was turning down spectre reinstatement.
"Shepard, would you like to be completely untouchable by council law again?"
"No! You mad me mad at you!"

[Zarathiel]

shiftylookingspacecow wrote...

A renegade choice I never got was turning down spectre reinstatement.
"Shepard, would you like to be completely untouchable by council law again?"
"No! You mad me mad at you!"

They needed a dialogue option that rejects Spectre status and decided to put it where renegade responses go. Thankfuly, it gives no points at all so it can be completely ignored by players trying to max either alignment.

It's really more of an "Idiot" dialogue choice, since it's independent of morality, much like choosing to sleep with Morinth.

[shiftylookingspacecow]

Bleh. I never took much notice in points. I only thought it counted for it's lower location on the dialouge wheel.

[Wereparrot]

spurkis wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Wereparrot wrote...

I'll never understand why the game considers it renegade to lay down the law to crewmates who need the riot act read to them; namely Jack and Grunt. Paragon Shepard seems to prefer anarchy as a form of government.

Paragon Shepard is too much of a chump and a boyscout. Neutral/Renegade actually acts like a CO.

I enjoy having my Shepard put her foot down and put Grunt,Jack,Joker,Gabby and Ken in their place.

With Garrus in ME1 it was the opposite, remember? Renegade, and you'd encourage him to be a scumbag as long as the job gets done. Paragon, and you'd order him to be more formal and respectful for regulations.  

I wouldn't say that he becomes a 'scumbag'. I myself sigh at constricting beurocracy. All Shepard does is reinforce his belief that certain regulations are not worthy of respect because they hamper operational efficiency, and I agree to an extent. And if Shepard tells him off for wanting to kill Saren, he is  in the wrong job; talking Saren round to your side just isn't realistically going to happen. Killing him is the only way.