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[SandTrout]

Wulfram wrote...

Killing Fist is particularly foolish, because it's murder and you don't have Spectre status to protect you from potential prosecution.

You don't have any witnesses to claim it wasn't self-defense either.

I always let Wrex kill him, anyways.

[Seboist]

Wulfram wrote...

Killing Fist is particularly foolish, because it's murder and you don't have Spectre status to protect you from potential prosecution.

But going in and gunning everyone else down in the club is perfectly fine?

[Wulfram]

Seboist wrote...

But going in and gunning everyone else down in the club is perfectly fine?

You at least have a decent reason for this - saving a Quarian thought to be in possession of evidence of galactic import.  While the only reason for killing Fist is that you think he deserves it.

[Someone With Mass]

Wulfram wrote...

Seboist wrote...

But going in and gunning everyone else down in the club is perfectly fine?

You at least have a decent reason for this - saving a Quarian thought to be in possession of evidence of galactic import.  While the only reason for killing Fist is that you think he deserves it.

Besides, they shot first. I have a right to defend myself.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Saphra, Seboist, and Dave all in one thread.
It's a rabidly pro-Cerberus party!

Leave yo reason and yo sense of ethics at the door because team Failberus is here to fail to save the day!

[SandTrout]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Saphra, Seboist, and Dave all in one thread.
It's a rabidly pro-Cerberus party!

Leave yo reason and yo sense of ethics at the door because team Failberus is here to fail to save the day!

That was unnecessary.

[Lotion Soronarr]

SandTrout wrote...

Yes, though TIM is still responsible for not exercising appropriate oversight on the project.

There is no perfect oversight. At least accodring to the fluff, tIM has a lot of oversight. But then the game goes and contradicts this.

Funny thing is - name someone woh's better at it than them? The council? With their specters running amok, killing civilians and leading reaper invasions? With Krogan running amok, and Turains running amok with the genophage? Wo..excellent oversight there. Alliance? Yeah...right. They got plenty of fail on their own.  Shadow Broker? Both of them failed.  I can go on the whoel day.


Really, when it comes to oversight, Cerberus isn't any worse taht anyone else in the galaxy apparently. Everyone in the galaxy is a gaint walking faliure in that regard.

[Ninjapino]

Everyone else is held down by politics and trying to play nice with each other. Cerberus doesn't bother with any of that. They do what they want simply because it will advance them and them alone. There is no trying to talk it out or trying to come to another decision.....it's simply "will this benefit Cerberus at all?" If the answer is yes, then they'll do it at any cost despite who it might hurt.

I'm failing to see how the Shadow Broker fails, though. With the exception of being tracked down by Cerberus and Liara, the SB didn't actually have any goals other then to sell info to the highest bidder. He wasn't trying to save anyone, stop any fight, or help any one side.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

SandTrout wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Saphra, Seboist, and Dave all in one thread.
It's a rabidly pro-Cerberus party!

Leave yo reason and yo sense of ethics at the door because team Failberus is here to fail to save the day!

That was unnecessary.

It certainly was.
But it made me laugh and with the wretched hive status the forum has achieved that's really the best you can hope for anymore.

[Seboist]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Saphra, Seboist, and Dave all in one thread.
It's a rabidly pro-Cerberus party!

Leave yo reason and yo sense of ethics at the door because team Failberus is here to fail to save the day!

That was unnecessary.

It certainly was.
But it made me laugh and with the wretched hive status the forum has achieved that's really the best you can hope for anymore.

The Cerberus blood brotherhood doesn't forget slights like that ya know.

[SkittlesKat96]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Saphra, Seboist, and Dave all in one thread.
It's a rabidly pro-Cerberus party!

Leave yo reason and yo sense of ethics at the door because team Failberus is here to fail to save the day!

That was unnecessary.

It certainly was.
But it made me laugh and with the wretched hive status the forum has achieved that's really the best you can hope for anymore.

You are a complete fool, Cerberus as far as I am concerned are the only rational people in the galaxy.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Seboist wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Saphra, Seboist, and Dave all in one thread.
It's a rabidly pro-Cerberus party!

Leave yo reason and yo sense of ethics at the door because team Failberus is here to fail to save the day!

That was unnecessary.

It certainly was.
But it made me laugh and with the wretched hive status the forum has achieved that's really the best you can hope for anymore.

The Cerberus blood brotherhood doesn't forget slights like that ya know.

Given their sucess rate I feel perfectly safe.

[Seboist]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Saphra, Seboist, and Dave all in one thread.
It's a rabidly pro-Cerberus party!

Leave yo reason and yo sense of ethics at the door because team Failberus is here to fail to save the day!

That was unnecessary.

It certainly was.
But it made me laugh and with the wretched hive status the forum has achieved that's really the best you can hope for anymore.

The Cerberus blood brotherhood doesn't forget slights like that ya know.

Given their sucess rate I feel perfectly safe.

The former Pope begs to differ.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Seboist wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Saphra, Seboist, and Dave all in one thread.
It's a rabidly pro-Cerberus party!

Leave yo reason and yo sense of ethics at the door because team Failberus is here to fail to save the day!

That was unnecessary.

It certainly was.
But it made me laugh and with the wretched hive status the forum has achieved that's really the best you can hope for anymore.

The Cerberus blood brotherhood doesn't forget slights like that ya know.

Given their sucess rate I feel perfectly safe.

The former Pope begs to differ.

I'm positively quaking in my boots.

[aiDvEoN]

ITT: Renegades complain about how being a conceited, bloodthirsty, racist, terrorist sympathising jerk yields the expected results.

A few of the decisions discussed here
Killing Balak: I agree with this one. The Hegemony has a track record of supporting terrorist actions against us, and a maniac like him will try this sort of.madness again. Take him out.

Dr Heart/Sidonis: All killing either of them does is soothe a bruised ego. It doesn't help their victims. And in Sidonis' case, its crueller to let him.live.

Feros: Seriously, you won't even try the gas?

Rachni: This one is grey. Personally, I won't do genocide.

Council: again, grey. I say Focusing on sovereign is a legitimate choice, given its a threat to all life in the galaxy.

Rael: anything I say will be dismissed since I'm a talimancer, but I'll say it anyway. They get the ship back. The truth will come out as a result, so what the spork do we gain from betraying the trust of our chief engineer when she's already at her emotional breaking point?

The base: you're kidding right? This is even a question? Hand over the super fun happy indoctrination factory to a pack of racial supremacist terrorists with a track record of incompetence, manipulation and lying to you? Hell. No.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Ninjapino wrote...

Everyone else is held down by politics and trying to play nice with each other. Cerberus doesn't bother with any of that. They do what they want simply because it will advance them and them alone. There is no trying to talk it out or trying to come to another decision.....it's simply "will this benefit Cerberus at all?" If the answer is yes, then they'll do it at any cost despite who it might hurt.

I don't see what this has got to do with anything. How does being a huge givernment prevent oversight?
Also, Cerberus is in the buisness of advancing humanity. So no, it's not "cerberus and cerberus alone"

I'm failing to see how the Shadow Broker fails, though. With the exception of being tracked down by Cerberus and Liara, the SB didn't actually have any goals other then to sell info to the highest bidder. He wasn't trying to save anyone, stop any fight, or help any one side.

Shadow broker wasnted to cash in. On Sheppard, Liara and others. The first one faield because he didn't have enough oversight over his "pet". The second one failed because people working for him failed and leaked his location.

Again, we see a pattern of faliure all over the galaxy.
Sheppard is needed by everyone to fix their problems.

[Wulfram]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Also, Cerberus is in the buisness of advancing humanity. So no, it's not "cerberus and cerberus alone"

Except of course in TIM's eyes "Cerberus is Humanity".

[Xilizhra]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...

To say we are "smarter and braver" is to make a subjective judgement.  "Better" is a term used by someone trying to trump up their argument without presenting any cold, hard facts.

I've given facts. Here and elsewhere many times.

Humans created carriers. Humans created medigel. Humans created the tantalus drive core. Humans created stealth in space. Humans created EDI. Humans brought a man back from death. Humans defeated the Collectors. Humans defeated the Shadow Broker. Humans conquered the Citadel Council (something even the rachni and krogan failed to do). Humans found a way to control geth.

There are probably others that I'm forgetting.

I'm not saying the other races aren't capable of doing anything, but humans always come out on top.

I'll concede the first two. However, the turians codeveloped the Normandy, EDI and Lazarus were largely looted from the Reapers, the Collectors and Shadow Broker required nonhuman help, the Council thing is just stepping into a void that was actually created by the geth, and the attempt to control geth killed almost everyone working on it.

And even if I did assume that your statement was true, wouldn't that mean that humans required the least help of any race?

[Lotion Soronarr]

Wulfram wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Also, Cerberus is in the buisness of advancing humanity. So no, it's not "cerberus and cerberus alone"

Except of course in TIM's eyes "Cerberus is Humanity".

You're taking it too literally bub. Take a look back at the context and realize taht the phrase can have several meanings.

[Seboist]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Roxy12 wrote...

Ok, you don't believe in the right to a fair trial or the principle innocent until proven guilty, I get it. But that doesn't make the decision realistic - just downright evil.

I believe in the right to a fair trial, but Spectres aren't required to uphold that right.

In any case I never kill Shiala because I think it is weird to have Shepard turn around and mistrust her right after he let her mindmeld with him.

She still deserves to be punished for aiding and abetting Saren.

[Barquiel]

Seboist wrote...

She still deserves to be punished for aiding and abetting Saren.

Maybe. Maybe not.

But this is not your decision to make.

[Xilizhra]

Humans are bold, as I said.

So, dangerous and unbalanced. And if they're so successful, I don't see any reason why I need to be propping them up specifically.