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[Someone With Mass]

leonia42 wrote...

I'm inclined to agree. Referring to the Reapers as Masters would make sense for them.

Legion refers to them as the "Old Machines", though.

[Pulletlamer]

Saphra Deden wrote...

@Pulletisalamegamer

Who said anything about board RPG's? You ever try free-form roleplaying? With the right community it is the best RP there is.

Failing that, try your hand at writing.

EDIT

I didn't edit your name intentionally. I just got sloppy writing it down.

LARP is totally different thing from a classic RPG. They have no "rules" to begin with. It's more close to acting  (playing a role) than anything else. Only that you are not restricted to a script.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeform_role-playing_game

Oh and you have portrayed yourself officially as a mere hypocrite. Trying to justify intentionally wtriting my name wrong with my typos is just laughable.

Modifié par Pulletlamer, 24 août 2011 - 03:01 .

[CaptainZaysh]

Pulletlamer wrote...

LARP is totally different thing from a classic RPG. They have no "rules" to begin with. It's more close to acting  (playing a role) than anything else. Only that you are not restricted to a script.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeform_role-playing_game

"Lightning bolt!  Lightning bolt!"

[LilyasAvalon]

How beautiful!

...In a disturbing and creepy way.

[Pulletlamer]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Pulletlamerislame wrote...

Trying to justify intentionally wtriting my name wrong with my typos is just laughable.

Oh wow, go out and buy yourself a sense of humor.

Grow up. Resorting to childish acts like that only make you look bad and give other people reasons to take your "reasonings" less seriously.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Arcian wrote...

Seriously, Saphra, shut the f**k up.

Ah, way to prove your point. Nothing wrong with insulting people through wit and subtlety, but please do remember that the mods probably won't take kindly to you bypassing the censor in such a rude way.

Also, I have to say that I probably would've preferred to meet Zaeed and Kasumi in the missions described there.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 24 août 2011 - 03:12 .

[jojon2se]

It does indeed sound very likely collector-ish.

Cut material was always cut for a reason, but compared to the Harbinger_and_his_Collector_remote_control thing, that ME2 ended up with, I get a general, considerably better feeling, from the concept of the Collectors acting on their own, after recovering a damaged Reaper artifact and being less faceless- and even sadder figures; The indoctrinated servants that were left behind and in their abandonment tries to reconnect with their masters and prove their worth.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out they began something like this and possibly had more of a side-story significance, but were changed to tighten the story around the Reaper threat - I may prefer the alternative, but considering how much complaint there has been about story deviation, as it is...

[Pulletlamer]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Pulletlamerissensitive wrote...

Grow up. Resorting to childish acts like that only make you look bad and give other people reasons to take your "reasonings" less seriously.

If people can't accept a well reasoned and logical opinion because they don't like the person presenting it then that's their problem. It means they're an idiot for letting their emotions get in the way of their logic.

Now, seriously, get a sense of humor. Somebody writing your name wrong (and it was indeed an accident the first time) is not going to hurt you.

I won't even respond to the first part since I fail to se how that is relevant in any way. I never said anything about emotions not my post was intended to be emotionally written or influenced by emotion.

And no, intentionally calling me Pulletgamer and then Pulletlame, it's clearly intentional. Basically because you had to write it, since you quoted those parts individually and expressly. Don't make yourself look like if you are the goodness personificated and you did it on accident, now.  IF it was true it was unintentional, then instead of saying it was a typo, you continued writing my name wrong. Good work. Way to apologize right?..not.

And then you tell me to get a sense of humour. Would you like me calling you wrong, more than once? I could have a lot of ideas to mess with your name, but I don't resort to childish acts like those. It's pathetic.

Also that your opinion is well reasoned and logical is very debatable.

Modifié par Pulletlamer, 24 août 2011 - 03:26 .

[TobyHasEyes]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Pulletlamer wrote...

And no, intentionally calling me Pulletgamer and then Pulletlame, it's clearly intentional.

No, it was not intentional. Now ****** off.

 

[LilyasAvalon]

...BSN always jumps to the oddest topics. How'd you all go from Reaper Speech to LARPing?

[Pulletlamer]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

...BSN always jumps to the oddest topics. How'd you all go from Reaper Speech to LARPing?

Stubbornness of some people.

[Mythanblood]

And this is what happens when one responds to the insults and posts of trolls, rather than to report them.

[Seboist]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Seriously, Saphra, shut the f**k up.

Ah, way to prove your point. Nothing wrong with insulting people through wit and subtlety, but please do remember that the mods probably won't take kindly to you bypassing the censor in such a rude way.

Also, I have to say that I probably would've preferred to meet Zaeed and Kasumi in the missions described there.

It's a damn shame my favorite ME2 squadmate Zaeed didn't have a recruitment mission.

[CaptainZaysh]

The vibe I'm getting is that Reaperhood is a kind of digital afterlife. You go through the smoothie machine and somehow you're still you. Only now you are your own "world", and you're also able to interact with everybody else's world, to the point where you share memories with everybody else. You'd have a perfect understanding of everybody else. All the surviving members of humanity, united and working toward a common purpose. You're you, but you're also no longer you, you're ten billion other people all at the same time. You love everybody because you completely understand everybody and you're omniscient. In a way you've become a god.  Or part of one, at least.

Moreover you're connected to the other Reapers somehow. So you're merged with all the other members of all the other species that Ascended before you.

The thing is, this existence seems kinda good to me in concept. I'm not saying I'd do a Saren, but I've lost loved ones. Sometimes I wish I could just see them again, just for a few seconds. Imagine never having to lose anybody ever again? Imagine eternal life? All you'd need to do to keep things interesting would be to create a new Reaper every few millennia.

Modifié par CaptainZaysh, 24 août 2011 - 04:07 .

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...
If people can't accept a well reasoned and logical opinion because they don't like the person presenting it then that's their problem. It means they're an idiot for letting their emotions get in the way of their logic.

Now, seriously, get a sense of humor. Somebody writing your name wrong (and it was indeed an accident the first time) is not going to hurt you.

Just because you say it's logical doesn't make it true.

[Dean_the_Young]

Aye, the Reapers have always been a technological-singularity entity in portrayal, and collectivity-gestalt is one of the common interpretations.

It seems like it must be abhorrent because we're, well, us, and we haven't seen it the Promised Land. A lot of people have also suggested the Reapers indoctrinate/program/force/coerce new Reapers into their views, as if it's unnatural. But, when you get to a point, enlightenment that can be spread looks a lot like mind control to the rest of everyone who isn't in on it.

In a vague sense, it's like a missionary religion/ideology. People who convert/grow up in it think its great: people being converted are far less so (until it does, a horrific point that puts fear into others).

I wouldn't be surprised if the key aspect of Indoctrination is the 'enlightenment' about that singularity. It may well be less control and more of the realization of the virtue of the singularity, and thus the willingness to do anything for it.

[Dean_the_Young]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Just because you say it's logical doesn't make it true.

What makes it logical is the reasoning and evidence I use to come to a conclusion.

Let's not get into tautology land here. You are quite capable of having fallacies and mistakes and illogical-priorities cloud your thinking, Saphra. You certainly let your temper rule you far too often.

[Sundance31us]

CaptainZaysh wrote...
Firstly: I can't believe this was cut.  It's beautiful.

I don't think it's beautiful.

Secondly.  What's your interpretation of this?

The passage is typical of the charismatic claptrap one would expect a perpetrator to feed its victim before the “act” is committed.

[el master pr]

Luc0s wrote...

CaptainZaysh wrote...

Cut text recovered from the bowels of ME2:

It was lonely. It called to us.
It wanted to remember. The Masters had been gone so long.
The Masters were lost when it was shattered.
Currents swept through their inner worlds. They were turned to noise. Babble.
The worlds were empty. But the body lived. It lay fallow.
The heart pumped. The lungs breathed. But the mind forgot the Masters.
It called and They did not answer.
We have become an echo of Their echo.
We have become more than we were.
Join us. Know us. Remember all our lives.
We are no longer afraid.
You would never be lonely again.
We are not your enemy. We only wish to share ourselves.
We can join them. We can be like them.
We can reach the end of evolution.
Do not fear. It is wonderful to be us. We understand ourselves.
You cannot defeat them. They will lead us into eternity.
If you could only see how we see. Know what we've learned.
They were called imshai. Those who lived here before.
Reaper. One. A mechanical device used to cut ripened grain. Two. One who gathers a harvest.
Harvest. One. The consequence of an event or series of events. Two. The yield of a growing season. Three. To gather.
Shepard. They know you. They wish you to understand. They are shepherds, too.

Firstly: I can't believe this was cut.  It's beautiful.

Secondly.  What's your interpretation of this?

Does it sound really stupid if I say I think this could have been something from the human reaper embryo? Maybe that thing would have said this, but then the devs decided to cut it because it would be too awkward or something?


I really think the human reaper embryo could have said this or texted this or something. I don't know. What do you guys think? Does my idea make sense?

This is very interesting and would've been way too mindblowin'... which is good!

It's a bad thing that interesting material like this gets cut, for whatever reason it was.

[Dean_the_Young]

Sounds more appropriate for the Derilect Reaper to me, actually.