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The Song of Ice and Fire and Dragon Age?


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It may be that they just borrow from the same generalities of fantasy stories but several times throughout the first four books I have been like "This reminds me of Dragon Age". What spurred me to write this commenting on the similarities in them is that there is a kitten named Ser-Pounce in a book from 2005. Not saying there is anything wrong, I love both series but if we have to watch Flemeth or someone hatch dragon eggs by walking into a fire with them, I'm going to sigh.

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I think ASOIF is one of the inspirations for the series.

The Grey Wardens are a more respected version of the Night's Watch, for example.

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It has been stated by the game developers that ASOIAF was an inspiration for the game - and there are definitely a number of parallels between the two.

Personally, I thought that dwarven politics mirrored Westeros politics in many ways. That might not have been intentional on Bioware's part, however.

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I never knew that, that would explain a lot. I thought that thedas politics in general mirrored westeros and Dragon Age 2's treatment of Hawke mirrors George RR Martin's treatment of his characters (Thankfully we don't have a ned stark.... yet.)

Modifié par Sajuro, 25 août 2011 - 05:56 .


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Highever is Winterfell, the Couslands are the Starks, and Rendon Howe is Roose Bolton. It all makes sense now. :D

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CrimsonZephyr wrote...

Highever is Winterfell, the Couslands are the Starks, and Rendon Howe is Roose Bolton. It all makes sense now. :D


Ha! I thought the exact same thing - Bryce even somewhat resembles Sean Bean (though the TV series hadn't been made yet when DA:O came out).

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Sajuro wrote...
I never knew that, that would explain a lot. I thought that thedas politics in general mirrored westeros and Dragon Age 2's treatment of Hawke mirrors George RR Martin's treatment of his characters (Thankfully we don't have a ned stark.... yet.)


Yes, there are definitely parallels in Ferelden politics as well. But Orzammar should seriously have the quote "when you play the game of thrones, you win or you die" carved into a big stone tablet and hung up where everyone can see it.

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I know that playing Origins, I got a very strong "Lords of the Rings meets A Song of Ice and Fire" vibe from it.
(...while the Darkspawn were more like "Uruk-hai meet the Zerg".)

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ourimaler wrote...

I know that playing Origins, I got a very strong "Lords of the Rings meets A Song of Ice and Fire" vibe from it.
(...while the Darkspawn were more like "Uruk-hai meet the Zerg".)

I think that the Darkspawn and ghouls reminded me more of the Others and Wights, especially in the first game the nobles are like "Darkspawn are no big deal, why do we even need the wardens?Lets murder them." and in tsoiaf they are like "lolololol the others are only a bed time story, why do we even need the wall? lets murder people there too."

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greengoron89 wrote...

It has been stated by the game developers that ASOIAF was an inspiration for the game - and there are definitely a number of parallels between the two.


I'd been wondering about this, actually; I hadn't begun reading the A Song of Ice and Fire series when I first played Dragon Age, but since reading through the books I've really noticed the parallels.

Not that this is bad, mind you; I enjoy both immensely.

And, seriously? Sean Bean. Sigh. Sean Bean. I don't care that you're older than both my parents; you are a beautiful, beautiful man.

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Loghain reminds me a bit of Tywin. I think its the combination of a sympathetic goal (Tywin's is to redeem House Lannister's reputation after his father turned the family into a joke, whereas Loghain's is to protect Ferelden) and general ruthlessness (although Tywin is far more worse than Loghain in that regard).

Anora is a less ambitious and more competent Cersei.

Alistair seems to be based off of certain fan theories regarding Jon Snow's parentage.

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lrrose wrote...

Loghain reminds me a bit of Tywin.


*shudder* As ruthless as Loghain was, I don't know if I'd go that far. Posted Image


Alistair seems to be based off of certain fan theories regarding Jon Snow's parentage.


Haha, hadn't noticed that paralell either. Though John Snow and Alistair are just about as different as two young men could be.

Except the whole, you know, Night's Watch/Grey Warden thing. . . Posted Image

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Is it just me or do the Ash Warriors give off a stronger Night's Watch vibe now with the codex entries from the new item pack?

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Sajuro wrote...

I never knew that, that would explain a lot. I thought that thedas politics in general mirrored westeros and Dragon Age 2's treatment of Hawke mirrors George RR Martin's treatment of his characters (Thankfully we don't have a ned stark.... yet.)


I'm upset over what happened to Ned:crying:

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OmegaXI wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I never knew that, that would explain a lot. I thought that thedas politics in general mirrored westeros and Dragon Age 2's treatment of Hawke mirrors George RR Martin's treatment of his characters (Thankfully we don't have a ned stark.... yet.)


I'm upset over what happened to Ned:crying:

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Though his final trolling may be dieing before finishing the series if he doesn't hurry up

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Brienne = Aveline. And I get a definite Meera vibe from Merrill. I even hear Merrill's voice in my head while reading her dialogue. I'm fine with it, though. All we need now is Hodor. Everyone needs a big dumb giant in their party.

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OmegaXI wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I never knew that, that would explain a lot. I thought that thedas politics in general mirrored westeros and Dragon Age 2's treatment of Hawke mirrors George RR Martin's treatment of his characters (Thankfully we don't have a ned stark.... yet.)


I'm upset over what happened to Ned:crying:


The Red Wedding upset me more, especially because Robb would have been such a badass had he lived to become an adult. **** you, Roose.

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nedpepper wrote...

Brienne = Aveline. And I get a definite Meera vibe from Merrill.


Aveline is older Brienne, yes but...Ha! Merrill wishes she was awesome like Meera.

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nedpepper wrote...

Brienne = Aveline. And I get a definite Meera vibe from Merrill. I even hear Merrill's voice in my head while reading her dialogue. I'm fine with it, though. All we need now is Hodor. Everyone needs a big dumb giant in their party.

Enchantment!

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I've been reading those books myself actually and I've noticed some slight similarities. Maybe its just coincidence but considering the writing and concepts for DA 2 were probably all suggested by many different people I wouldn't be surprised if they did take a bit of inspiration from those books, after all they are good books.

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I confess without HBO I never would've known there was a fantasy series out there with ideas such as the Wall (Ostagar), the Night's Watch (the Grey Wardens), North of the Wall (the Kokari Wilds and the frozen lands to the south), major political intrigue and questionable moral decisions that have to be made.

I really thought DAO had some original ideas when I played it. After the first season of GoT I naturally started doing some reading and researching and learned it was not so original. But since it came first FOR ME Origins did not lose it's luster.

Now w DA2 the story seems to be taking on more of it's own qualities. At least until someone points out what else it mirrors. :-)

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Huh. I hadn't really given it much thought until stumbling on this thread.  The similarities (at least with Origins) are uncanny.
Not that it entirely matters to me, though. Origins has enough originality not to be a complete copy and enough quality to be immensely enjoyable, even with the similarities.

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The Red Wedding upset me more, especially because Robb would have been such a badass had he lived to become an adult. **** you, Roose.

FFFFFFFFFF. And here I had the retarded assumption I'd go safely through this thread without encountering too many mindblowing spoilers. Crud.

Curse you, Martin, and your killing pretty much all characters I like. Curse you. QQ

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Lilu: If you are reading the books, then sorry. Your stuck as they cannot be undone.

However, if you are following the series on HBO, the TV version is "based on" the books.

I have a strong suspicion Martin is going to change things for the TV series so he can redeem the mess he made of the books. So maybee Robb will live there.

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CrimsonZephyr wrote...

The Red Wedding upset me more, especially because Robb would have been such a badass had he lived to become an adult. **** you, Roose.


Seriously.

I am choosing, however, to blame the Freys. Because, well, Bolton is MY name! For that reason alone, Roose is on my short list of two people (the other bring Petyr Baelish) that I know are real d-bags, but I can't help but like.

Somehow I think I've dragged the thread more off-topic. Apologies.

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Hanz54321 wrote...

Lilu: If you are reading the books, then sorry. Your stuck as they cannot be undone.

However, if you are following the series on HBO, the TV version is "based on" the books.

I have a strong suspicion Martin is going to change things for the TV series so he can redeem the mess he made of the books. So maybee Robb will live there.

I hope not, because even though I was sad when Robb died I feel it changed the course of the story and so many of the points wouldn't have happened without his death, oh and the foreshadowing was masterful.