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The game establishes the existence of the Reapers at a time that predates the earliest known hominids by 30 million years.

"Humanity" did not create the Reapers.

Stop sucking the teat of bad scifi shows.

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I think that humanity created the reapers, the relays and the citadel...not current humanity of course, but an ancient civilization( somewhat like the mayans inca's and what not)
And that we had the same conflict as the quarians and the geth have and almost beat the reapers, but they send some biological weapon to  wipe us out ( aka the cold like in war of the worlds LOL) which it nearly did, save for let's say 60 000 people, after the reapers believed our civilization ended the reapers went to the far regions of space but after let's say 100000 years another organic species reached their full potential, found out about humanity being destroyed by the reapers ( without knowing the full backstory...meaning humanity wanted to wipe out the machines before they got to dangerous...think matrix) and considered the reapers to be a threat and attacked , after a hard battle the reapers just barely won and wiped out this civilization as well..not for gain but for survival.
After this last act of war started by organics the reapers studied "organics" and found that on average a civilization needed 50000 years to reach its apex and therefore been considered a threat to the survival of the reapers, they also found that organics had one quality they as machines didn't have and sorely missed  and that is creativity ( from songs to paintings, to imagining things which leads to new discoveries), they only have logic and they found out that it wasn't enough to maintain their survival and that they needed the creative input of organics and decided to absorb organic civilizations in order to stay ahead of the curve..basic survival.

Humanity in the meantime had forgotten about their past ( the same as we really don''t know much about our origins really) and started  building their civilization again, when they discovered the relays and shepard  defeated the reapers in ME1 the reapers recognised their old enemy again and decide to destroy the one human who could thwart them and killed him in ME2( through the collectors), at the start of ME3 the reapers find out that there is something hidden on earth which could drive out the reapers from known space or at least have vital knowledge about their origins and how they are build at the end of the game shepard get's this info and you get a mission somewhat the same as the omega 4 relay ( one with a deadline), by guess it recquires a sacrifice in the end( a bit like the story of jezus, one man dying to save the eniter galaxy/humanity), if you're a Paragon you do it yourself, if you are a renegade you order Vega to do it( since he is basically the same as you), if you are neutral/sole survivor, Vega willingly unasked by you sacrifices himself.

It's just a guess though

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It would be fun if the illusive man redeems himself and that he gives you the info which triggers the final mission


No.

Human's were still primates back when the Reapers were already in full-fledged harvesting cycle mode. Unless the Reapers 'devolved' humanity, this theory isn't possible.

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I think the Reapers are...

1) ... as much of a concept as they are a species.

2) ... everything the geth are, but taken to a higher level.

First, the concept thing. Sovereign claimed that his species has neither beginning nor end. I interpret this in the following way: Every advanced civilization will eventually move past biological and onto directed technological evolution, thus achieving a Reaper-like state. Even if the current incarnation of the Reapers is utterly destroyed at the end of ME3, other species will eventually continue the cycle.

Then, the Reapers could be guides of a sort, accelerating the process and making sure it's done "right." Take the Antilin ghost ship. Its inhabitants were growing tired of their new existence which they had chosen more out of necessity. Thus, they're a species that did it "wrong." Of course, it's also possible that they had developed the same ideas as the Reapers and were lying all the time. (the ghost ship can't actually be a Reaper, or someone would have noticed the similarities with that weird geth ship that attacked the Citadel)


Next, Reapers and the geth. The geth want to cram all their programs into a single Dyson sphere. Every single Reaper is that goal, realized for a particular species. Then perhaps the Reapers desire to take this a step further and build something with enough processing power and bio-sludge to contain all their minds. This could also explain their interest in humans, not just as the choicest crop of this cycle, but as the solution to a problem they have been facing, namely it's been impossible for them so far to unite several Reapers into a single one. And remember, the Protheans couldn't be reaperized at all. Thus, the human genome could hold the key to bridging the gap between two Reapers. Plus, it's already been established that humans are special.

In that case, I would even posit that Reapers are religious. Just like the heretic geth think of the Reapers as gods and the pinnacle of machine evolution, the Reapers in turn would view their own superstructure the same way. Sovereign wasn't insulted at being worshipped per se, but took offense to being equated with perfection when there was still an even higher form of existence to be achieved. Stupid geth and their limited view of the universe.

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@Killjoy Cutter and 111987  :
We really don't have a clue about our origins when it comes down to it, there are records of civilizations in the real world with advanced knowledge  of math while we thought they were still banging a stick against a cave wall.
The same goes for our origin and evolution, perspectives change, methods change but we still haven't found a definite answer to all of this.
It could be that after the earliest civilization of humanity didn't even originate from earth and if I apply it to the game, it could be that a remnant of  humanity fled to earth( maybe only a dozen or something) and left our DNA imprint in some container, which later was found by the protheans whom at that time were looking for a way to beat the reapers, found out about the origins of them( meaning that we created them) and traced the remnants of humanity ( who were gone by then) to earth and used the data to recreate humanity, they realised however that we wouldn't be "ready"in such a short time and therefore left clues  lying around in the universe as to how to beat the reapers.

Not saying that this is the theory of course, but it would explain as to why the reapers are so interested in us, sure Shepard killed one of them, but why would they care?
They are well in the thousands if not miljons in number, have technology ( indoctrination LOL ) we could never even  dream off ( like fighting a nuclear missile with a stick) and they know it  I mean it took everything "we "had to take down one stupid reaper.
Unless there is something about humanity, maybe that old fear that our predeccesors nearly beat them, which makes them target humanity.

Again I am not sure that this is the theory ( there are countless possibilities, the only thing I do hope is that we won't do timetravel or something stupid like that, but I do know there is some unrevealed link between humans and the reapers( albeit through the Protheans)

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@Killjoy Cutter and 111987  :
We really don't have a clue about our origins when it comes down to it, there are records of civilizations in the real world with advanced knowledge  of math while we thought they were still banging a stick against a cave wall.
The same goes for our origin and evolution, perspectives change, methods change but we still haven't found a definite answer to all of this.
It could be that after the earliest civilization of humanity didn't even originate from earth and if I apply it to the game, it could be that a remnant of  humanity fled to earth( maybe only a dozen or something) and left our DNA imprint in some container, which later was found by the protheans whom at that time were looking for a way to beat the reapers, found out about the origins of them( meaning that we created them) and traced the remnants of humanity ( who were gone by then) to earth and used the data to recreate humanity, they realised however that we wouldn't be "ready"in such a short time and therefore left clues  lying around in the universe as to how to beat the reapers.

Not saying that this is the theory of course, but it would explain as to why the reapers are so interested in us, sure Shepard killed one of them, but why would they care?
They are well in the thousands if not miljons in number, have technology ( indoctrination LOL ) we could never even  dream off ( like fighting a nuclear missile with a stick) and they know it  I mean it took everything "we "had to take down one stupid reaper.
Unless there is something about humanity, maybe that old fear that our predeccesors nearly beat them, which makes them target humanity.

Again I am not sure that this is the theory ( there are countless possibilities, the only thing I do hope is that we won't do timetravel or something stupid like that, but I do know there is some unrevealed link between humans and the reapers( albeit through the Protheans)


Your argument, I'm sorry to say, makes no sense. The oldest known fossil of a human was Lucy, and was found to have lived 3.2 million years ago. Lucy was an Australopithecus and was nowhere near the physical and mental level of modern-day humans.

So that destroys an possibility of that.

If humans came to Earth as a spot of refuge, why wouldn't they retain at least some of their technology? Why would they suddenly devolve?

The Reapers have been interested in hundreds if not thousands of other species in the past. Each Reaper core is based on a species they found interesting or full of potential, like humanity.

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@Mastone

If the protheans were already at war with the Reapers, they couldn't have done much tracing because they were locked out of the relay network.

I offered another theory about why the Reapers are interested in humanity. As for Shepard's role, I see two possibilities:

1) He is supposed to become the dominant personality of the Human Reaper. In the same way, Harbinger's and Sovereign's personalities were based on similar heroes.

2) If you build your new Reaper, surely you'd want to filter out all those hereditary diseases and genetic defects you're bound to get when melting people down. Shepard, who accomplished so much, is perhaps thought to be genetically superior to his fellow humans. Thus, he becomes the template, the standard against which all acquired biomass is measured.

Let's not forget that, while Reaper technology is more advanced, they are far from omnipotent. They were able to genetically engineer the protheans into a new species, but making a Reaper from them turned out to be impossible for some unexplained reason. Again, this could explain their interest in humans. Splice in some human DNA et voilà! 100% compatibility!

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Mastone wrote...

@Killjoy Cutter and 111987  :
We really don't have a clue about our origins when it comes down to it, there are records of civilizations in the real world with advanced knowledge  of math while we thought they were still banging a stick against a cave wall.
The same goes for our origin and evolution, perspectives change, methods change but we still haven't found a definite answer to all of this.
It could be that after the earliest civilization of humanity didn't even originate from earth and if I apply it to the game, it could be that a remnant of  humanity fled to earth( maybe only a dozen or something) and left our DNA imprint in some container, which later was found by the protheans whom at that time were looking for a way to beat the reapers, found out about the origins of them( meaning that we created them) and traced the remnants of humanity ( who were gone by then) to earth and used the data to recreate humanity, they realised however that we wouldn't be "ready"in such a short time and therefore left clues  lying around in the universe as to how to beat the reapers.



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Your argument, I'm sorry to say, makes no sense. The oldest known fossil of a human was Lucy, and was found to have lived 3.2 million years ago. Lucy was an Australopithecus and was nowhere near the physical and mental level of modern-day humans.

So that destroys an possibility of that.

If humans came to Earth as a spot of refuge, why wouldn't they retain at least some of their technology? Why would they suddenly devolve?

The Reapers have been interested in hundreds if not thousands of other species in the past. Each Reaper core is based on a species they found interesting or full of potential, like humanity.


I am not saying that I had the most briljant theory out there, I know that the oldest fossil of a humanoid is not much more than a couple of miljon years old, but it doesn't destroy any theory, as I said the last remnants could have eventually fled to earth, maybe after having lived on various other planets and systems ( a nomadic existence)
Maybe only a dozen or so survived in the end and they had to leave advanced technology behind since that is the way the reapers find advanced  societies , through their tech level or maybe they were struggling to life each day they just didn't care about fixing stuff or write a manual for the starship  or refixing a coupling :P
Keep in mind that a dozen humans is a very fragile number and we all know how harsh life -here -can be ( scientist say that at some point in time there were around 60.000 humans in the world and found that number pretty fragile even call it near extinction), so it is viable that most of them died pretty soon( within 40 years) and that offspring just didn't make it( foodshortage , harsh environments etc etc), realizing this they left clues around the galaxy as to how to rebuild the human race ( DNA code) , like the protheans have done ( at least in ME1) for us.
The Protheans wo were desperate at the brink of their extinction found nothing except this blueprint to make a human, accepted that they wouldn't make it  and put all their hopes in us and engineerd our evolution hoping we'd be redy in time.

The alternative is that we as human beings are just so effing special ( better than Krogan, Asari, Salarians and Turians) that we outshine all other races and that the reapers just got to have us, because we are the pinnacle of organic evolution...yes I am being sarcastic.
That human reaper in ME2 was just bollocks and I really hope that the collector general just misread the blueprint as to how to make a reaper ( had the drawing upside down or something).

I just hope they have a better story than ME 2 up their sleeves.( ME 1 had a good story with a nice twist at the end)
And I really do hope we fight the reapers this time and not some indoctrinated crap 

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Mastone wrote...

@Killjoy Cutter and 111987  :
We really don't have a clue about our origins when it comes down to it, there are records of civilizations in the real world with advanced knowledge  of math while we thought they were still banging a stick against a cave wall.
The same goes for our origin and evolution, perspectives change, methods change but we still haven't found a definite answer to all of this.
It could be that after the earliest civilization of humanity didn't even originate from earth and if I apply it to the game, it could be that a remnant of  humanity fled to earth( maybe only a dozen or something) and left our DNA imprint in some container, which later was found by the protheans whom at that time were looking for a way to beat the reapers, found out about the origins of them( meaning that we created them) and traced the remnants of humanity ( who were gone by then) to earth and used the data to recreate humanity, they realised however that we wouldn't be "ready"in such a short time and therefore left clues  lying around in the universe as to how to beat the reapers.



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LOL  yes ( plays X files tune )LOL

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Your argument, I'm sorry to say, makes no sense. The oldest known fossil of a human was Lucy, and was found to have lived 3.2 million years ago. Lucy was an Australopithecus and was nowhere near the physical and mental level of modern-day humans.

So that destroys an possibility of that.

If humans came to Earth as a spot of refuge, why wouldn't they retain at least some of their technology? Why would they suddenly devolve?

The Reapers have been interested in hundreds if not thousands of other species in the past. Each Reaper core is based on a species they found interesting or full of potential, like humanity.



The alternative is that we as human beings are just so effing special ( better than Krogan, Asari, Salarians and Turians) that we outshine all other races and that the reapers just got to have us, because we are the pinnacle of organic evolution...yes I am being sarcastic.
That human reaper in ME2 was just bollocks and I really hope that the collector general just misread the blueprint as to how to make a reaper ( had the drawing upside down or something).

I just hope they have a better story than ME 2 up their sleeves.( ME 1 had a good story with a nice twist at the end)
And I really do hope we fight the reapers this time and not some indoctrinated crap 


Humans are no more special than the thousands of other species that became Reapers. The Krogan actually would have been selected were it not for the genophage (according to Harbinger).

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Mastone wrote...

The alternative is that we as human beings are just so effing special ( better than Krogan, Asari, Salarians and Turians) that we outshine all other races and that the reapers just got to have us, because we are the pinnacle of organic evolution...yes I am being sarcastic.


On one hand, you mock the idea that humans are the superior species of the galaxy, but on the other, you suggest that protheans recreated us as some kind of "Project Messiah." I find that somewhat contradictory. Besides, asari, turians, hanar etc. should have already been around at the same time. Assuming the part of your theory where humans created the Reapers is true, who would you, as the protheans, put your hopes in? A new species or the one that already got its *beep* kicked by the Reapers, is responsible for the whole problem in the first place and, if recreated by you, could possibly never find a single clue about its own heritage until it's already too late? And sure enough, none have been provided so far.

Also, shouldn't there have been some kind of warning on Mars or a VI like Vigil? "Hello! In the distant past, your species built immortal, sentient, malevolent, genocidal cuttlefish and now we'd like you to clean up your mess."

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Purge the heathens wrote...

Mastone wrote...

The alternative is that we as human beings are just so effing special ( better than Krogan, Asari, Salarians and Turians) that we outshine all other races and that the reapers just got to have us, because we are the pinnacle of organic evolution...yes I am being sarcastic.


On one hand, you mock the idea that humans are the superior species of the galaxy, but on the other, you suggest that protheans recreated us as some kind of "Project Messiah." I find that somewhat contradictory. Besides, asari, turians, hanar etc. should have already been around at the same time. Assuming the part of your theory where humans created the Reapers is true, who would you, as the protheans, put your hopes in? A new species or the one that already got its *beep* kicked by the Reapers, is responsible for the whole problem in the first place and, if recreated by you, could possibly never find a single clue about its own heritage until it's already too late? And sure enough, none have been provided so far.

Also, shouldn't there have been some kind of warning on Mars or a VI like Vigil? "Hello! In the distant past, your species built immortal, sentient, malevolent, genocidal cuttlefish and now we'd like you to clean up your mess."


I am not mocking and what I said was that it would be possible the protheans found out we created the reapers and also found out that there is something unique about our species which enable us to beat or push back the reapers, but not necesarily a superior race.
If my theory is correct then I think we would be kept low profile by the protheans and maybe they did leave more information but we just haven't found it yet.
It's also possible that the Protheans designed us to be the vanquishers of the reapers but since we needed to be hidden from the reapers, the protheans designed an evolutionpath for us, so that we can safely  reach our potential.

All things being said and done I am still convinced that there is a connection between Humanity-Reapers-Protheans

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Mastone wrote...

Purge the heathens wrote...

Mastone wrote...

The alternative is that we as human beings are just so effing special ( better than Krogan, Asari, Salarians and Turians) that we outshine all other races and that the reapers just got to have us, because we are the pinnacle of organic evolution...yes I am being sarcastic.


On one hand, you mock the idea that humans are the superior species of the galaxy, but on the other, you suggest that protheans recreated us as some kind of "Project Messiah." I find that somewhat contradictory. Besides, asari, turians, hanar etc. should have already been around at the same time. Assuming the part of your theory where humans created the Reapers is true, who would you, as the protheans, put your hopes in? A new species or the one that already got its *beep* kicked by the Reapers, is responsible for the whole problem in the first place and, if recreated by you, could possibly never find a single clue about its own heritage until it's already too late? And sure enough, none have been provided so far.

Also, shouldn't there have been some kind of warning on Mars or a VI like Vigil? "Hello! In the distant past, your species built immortal, sentient, malevolent, genocidal cuttlefish and now we'd like you to clean up your mess."



All things being said and done I am still convinced that there is a connection between Humanity-Reapers-Protheans


Well I think that's pretty obvious by now ;)

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@Mastone

If the protheans were already at war with the Reapers, they couldn't have done much tracing because they were locked out of the relay network.

I offered another theory about why the Reapers are interested in humanity. As for Shepard's role, I see two possibilities:

1) He is supposed to become the dominant personality of the Human Reaper. In the same way, Harbinger's and Sovereign's personalities were based on similar heroes.

2) If you build your new Reaper, surely you'd want to filter out all those hereditary diseases and genetic defects you're bound to get when melting people down. Shepard, who accomplished so much, is perhaps thought to be genetically superior to his fellow humans. Thus, he becomes the template, the standard against which all acquired biomass is measured.

Let's not forget that, while Reaper technology is more advanced, they are far from omnipotent. They were able to genetically engineer the protheans into a new species, but making a Reaper from them turned out to be impossible for some unexplained reason. Again, this could explain their interest in humans. Splice in some human DNA et voilà! 100% compatibility!


The protheans were a highly advanced race and must have been widespread over the galaxy , I do not remember all the events from ME1 properly but  I seem to remember that the protheans were putting up a fight it could be they found another way to travel( a ship like the normandy but a tad better, not needing mass relays) and maybe even found a way to the reapers homesystem/world, but for some reason couldn't make it ( maybe they didn't have a reaper iff  ;) )
Point 1 is a good one, but what I am wondering is why the collectors didn't reel shepard in when they blew up the first normandy at the start of ME2 ( not that ME2 is a flagship of great storytelling and/or consistency).

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JimiShep wrote...

Mastone wrote...

Purge the heathens wrote...

Mastone wrote...

The alternative is that we as human beings are just so effing special ( better than Krogan, Asari, Salarians and Turians) that we outshine all other races and that the reapers just got to have us, because we are the pinnacle of organic evolution...yes I am being sarcastic.


On one hand, you mock the idea that humans are the superior species of the galaxy, but on the other, you suggest that protheans recreated us as some kind of "Project Messiah." I find that somewhat contradictory. Besides, asari, turians, hanar etc. should have already been around at the same time. Assuming the part of your theory where humans created the Reapers is true, who would you, as the protheans, put your hopes in? A new species or the one that already got its *beep* kicked by the Reapers, is responsible for the whole problem in the first place and, if recreated by you, could possibly never find a single clue about its own heritage until it's already too late? And sure enough, none have been provided so far.

Also, shouldn't there have been some kind of warning on Mars or a VI like Vigil? "Hello! In the distant past, your species built immortal, sentient, malevolent, genocidal cuttlefish and now we'd like you to clean up your mess."



All things being said and done I am still convinced that there is a connection between Humanity-Reapers-Protheans


Well I think that's pretty obvious by now ;)

glad you agree :D

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No matter what kind of theory BIOWARE come up with, none will satisfy

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The problem with your theory is that it doesn't really draw on any hints/facts in the series. It's all just wild speculation. Nothing wrong with that, but other theories have at least had some kind of rationale.

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@mastone

The problem with your theory is that it doesn't really draw on any hints/facts in the series. It's all just wild speculation. Nothing wrong with that, but other theories have at least had some kind of rationale.


ALL of this is wild speculation, we know next to nothing about the Reapers, we get a few snipits of information occasionally, but nothing is what I would call concrete.  It's all theory crafting and none of it is to be taken literally.

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@mastone

The problem with your theory is that it doesn't really draw on any hints/facts in the series. It's all just wild speculation. Nothing wrong with that, but other theories have at least had some kind of rationale.


ALL of this is wild speculation, we know next to nothing about the Reapers, we get a few snipits of information occasionally, but nothing is what I would call concrete.  It's all theory crafting and none of it is to be taken literally.


My point is that speculation with some evidence>speculation with no evidence. But I don't want to offend anyone. I've always found that with my own theories, when they are challenged, they become more developed and well-supported.

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ALL of this is wild speculation, we know next to nothing about the Reapers, we get a few snipits of information occasionally, but nothing is what I would call concrete.  It's all theory crafting and none of it is to be taken literally.


Agreed; with this one caveat - a good mystery writer foreshadows his ending, in one way or the other, so that when it occurs, the audience finds it satisfactory because it was consistent with previous hints. That way, when you look back over the whole story, you go, "Ah ha! - That's what he was getting at..." A great example is Bruce Willis' character in "Sixth Sense."

Someone could argue, "But Mass Effect is science fiction, not a mystery" to which I would reply, "Yes, but the writers made it a mystery by not revealing their origins from the beginning." We were always supposed to speculate about who the Reapers were, what motivated them, as well as their origins. The final game promises to answer all the questions and tie things up. So, yes, it is a mystery and therefore can be expected to follow mystery conventions.

We have certainly been given enough "hints" thus far about the Reapers; we know that they are legion, that they have no beginning or end, that our destruction is our salvation, that they are somehow a blend of both organic and cybernetic and that they have been causing galatic wide exterminations for at least 37 (?) million years in 50,000 year cycles, Furthermore, that Baby Arnold Terminatorand appears to be the most recent of a recurring attempt to "lift" some species to "Reaper-hood."

When a writer creates some ending that was not properly foreshadowed, then we get a frustrating and unsatisfying conclusion - as well as if the foreshadowing is too obvious or the resolution is one that has been overused and therefore considered "trite" or "cliche."

So at least in my mind, the explanation for their origin has to meet all those criteria - not trite or cliche, fully foreshadowed in the various tidbits of information currently given and consistent with those hints.

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Theories are tested. Nothing in this thread is tested. What we're doing here is more related to arm waving and total speculation.

[armwaving] The surviving Prothean scientists at an isolated outpost on Mars did genetic manipulation and created Cro-Magnon man about 50,000 yrs ago. They were going through the galaxy doing this to the Asari, Turian. Salarian, etc. I think the Prothean tie in to all the space faring species is going to be evident. After the Prothean scientists died so went their species. There wasn't anything going on to attract the Reapers since the only documentation was on Ilos, but that got degraded to where it was unreadable. They set these stations up during the Reaper invasion hoping to give these other races a leg up. [/armwaving]

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Theories are tested. Nothing in this thread is tested. What we're doing here is more related to arm waving and total speculation.


If I may, theories are testable - not tested: a theory is a possible explanation that can be proved or disproved by further examination/observation/tests.

And since all the "speculations" here will eventually either be proved or disproved in the final revelation of Mass Effect 3, therefore they qualify as "theories."

And no, I am not intentionally responding just to bump this thread and keep it on the first page in the hopes of encouraging more WAG's.

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The reason you don't find fossils of advanced humans was because they all took the Stargate to the Pegasus galaxy...

That was meant as a joke. I don't want them to go that way.

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The Borg meets the Lovecraftian Shadows.

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Theories are tested. Nothing in this thread is tested. What we're doing here is more related to arm waving and total speculation.

[armwaving] The surviving Prothean scientists at an isolated outpost on Mars did genetic manipulation and created Cro-Magnon man about 50,000 yrs ago. They were going through the galaxy doing this to the Asari, Turian. Salarian, etc. I think the Prothean tie in to all the space faring species is going to be evident. After the Prothean scientists died so went their species. There wasn't anything going on to attract the Reapers since the only documentation was on Ilos, but that got degraded to where it was unreadable. They set these stations up during the Reaper invasion hoping to give these other races a leg up. [/armwaving]


From the side quest in ME1 we know they studied cro-magnon man, but I highly doubt they created us or did any genetic manipulation on us, took samples probably.   Besides to get from the Citadel to Mars they woudl have had to use a mass relay which are all deactivated when the reapers leave the system, plus they had no ship.  The protheans probably stuydied us before they were wiped out.