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Well if they studied us.. then we can possibly add tech advances too. The advance tech found from the multiple sites found on mars took us outside our Sol system. FCW etc...

It's safe to say that the Protheans had an interest in early Human Beings. Plus there is going to be another big discovery on Mars right when the Reapers invade. Your first stop is probably going to be Mars. Hence that Theory is not that far off!

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111987 wrote...

Humans are no more special than the thousands of other species that became Reapers. The Krogan actually would have been selected were it not for the genophage (according to Harbinger).


You dont know that for a fact yet. We know that humans are interesting to the reapers, we just dont know how far interested they are in us yet or why.

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Anyone have an idea on how long the Reapers were undected before they reached Earth.It looks like Earth had no heads up about them at all.

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Back on topic please.

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annihilator27 wrote...

Anyone have an idea on how long the Reapers were undected before they reached Earth.It looks like Earth had no heads up about them at all.


It's mere minutes at FTL speeds from the Charon relay to Earth.

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 I have to ask, but I'm curious where people keep getting this diea that the reapers are AI's from. In ME1 the Geth revered them for being machine life like them, but ME2 seems to have pretty much cleared up what Sovereign meant by "we are each a nation" and the beacon imagery of flesh being woven with wiring and metal - the reapers are not AI's, but constructs made of both metal and the biomass of millions of individuals, and carry with them their collective intelligence.



Based on that it seems likely the reapers are the product of an ancient race's singularity, a post-human (well, post-xeno) collective. The real question is why they want to offer the same technological "transcendance" to other species, ad why they force that-or-death upon all the races of the galaxy.


Anacronian Stryx wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

Anyone have an idea on how long the Reapers were undected before they reached Earth.It looks like Earth had no heads up about them at all.


It's mere minutes at FTL speeds from the Charon relay to Earth.


Don't forget the sensor lag. You cannot detect something moving towards you at transluminal speeds, because the light from it's transit reaches you AFTER it has arrived ;p

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RyuujinZERO wrote...

 I have to ask, but I'm curious where people keep getting this diea that the reapers are AI's from. In ME1 the Geth revered them for being machine life like them, but ME2 seems to have pretty much cleared up what Sovereign meant by "we are each a nation" and the beacon imagery of flesh being woven with wiring and metal - the reapers are not AI's, but constructs made of both metal and the biomass of millions of individuals, and carry with them their collective intelligence.



Based on that it seems likely the reapers are the product of an ancient race's singularity, a post-human (well, post-xeno) collective. The real question is why they want to offer the same technological "transcendance" to other species, ad why they force that-or-death upon all the races of the galaxy.


Talk to Legion; he says the Geth talked to the 'programs' inside Nazara. He also compared them to the Geth, who are AI's.

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111987 wrote...

RyuujinZERO wrote...

 I have to ask, but I'm curious where people keep getting this diea that the reapers are AI's from. In ME1 the Geth revered them for being machine life like them, but ME2 seems to have pretty much cleared up what Sovereign meant by "we are each a nation" and the beacon imagery of flesh being woven with wiring and metal - the reapers are not AI's, but constructs made of both metal and the biomass of millions of individuals, and carry with them their collective intelligence.



Based on that it seems likely the reapers are the product of an ancient race's singularity, a post-human (well, post-xeno) collective. The real question is why they want to offer the same technological "transcendance" to other species, ad why they force that-or-death upon all the races of the galaxy.


Talk to Legion; he says the Geth talked to the 'programs' inside Nazara. He also compared them to the Geth, who are AI's.





That was Legion's interpretation, but from everythign we have garnered it sounds more like they are entities inside all reapers working towards a common purpose.  We do knwo they are a hybrid of organic and mechanical, so they are a biomechanoid species, living machines.

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It's pretty clear from what Sovereign and Legion tell us, that each Reaper is in some way a collective entity.

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annihilator27 wrote...

Anyone have an idea on how long the Reapers were undected before they reached Earth.It looks like Earth had no heads up about them at all.

I thought most of humanities fleet was gathered at earth? That would suggest they were preparing for something since shouldn't it normally be stationed at arcturus station? 

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DCarter wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

Anyone have an idea on how long the Reapers were undected before they reached Earth.It looks like Earth had no heads up about them at all.

I thought most of humanities fleet was gathered at earth? That would suggest they were preparing for something since shouldn't it normally be stationed at arcturus station? 


If the Alliance fleet is indeed amassed ar5ound earth, Ithink it woudl be for the protection of both Shep and earth from the Batarians.  However we don't really know either way.  If you coudl find soem proof that the Alliance Fleet is amassing aroudne arth it would help put it all in perspective.

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I've seen a gameplay video for ME3 that appears to show Shep firing at a Reaper with a rapid-fire mass accelerator weapon on the back of a truck while someone drives it... in other words, it might be possible to gun down Reapers with machine guns on trucks... *sigh*

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I've seen a gameplay video for ME3 that appears to show Shep firing at a Reaper with a rapid-fire mass accelerator weapon on the back of a truck while someone drives it... in other words, it might be possible to gun down Reapers with machine guns on trucks... *sigh*



And this has what do do with Reaper origins?

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Valdrane78 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I've seen a gameplay video for ME3 that appears to show Shep firing at a Reaper with a rapid-fire mass accelerator weapon on the back of a truck while someone drives it... in other words, it might be possible to gun down Reapers with machine guns on trucks... *sigh*



And this has what do do with Reaper origins?


Oooo, forum cop.  Cool.

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I've seen a gameplay video for ME3 that appears to show Shep firing at a Reaper with a rapid-fire mass accelerator weapon on the back of a truck while someone drives it... in other words, it might be possible to gun down Reapers with machine guns on trucks... *sigh*


You should have paid closer attention: it wasn't a truck, it was a geth craft.  Also, shooting the Reaper didn't do jack.  And neither did the orbital strike delivered shortly thereafter, other than knocking it over for about 15 seconds or so.

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DCarter wrote...

I thought most of humanities fleet was gathered at earth?


This is based on that live action trailer, which was essentially some quasi-official cosplay.  I don't why people are treating it as if it were a part of the story.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I've seen a gameplay video for ME3 that appears to show Shep firing at a Reaper with a rapid-fire mass accelerator weapon on the back of a truck while someone drives it... in other words, it might be possible to gun down Reapers with machine guns on trucks... *sigh*


You should have paid closer attention: it wasn't a truck, it was a geth craft.  Also, shooting the Reaper didn't do jack.  And neither did the orbital strike delivered shortly thereafter, other than knocking it over for about 15 seconds or so.



Different video, the one I saw was a short clip of Shep manning the gun and firing on the Reaper, nothing else. 

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didymos1120 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I've seen a gameplay video for ME3 that appears to show Shep firing at a Reaper with a rapid-fire mass accelerator weapon on the back of a truck while someone drives it... in other words, it might be possible to gun down Reapers with machine guns on trucks... *sigh*


You should have paid closer attention: it wasn't a truck, it was a geth craft.  Also, shooting the Reaper didn't do jack.  And neither did the orbital strike delivered shortly thereafter, other than knocking it over for about 15 seconds or so.


Whenever i see that vid i simply don't get the feeling that that reaper is 5-600 meters.. more like 100 meters at best.. must be the perspective or something.

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Watching the longer video, it almost looks like its a "juvenille" Reaper made from Geth!

And that certainly would raise some interesting questions.

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The Reapers weren't made by Humans. This information is unavailable currectly. What we do know is that they show interest in Shepherd. Probably because of the fact that he destroyed Sovereign, one of them.

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Watching the longer video, it almost looks like its a "juvenille" Reaper made from Geth!

And that certainly would raise some interesting questions.


This, considering that it wouldn't exactly be a reaper, since reapers are biomechanoid creatures and a Geth reaper would be all mechanical.  It did however look Geth, which make sme believe that the Reapers are becoming somewhat desperate.  However it still doesn't answer the question of whothey are, just what they are.  Which is somethign I believe alot of people want to know.  Knowledge is power, and knowledge of their origins coudl very well tip the balance of power out of their "hands!"

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TheHarbingerOfYourPerfection wrote...

The Reapers weren't made by Humans. This information is unavailable currectly. What we do know is that they show interest in Shepherd. Probably because of the fact that he destroyed Sovereign, one of them.


How do you know for sure that humanity ( albeit an older civilization) didn't create (the first generation of ) the reapers, you are saying yourself that the information is not available as of yet, so there's no definite answer to that question ;).

I personally don't think the reapers are very interested in any individual ( of any race) they are just annoyed that shepard keeps trying to block them from entering "known"space and ordered the collectors to remove the nuisance
, otherwise they would have "collected"us instead of blowing us to bits.

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Mastone wrote...

How do you know for sure that humanity ( albeit an older civilization) didn't create (the first generation of ) the reapers, you are saying yourself that the information is not available as of yet, so there's no definite answer to that question ;).


Um, might have something to do with the fact that humans didn't exist 37 million years ago, much less however much earlier than that it was when the first Reapers rolled off the production line.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Mastone wrote...

How do you know for sure that humanity ( albeit an older civilization) didn't create (the first generation of ) the reapers, you are saying yourself that the information is not available as of yet, so there's no definite answer to that question ;).

Um, might have something to do with the fact that humans didn't exist 37 million years ago, much less however much earlier than that it was when the first Reapers rolled off the production line.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Mastone wrote...

How do you know for sure that humanity ( albeit an older civilization) didn't create (the first generation of ) the reapers, you are saying yourself that the information is not available as of yet, so there's no definite answer to that question ;).


Um, might have something to do with the fact that humans didn't exist 37 million years ago, much less however much earlier than that it was when the first Reapers rolled off the production line.


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