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[Danny Boy 7]

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny, agree there's some very tantalizing hints in Silent Grove. My fave part is when she talks about dragons existing before the Veil, which suggests to me a point when the Fade and the real world were one. Is that the creation of Thedas? Since Thedas is everything they know, and is post-Veil, I guess so, right?

I love the notion of seeing Cullen encounter Flemeth. Sorta like Alistair's interactions with Morrigan, but with a lot more call of duty for Cullen. LOL that would be hilarious if he just plain wouldn't believe she's the Flemeth of legend and just wants to drag her back to the Circle like any garden-variety apostate. Hmm... A sense a plot bunny brewing...

"I'm sorry about your friend," Flemeth said with no real sense of regret. "Couldn't have him spoiling our fun, now, could we? Particularly since I believe you'd prefer him alive."

"Will he be okay?" PC asked. She watched Cullen snoring peacefully where he had fallen, still holding his sword.

"Oh yes. He will wake up in an hour or two with nothing worse than a headache and an intense craving for chocolate. Now... Where were we?"

It makes me curious as to what the Veil actually is. We know that it seperates the Fade and the "real" world but where did it come from? It also weakens when there is a lot of death but we never hear of how it heals itself if at all. Also who is the "Queen" of Dragons? I mean I imagine it's Flemeth but maybe it's one of the remaining old gods. It could be that the demon or whatever possesed the original Flemeth had knowledge of the time before the Veil and has thus been trying to steer the world in that direction ever since.

[littlenikki]

@Danny Well, it seems that very few mages have the power to heal, or at least strengthen the tears in the veil (think Avernus in Warden's Keep) but I don't think they can ever be fully repaired on their own. I would think, going along with the Chantry's version of how the Fade exists and all, that the veil was just created by The Maker to keep his favorite children (mortals) seperated from his first children. If they are indeed his favorite, reason would dictate that he'd want to keep them unspoiled and unaffected by his "rough drafts" that the spirits sort of seem like. It also kept the Maker's Golden City safe from mortal sin.

Long story short, the Maker did it.

[R2s Muse]

I think this is what makes that comment so delicious! Indeed, the Chantry maintains that the Veil was created to create a separate world for his second children, humanity. So, before the Veil, there were supposedly only spirits/demons, the First Children. Interestingly, the Canticle of Silence, which has been struck from the official Chant, suggests that the Old Gods could be among the Maker's First Children as well. If the Old Gods are just demons, that could go a long way toward explaining why the Maker was so freakin' pissed that men started to worship them as gods.

I am imagining that the gobbledy ****** and hints about the dragons being the blood of the world and existing before the Veil will somehow relate back to the Old Gods and the "true" nature of these dragons. So, I'm pretty excited to see someone more answers from the comics. How does Flemeth figure in...? Dunno. My headcanon is that she was the first successful experiment of Old God soul entering a human (e.g. the original OGB). Somehow, I'll bet she's one of these old original dragons.

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

LMVAO! Look at the comment below it:

MarkDarrah: http://twitter.com/B...8503296/photo/1

LOL! That is hilarious!!

So, I have some newb info to share from some unofficial sources (my little brothers). Apparently the frostbite 2 engine was originally created with destructible environments in mind. It's kind of specialized toward "crumbling buildings/explosions/end of the world type stuff."

... intruiging possibilities for DAIII, no?

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 12 novembre 2012 - 03:58 .

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

LMVAO! Look at the comment below it:

MarkDarrah: http://twitter.com/B...8503296/photo/1

LOL! That is hilarious!!

So, I have some newb info to share from some unofficial sources (my little brothers). Apparently the frostbite 2 engine was originally created with destructible environments in mind. It's kind of specialized toward "crumbling buildings/explosions/end of the world type stuff."

... intruiging possibilities for DAIII, no?

I've heard about that. So, perhaps if we see Orlais blow up, then pieces will fall off when we re-visit and then get worse if we get into a fight. So to use the survey leak as an example, there's a building that was half blown apart in the "magical blast", later you come back and it's still half standing, you get into a fight and whilst you or the enemy uses magic more of the building falls apart. After the battle you notice that you've left scorch makes on the ground, which stays for the rest of the game.

Modifié par LolaLei, 12 novembre 2012 - 06:11 .

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

LMVAO! Look at the comment below it:

MarkDarrah: http://twitter.com/B...8503296/photo/1

LOL! That is hilarious!!

So, I have some newb info to share from some unofficial sources (my little brothers). Apparently the frostbite 2 engine was originally created with destructible environments in mind. It's kind of specialized toward "crumbling buildings/explosions/end of the world type stuff."

... intruiging possibilities for DAIII, no?

I've heard about that. So, perhaps if we see Orlais blow up, then pieces will fall off when we re-visit and then get worse if we get into a fight. So to use the survey leak as an example, there's a building that was half blown apart in the "magical blast", later you come back and it's still half standing, you get into a fight and whilst you or the enemy uses magic more of the building falls apart. After the battle you notice that you've left scorch makes on the group, which stays for the rest of the game.

That would be pretty sweet. I like the idea of having additional consequences from the environment. Maybe it could even add additional avenues for accomplishing a task. Like, post-blast the local prison was also damaged, so you can spring Cullen from it by (a) seducing a guard and getting the key; ( somehow picking/burning the lock; or © bust through the unstable wall. heh heh.

[LolaLei]

Oh! Apparently the next Mass Effect will be powered by Frostbite 2 engine as well. I can imagine the whole destructible environment thing would be perfect for a sci-fi game like ME.

http://www.g4tv.com/...e-new-gameplay/

Modifié par LolaLei, 12 novembre 2012 - 06:15 .

[R2s Muse]

How about some nekkid Cullen? New sketch by yumikoyuki.

Linked instead of posted, just in case...

http://yumikoyuki.de...ullen-337090544

[littlenikki]

LolaLei wrote...

Oh! Apparently the next Mass Effect will be powered by Frostbite 2 engine as well. I can imagine the whole destructible environment thing would be perfect for a sci-fi game like ME.

http://www.g4tv.com/...e-new-gameplay/

I'm still in shock that they're making another game. Good shock, for sure, but yea...didn't think they were taking it past the trilogy.

[littlenikki]

R2s Muse wrote...

How about some nekkid Cullen? New sketch by yumikoyuki.

Linked instead of posted, just in case...

http://yumikoyuki.de...ullen-337090544

Ooh yes please!

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

How about some nekkid Cullen? New sketch by yumikoyuki.

Linked instead of posted, just in case...

http://yumikoyuki.de...ullen-337090544

Don't mind if I do! 

[LolaLei]

littlenikki wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Oh! Apparently the next Mass Effect will be powered by Frostbite 2 engine as well. I can imagine the whole destructible environment thing would be perfect for a sci-fi game like ME.

http://www.g4tv.com/...e-new-gameplay/

I'm still in shock that they're making another game. Good shock, for sure, but yea...didn't think they were taking it past the trilogy.

I wonder if it'll take place before Shepard's story or after? If it's after then they'll have to have at least one set up where everyone is glowing green if you picked Synthesis. That'll probably be easier to accomplish on next gen consoles I would presume. 

I dunno if I'll play it or not, depends on the story and if they're gonna give us a ****** poor ending again lol.

[PorcelynDoll]

Is anyone willing to make me a precious Cullen banner? I want it to say "Give me Cullen or Give me Death" and Cullen has hater shades on.

[littlenikki]

LolaLei wrote...

littlenikki wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Oh! Apparently the next Mass Effect will be powered by Frostbite 2 engine as well. I can imagine the whole destructible environment thing would be perfect for a sci-fi game like ME.

http://www.g4tv.com/...e-new-gameplay/

I'm still in shock that they're making another game. Good shock, for sure, but yea...didn't think they were taking it past the trilogy.

I wonder if it'll take place before Shepard's story or after? If it's after then they'll have to have at least one set up where everyone is glowing green if you picked Synthesis. That'll probably be easier to accomplish on next gen consoles I would presume. 

I dunno if I'll play it or not, depends on the story and if they're gonna give us a ****** poor ending again lol.

I was thinking about this too. I imagine it must have to have some sort of designated path, if it's going to be a seperate series from Shepard's story. I wonder if they will even impliment our choices in the previous games, or just build off an entire new plot and setting. I'm getting off topic though, gotta steer this ship back to Cullen Island!

Sooo....I'm feeling a bit on the romantic side today. Been trying to think of a fitting love scene for him that hasn't been discussed before. I mean, the romance scenes always seem to take place in the same area for every LI (Hawke's estate, Camp) It'd be cool if the locations varied depending on each companion. Plus, with our PC and co running all across Thedas as has been hinted at, I can't imagine we're going to be having one set campground or home base to go to.

Modifié par littlenikki, 12 novembre 2012 - 07:44 .

[R2s Muse]

littlenikki wrote...

Sooo....I'm feeling a bit on the romantic side today. Been trying to think of a fitting love scene for him that hasn't been discussed before. I mean, the romance scenes always seem to take place in the same area for every LI (Hawke's estate, Camp) It'd be cool if the locations varied depending on each companion. Plus, with our PC and co running all across Thedas as has been hinted at, I can't imagine we're going to be having one set campground or home base to go to.

Agree that I hope we have multiple "camp" settings in the next game. I would love to see your location depend on the LI. LMVAO Can you imagine having sex with Fenris amongst his rotting corpses, though? Or in Anders's dingy clinic?  Sadly... I think my answer is... yes. LOL   Like, you should have been able to shag Isabela at the Hanged Man's bar or in her little room in the back. Of course, I feel now like I've actually seen all those scenarios from all the fanfic I've read.

For Cullen... guess it depends on where we're going and where we'd be when we finally close the deal. Ha - I sorta like the idea of Cullen out in nature, perhaps being persnickety about the dirt and such.

"You mean... just here, on the bank of the pond? In the... mud??"

"Let me assure you, templar... you won't even notice the mud..."

[R2s Muse]

PorcelynDoll wrote...

Is anyone willing to make me a precious Cullen banner? I want it to say "Give me Cullen or Give me Death" and Cullen has hater shades on.

That would be an awesome banner! I could take a crack, unless someone more talented, like littlenikki was up for it.

When you say hater shades, do you mean sorta like in this gif??

[LolaLei]

littlenikki wrote...

I was thinking about this too. I imagine it must have to have some sort of designated path, if it's going to be a seperate series from Shepard's story. I wonder if they will even impliment our choices in the previous games, or just build off an entire new plot and setting. I'm getting off topic though, gotta steer this ship back to Cullen Island!

Sooo....I'm feeling a bit on the romantic side today. Been trying to think of a fitting love scene for him that hasn't been discussed before. I mean, the romance scenes always seem to take place in the same area for every LI (Hawke's estate, Camp) It'd be cool if the locations varied depending on each companion. Plus, with our PC and co running all across Thedas as has been hinted at, I can't imagine we're going to be having one set campground or home base to go to.

I think it would be nice if the LI's love scene triggered depending on the characters personality. For example, some one like Isbela who is a bit of a go'er would be more inclined to jump into bed with the protagonist sooner than someone like Alistair, who was a virgin and needed to be sure before he sexed you up. So maybe in DA3 it wouldf be cool if some characters love scene occured in Act 1/fairly early on and others would wait until later on in the game.

That way, the love scenes could take place in different environments/areas because we'll be travelling around so much and (hopefully) camping/staying in different places in Thedas. Ideally, their love scene environment would feel companion specific, for example, someone like Merrill who seemed very innocent would've had her love scene occur inside, maybe in the protagonists bedroom where she'd feel more safe comfortable, but someone like Zevran would be happy to do it outside, possibly at the risk of getting caught in the act lol.

In regards to Cullen, I'm not entirely sure what his love scene would be like. Of course, I've had loads of ideas, but I don't think all of them would be compatible with his character (like shagging under a statue of Andraste in the Chantry), I guess it just depends on what he'll be like as a companion. If my original theory was correct about Tonia writing his companion dialogue (if he is even a LI) then it sounds like he'll be a gentleman, so the love scene would be less rampant and more romantic, I guess lol.

... (I still think it should happen in the Chantry under a statue of Andraste though!) 

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

In regards to Cullen, I'm not entirely sure what his love scene would be like. Of course, I've had loads of ideas, but I don't think all of them would be compatible with his character (like shagging under a statue of Andraste in the Chantry), I guess it just depends on what he'll be like as a companion. If my original theory was correct about Tonia writing his companion dialogue (if he is even a LI) then it sounds like he'll be a gentleman, so the love scene would be less rampant and more romantic, I guess lol.

... (I still think it should happen in the Chantry under a statue of Andraste though!) 

LOL I could think of some cute, still romantic scenarios where they are sheltered at a chantry, maybe even the Grand Cathedral, staying in the spare little cells for the initiates and it happens there. Maybe not out in plain sight at Andraste's toes (which would be AWESOME!), but in your room, and he has a freak out moment about his duty to Andraste and all that since he's in the Maker's house. Then you could... reassure him.

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

In regards to Cullen, I'm not entirely sure what his love scene would be like. Of course, I've had loads of ideas, but I don't think all of them would be compatible with his character (like shagging under a statue of Andraste in the Chantry), I guess it just depends on what he'll be like as a companion. If my original theory was correct about Tonia writing his companion dialogue (if he is even a LI) then it sounds like he'll be a gentleman, so the love scene would be less rampant and more romantic, I guess lol.

... (I still think it should happen in the Chantry under a statue of Andraste though!) 

LOL I could think of some cute, still romantic scenarios where they are sheltered at a chantry, maybe even the Grand Cathedral, staying in the spare little cells for the initiates and it happens there. Maybe not out in plain sight at Andraste's toes (which would be AWESOME!), but in your room, and he has a freak out moment about his duty to Andraste and all that since he's in the Maker's house. Then you could... reassure him.

What if we discover that Andraste was a Mage? Maybe he'd be more inclined to then! LOL!

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

In regards to Cullen, I'm not entirely sure what his love scene would be like. Of course, I've had loads of ideas, but I don't think all of them would be compatible with his character (like shagging under a statue of Andraste in the Chantry), I guess it just depends on what he'll be like as a companion. If my original theory was correct about Tonia writing his companion dialogue (if he is even a LI) then it sounds like he'll be a gentleman, so the love scene would be less rampant and more romantic, I guess lol.

... (I still think it should happen in the Chantry under a statue of Andraste though!) 

LOL I could think of some cute, still romantic scenarios where they are sheltered at a chantry, maybe even the Grand Cathedral, staying in the spare little cells for the initiates and it happens there. Maybe not out in plain sight at Andraste's toes (which would be AWESOME!), but in your room, and he has a freak out moment about his duty to Andraste and all that since he's in the Maker's house. Then you could... reassure him.

What if we discover that Andraste was a Mage? Maybe he'd be more inclined to then! LOL!

Oh man, I would love that. Talk about "questioning beliefs." That could be a fun drama point, too. He's totally upset about it, feeling like the rug's been pulled out from underneath him. The only thing he knows that's true and that he can believe in is you, the PC. ("D'aawwww!"). You shag. Next morning, big regrets... he regrets his flagging faith, regrets you, avoids you, yada yada. Eventually you help him realize that no matter what Andraste was, it's his faith in the Maker that's important, believe in yourself, do the right thing,  yada yada. He becomes a better, more confident man ("fixed!" ) You and he ride off into the sunset.

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

In regards to Cullen, I'm not entirely sure what his love scene would be like. Of course, I've had loads of ideas, but I don't think all of them would be compatible with his character (like shagging under a statue of Andraste in the Chantry), I guess it just depends on what he'll be like as a companion. If my original theory was correct about Tonia writing his companion dialogue (if he is even a LI) then it sounds like he'll be a gentleman, so the love scene would be less rampant and more romantic, I guess lol.

... (I still think it should happen in the Chantry under a statue of Andraste though!) 

LOL I could think of some cute, still romantic scenarios where they are sheltered at a chantry, maybe even the Grand Cathedral, staying in the spare little cells for the initiates and it happens there. Maybe not out in plain sight at Andraste's toes (which would be AWESOME!), but in your room, and he has a freak out moment about his duty to Andraste and all that since he's in the Maker's house. Then you could... reassure him.

What if we discover that Andraste was a Mage? Maybe he'd be more inclined to then! LOL!

Oh man, I would love that. Talk about "questioning beliefs." That could be a fun drama point, too. He's totally upset about it, feeling like the rug's been pulled out from underneath him. The only thing he knows that's true and that he can believe in is you, the PC. ("D'aawwww!"). You shag. Next morning, big regrets... he regrets his flagging faith, regrets you, avoids you, yada yada. Eventually you help him realize that no matter what Andraste was, it's his faith in the Maker that's important, believe in yourself, do the right thing,  yada yada. He becomes a better, more confident man ("fixed!" ) You and he ride off into the sunset.

What I wonder is, can Cullen be a gentleman, but still suffer/experience from "angst" like DG suggested?

[LolaLei]

Something else that concerns me, that DG once said in an interview:

"I could have plans right now and "Yeah, totally, we'd have him in the party and everything!" and then next week that would change, so I'm always leery of making promises. I like Cullen. I joke about him in some ways but I like the arc he represents. There are some minor characters, like Sandal for instance, I like the idea of having them be a unifying factor. Like R2D2 and C-3PO manage to make their way into every sort of plot. Every major story has the Maker's witnesses, who witness the big chances that are occurring, a bit of connecting tissue between the games. And there are things I think can be done with Cullen. I like the idea that he has confronted probably the worst that the mages have, he's encountered the worst of what mages can do. Yet he hasn't done what some Templars have done, like Meredith, or--I keep wanting to call him Knight Divine--Lord Seeker Lambert in the novel, how they have reacted is to become very anti-mage and very judgemental and to paint all the mages in the same basic plot, a few bad apples spoils the bunch. Cullen to me represents another side of Templars which is a side that we need to keep active."

Do you suppose he's suggesting that he'd be more inclined to keep him as a minor character like Sandal and Bohdan? It sounded like it to me.

Modifié par LolaLei, 12 novembre 2012 - 08:44 .

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Something else that concerns me, that DG once said in an interview:

"I could have plans right now and "Yeah, totally, we'd have him in the party and everything!" and then next week that would change, so I'm always leery of making promises. I like Cullen. I joke about him in some ways but I like the arc he represents. There are some minor characters, like Sandal for instance, I like the idea of having them be a unifying factor. Like R2D2 and C-3PO manage to make their way into every sort of plot. Every major story has the Maker's witnesses, who witness the big chances that are occurring, a bit of connecting tissue between the games. And there are things I think can be done with Cullen. I like the idea that he has confronted probably the worst that the mages have, he's encountered the worst of what mages can do. Yet he hasn't done what some Templars have done, like Meredith, or--I keep wanting to call him Knight Divine--Lord Seeker Lambert in the novel, how they have reacted is to become very anti-mage and very judgemental and to paint all the mages in the same basic plot, a few bad apples spoils the bunch. Cullen to me represents another side of Templars which is a side that we need to keep active."

Do you suppose he's suggesting that he'd be more inclined to keep him as a minor character like Sandal and Bohdan? It sounded like it to me.

Hmm, could be. I don't read it that way, myself. He starts out talking about the possibility of having him in the party and that it could go either way for him. I think his parallel with Bodahn and Sandahl is just that Cullen could also be part of a unifying arc for all three properties. Personally, I'd be encouraged by this, since it suggests he'll show up in some capacity!

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...



What I wonder is, can Cullen be a gentleman, but still suffer/experience from "angst" like DG suggested?

I don't see those two notions being mutually exclusive. I think suffering angst just means that he'll suffer over something in some dramatic way. I would suggest that he's probably been a gentleman all  along and already suffered some angst. Heck, being a gentleman will probably cause him some angst. LOL

from dictionary.com: angst: a feeling of dread, anxiety, or anguish.

[LolaLei]

 I love how he was giving us a hint here:

"As a matter of fact the Templars were once all part of a group called the Inquisition. There was an Inquisition in Thedas. It existed around the time that the Chantry started to come to be. This was a time after the First Blight, after Andraste's March, when there was chaos everywhere, the Imperium had broken apart, you had the Old God cults, so a lot of blood magic. There was a lot of chaos, you had the cults of Andraste...and the Inquisition sort of arose as a group of people who said "Enough is enough, somebody has to do something about this magic that is tearing apart the world." And when the Chantry came to be they went to the Inquisition and said "Hey, we're of the same mind on this, why don't we pull together" and that's when the Inquisition turned into the Seekers and the Templar Order. They kind of merged. It'd be interesting to see if the Inquisition ever rose up again."

It makes me wonder if the Inquisition in DA3 will be the rebelled Templars. Although personally, I want that survey leak to be true, if only for Cullen to be a companion lol.

Modifié par LolaLei, 12 novembre 2012 - 09:10 .