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[meanieweenie]

What if the running theme is "love 'em and leave 'em" with these games? Alistair dumps you if you aren't human and make him king, etc and Fenris has his freak out and ditches you until the end. If Bodahn and Sandal are R2 and 3PO then what if DG gives us all Empire, leaves us with a missing limb and LI and no Jedi happy Ewok dance. (Although, to be fair, Empire was the best thus far.) I'm just about convinced that if Cullen makes it in as a LI then he'll either leave us or die. Meep!

I've known a few angsty gentlemen. It can be done without making them a panty waste.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

 I love how he was giving us a hint here:

"As a matter of fact the Templars were once all part of a group called the Inquisition. There was an Inquisition in Thedas. It existed around the time that the Chantry started to come to be. This was a time after the First Blight, after Andraste's March, when there was chaos everywhere, the Imperium had broken apart, you had the Old God cults, so a lot of blood magic. There was a lot of chaos, you had the cults of Andraste...and the Inquisition sort of arose as a group of people who said "Enough is enough, somebody has to do something about this magic that is tearing apart the world." And when the Chantry came to be they went to the Inquisition and said "Hey, we're of the same mind on this, why don't we pull together" and that's when the Inquisition turned into the Seekers and the Templar Order. They kind of merged. It'd be interesting to see if the Inquisition ever rose up again."

It makes me wonder if the Inquisition in DA3 will be the rebelled Templars. Although personally, I want that survey leak to be true, if only for Cullen to be a companion lol.

LOL Yeah, could he have been any more on the nose? This is part of the reason why I've always figured the new Inquisition is a continuation of the old, i.e. the newly split Templar Order.  But then, his comment also could be a red herring. Can't wait til we find out more.

[R2s Muse]

meanieweenie wrote...

What if the running theme is "love 'em and leave 'em" with these games? Alistair dumps you if you aren't human and make him king, etc and Fenris has his freak out and ditches you until the end. If Bodahn and Sandal are R2 and 3PO then what if DG gives us all Empire, leaves us with a missing limb and LI and no Jedi happy Ewok dance. (Although, to be fair, Empire was the best thus far.) I'm just about convinced that if Cullen makes it in as a LI then he'll either leave us or die. Meep!

I've known a few angsty gentlemen. It can be done without making them a panty waste.

Egad. That would be sad. What would the Thedosian equivalent of carbonite be?? LOL

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

 I love how he was giving us a hint here:

"As a matter of fact the Templars were once all part of a group called the Inquisition. There was an Inquisition in Thedas. It existed around the time that the Chantry started to come to be. This was a time after the First Blight, after Andraste's March, when there was chaos everywhere, the Imperium had broken apart, you had the Old God cults, so a lot of blood magic. There was a lot of chaos, you had the cults of Andraste...and the Inquisition sort of arose as a group of people who said "Enough is enough, somebody has to do something about this magic that is tearing apart the world." And when the Chantry came to be they went to the Inquisition and said "Hey, we're of the same mind on this, why don't we pull together" and that's when the Inquisition turned into the Seekers and the Templar Order. They kind of merged. It'd be interesting to see if the Inquisition ever rose up again."

It makes me wonder if the Inquisition in DA3 will be the rebelled Templars. Although personally, I want that survey leak to be true, if only for Cullen to be a companion lol.

LOL Yeah, could he have been any more on the nose? This is part of the reason why I've always figured the new Inquisition is a continuation of the old, i.e. the newly split Templar Order.  But then, his comment also could be a red herring. Can't wait til we find out more.

I mean, what if the Inquisition rises again due to this "magical blast/scary otherworldly thing pulling the strings behind the scenes", that's a good reason for them to reform, since it's still magic... just not the kind being produced by a mage lol.

[Shades_Of_Pale]

R2s Muse wrote...

How about some nekkid Cullen? New sketch by yumikoyuki.

Linked instead of posted, just in case...

http://yumikoyuki.de...ullen-337090544

Oh I saw this one. Very lovely.

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

What if the running theme is "love 'em and leave 'em" with these games? Alistair dumps you if you aren't human and make him king, etc and Fenris has his freak out and ditches you until the end. If Bodahn and Sandal are R2 and 3PO then what if DG gives us all Empire, leaves us with a missing limb and LI and no Jedi happy Ewok dance. (Although, to be fair, Empire was the best thus far.) I'm just about convinced that if Cullen makes it in as a LI then he'll either leave us or die. Meep!

I've known a few angsty gentlemen. It can be done without making them a panty waste.

Egad. That would be sad. What would the Thedosian equivalent of carbonite be?? LOL

Red lyrium!

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

What if the running theme is "love 'em and leave 'em" with these games? Alistair dumps you if you aren't human and make him king, etc and Fenris has his freak out and ditches you until the end. If Bodahn and Sandal are R2 and 3PO then what if DG gives us all Empire, leaves us with a missing limb and LI and no Jedi happy Ewok dance. (Although, to be fair, Empire was the best thus far.) I'm just about convinced that if Cullen makes it in as a LI then he'll either leave us or die. Meep!

I've known a few angsty gentlemen. It can be done without making them a panty waste.

Egad. That would be sad. What would the Thedosian equivalent of carbonite be?? LOL

Red lyrium!

LMVAO --right on!!

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

 I love how he was giving us a hint here:

"As a matter of fact the Templars were once all part of a group called the Inquisition. There was an Inquisition in Thedas. It existed around the time that the Chantry started to come to be. This was a time after the First Blight, after Andraste's March, when there was chaos everywhere, the Imperium had broken apart, you had the Old God cults, so a lot of blood magic. There was a lot of chaos, you had the cults of Andraste...and the Inquisition sort of arose as a group of people who said "Enough is enough, somebody has to do something about this magic that is tearing apart the world." And when the Chantry came to be they went to the Inquisition and said "Hey, we're of the same mind on this, why don't we pull together" and that's when the Inquisition turned into the Seekers and the Templar Order. They kind of merged. It'd be interesting to see if the Inquisition ever rose up again."

It makes me wonder if the Inquisition in DA3 will be the rebelled Templars. Although personally, I want that survey leak to be true, if only for Cullen to be a companion lol.

LOL Yeah, could he have been any more on the nose? This is part of the reason why I've always figured the new Inquisition is a continuation of the old, i.e. the newly split Templar Order.  But then, his comment also could be a red herring. Can't wait til we find out more.

I mean, what if the Inquisition rises again due to this "magical blast/scary otherworldly thing pulling the strings behind the scenes", that's a good reason for them to reform, since it's still magic... just not the kind being produced by a mage lol.

Ah, I see what you mean. I think that could be a very good reason for the Inquisition to rise again. "Mages" blow up the Grand Cathedral and most of the Chantry leadership, including the Divine, then the average folk is going to be PISSED. They don't know anything about the internal politics and Divine vs. Lambert squabbling. All they know is mages who blow up the Divine = bad. The original Inquisition was just a bunch of people who said "enough is enough." I could also see the new Inquisition being average folks rising up because of the same thing. Then you have your additional faction for an interestingly non-polar conflict with more than two (more than three?)  sides.

OH MAN just thought of something. What would Lambert/his replacement and new Templar Order do if Divine Justinia were suddenly out of thepicture??  Perhaps there would no longer be reason to be separate?? With Justinia gone, then would the rest of the Chantry jump on the "mages are bad" band wagon?? Could that push the templars back into the Chantry's bosom, with the old "enemy of my enemy" reasoning: "Ah, we must all band together in these difficult times, yada yada"  ? Takes some of the interesting, potential grey-ness of the Chantry out of the equation.

[PorcelynDoll]

R2s Muse wrote...

PorcelynDoll wrote...

Is anyone willing to make me a precious Cullen banner? I want it to say "Give me Cullen or Give me Death" and Cullen has hater shades on.

That would be an awesome banner! I could take a crack, unless someone more talented, like littlenikki was up for it.

When you say hater shades, do you mean sorta like in this gif??

lol yes but not smoking.  I'm the only thing who gets to defile Cullens body! *slinks away embarressed* lol

[Danny Boy 7]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

 I love how he was giving us a hint here:

"As a matter of fact the Templars were once all part of a group called the Inquisition. There was an Inquisition in Thedas. It existed around the time that the Chantry started to come to be. This was a time after the First Blight, after Andraste's March, when there was chaos everywhere, the Imperium had broken apart, you had the Old God cults, so a lot of blood magic. There was a lot of chaos, you had the cults of Andraste...and the Inquisition sort of arose as a group of people who said "Enough is enough, somebody has to do something about this magic that is tearing apart the world." And when the Chantry came to be they went to the Inquisition and said "Hey, we're of the same mind on this, why don't we pull together" and that's when the Inquisition turned into the Seekers and the Templar Order. They kind of merged. It'd be interesting to see if the Inquisition ever rose up again."

It makes me wonder if the Inquisition in DA3 will be the rebelled Templars. Although personally, I want that survey leak to be true, if only for Cullen to be a companion lol.

LOL Yeah, could he have been any more on the nose? This is part of the reason why I've always figured the new Inquisition is a continuation of the old, i.e. the newly split Templar Order.  But then, his comment also could be a red herring. Can't wait til we find out more.

I mean, what if the Inquisition rises again due to this "magical blast/scary otherworldly thing pulling the strings behind the scenes", that's a good reason for them to reform, since it's still magic... just not the kind being produced by a mage lol.

Ah, I see what you mean. I think that could be a very good reason for the Inquisition to rise again. "Mages" blow up the Grand Cathedral and most of the Chantry leadership, including the Divine, then the average folk is going to be PISSED. They don't know anything about the internal politics and Divine vs. Lambert squabbling. All they know is mages who blow up the Divine = bad. The original Inquisition was just a bunch of people who said "enough is enough." I could also see the new Inquisition being average folks rising up because of the same thing. Then you have your additional faction for an interestingly non-polar conflict with more than two (more than three?)  sides.

OH MAN just thought of something. What would Lambert/his replacement and new Templar Order do if Divine Justinia were suddenly out of thepicture??  Perhaps there would no longer be reason to be separate?? With Justinia gone, then would the rest of the Chantry jump on the "mages are bad" band wagon?? Could that push the templars back into the Chantry's bosom, with the old "enemy of my enemy" reasoning: "Ah, we must all band together in these difficult times, yada yada"  ? Takes some of the interesting, potential grey-ness of the Chantry out of the equation.

1st. Hurr hurr bosom^_^

2nd. I tend to think that Gaider was saying that the Inquisition was for all intents and purposes good (as good as a Dragon Age group can be) and that in this time of strife would the Inquisition rise once again to save the people of Thedas as it had years before. You might have said that and it just flew over my head though lol. Point being that someone says that the world needs someone who isn't tied down by the Chantry, Templars, Mages or whatever and for whatever reason we become that person.

3rd. If Justinia died I imagine that the Chantry would splinter even further as I imagine Lambert/replacement would try to purge the Chantry of those who "weakened" it like Justinia did, meaning he could possibly be hunting her former servants even if they weren't exactly keen on the whole Chantry thing. There might be a third Chantry or Lambert's Chantry that takes a no mercy given to mages or heretics. If Bioware did merge Lambert's faction with the Chantry I'd be a bit dissapointed because the as R2 said grey-ness of the Chantry basically goes up in smoke making it another "Last Straw" where the story unless particularly explained why Lambert isn't evil anymore is one sided as to what is good or bad morally. I mean Meredith is obviously crazy and most of the quests involving templars made them look bad so when it came to choosing between them it heavily leaned towards Mages and unless you sided with the Templars you never knew why Meredith did what she did.

[LolaLei]

PorcelynDoll wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

PorcelynDoll wrote...

Is anyone willing to make me a precious Cullen banner? I want it to say "Give me Cullen or Give me Death" and Cullen has hater shades on.

That would be an awesome banner! I could take a crack, unless someone more talented, like littlenikki was up for it.

When you say hater shades, do you mean sorta like in this gif??

lol yes but not smoking.  I'm the only thing who gets to defile Cullens body! *slinks away embarressed* lol

LOL you, me, the rest of this thread and half of Tumblr I dare say!

[littlenikki]

PorcelynDoll wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

PorcelynDoll wrote...

Is anyone willing to make me a precious Cullen banner? I want it to say "Give me Cullen or Give me Death" and Cullen has hater shades on.

That would be an awesome banner! I could take a crack, unless someone more talented, like littlenikki was up for it.

lol yes but not smoking.  I'm the only thing who gets to defile Cullens body! *slinks away embarressed* lol

D'awww, R2 you're so sweet. I guess I can try dusting off the Photoshop to whip something up. Yeesh, I still haven't even finished that Templar-ized photo of everyone. I still have it, just been too busy tryin to learn Maya to focus on it. Good project for my week off of work though!

[LolaLei]

R2: I was thinking more along the lines that the Inquisition reform to investigate this new threat that is obviously magic based, but too strong to have been created/caused by mages. So although the normal/uneducated folk would think that it was the mages doing (collectively putting their magic together to... Blow **** up and allow demons to tear through the veil), the Inquisition and powers that be (the Divine etc) would know that the power/chaos unleashed goes beyond anything "of this world", which is why the reform to put a stop to it all. If that makes sense?

[LolaLei]

That's if the leaked survey has any truth in it beyond the title, of course.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2: I was thinking more along the lines that the Inquisition reform to investigate this new threat that is obviously magic based, but too strong to have been created/caused by mages. So although the normal/uneducated folk would think that it was the mages doing (collectively putting their magic together to... Blow **** up and allow demons to tear through the veil), the Inquisition and powers that be (the Divine etc) would know that the power/chaos unleashed goes beyond anything "of this world", which is why the reform to put a stop to it all. If that makes sense?

Ah, I think I see. So instead of an Inquisition that's for, of and by the people, as I think Danny  and I were postulating (Danny's good guys saving the world, or my corrupt Witch Hunt inquisitioning the innocent), it would be a group that is aligned with the Powers That Be and much more in the know... And, what they know is that it wasn't just "mages are bad" that did the blowing up, but instead something bigger. So, the Inquisition is like Mulder and Scully (or Men In Black! LOL)  looking into the "strange" occurrence of the explosion. That could also be cool!

[R2s Muse]

littlenikki wrote...

PorcelynDoll wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

PorcelynDoll wrote...

Is anyone willing to make me a precious Cullen banner? I want it to say "Give me Cullen or Give me Death" and Cullen has hater shades on.

That would be an awesome banner! I could take a crack, unless someone more talented, like littlenikki was up for it.

lol yes but not smoking.  I'm the only thing who gets to defile Cullens body! *slinks away embarressed* lol

D'awww, R2 you're so sweet. I guess I can try dusting off the Photoshop to whip something up. Yeesh, I still haven't even finished that Templar-ized photo of everyone. I still have it, just been too busy tryin to learn Maya to focus on it. Good project for my week off of work though!

yay, you go girl! Adding in hater shades would be something right at the limit of my meager skills. Luckily for me... a banner is so small, my errors are hard to see!

[R2s Muse]

[quote]Danny Boy 7 wrote...
1st. Hurr hurr bosom^_^
[/quote]Oh, you! 

[quote]2nd. I tend to think that Gaider was saying that the Inquisition was for all intents and purposes good (as good as a Dragon Age group can be) and that in this time of strife would the Inquisition rise once again to save the people of Thedas as it had years before. You might have said that and it just flew over my head though lol. Point being that someone says that the world needs someone who isn't tied down by the Chantry, Templars, Mages or whatever and for whatever reason we become that person.[/quote]This is basically what I was saying... altho, I think in his remarks DG seems to be white washing the Inquisition a bit. The codex entry on Seekers of Truth calls theirs a "reign of terror." But I see that as being part and parcel of it being a militia with no checks and balances, and so it ultimately, inevitably turns into a Witch Hunt.

[quote]3rd. If Justinia died I imagine that the Chantry would splinter even further as I imagine Lambert/replacement would try to purge the Chantry of those who "weakened" it like Justinia did, meaning he could possibly be hunting her former servants even if they weren't exactly keen on the whole Chantry thing. There might be a third Chantry or Lambert's Chantry that takes a no mercy given to mages or heretics. If Bioware did merge Lambert's faction with the Chantry I'd be a bit dissapointed because the as R2 said grey-ness of the Chantry basically goes up in smoke making it another "Last Straw" where the story unless particularly explained why Lambert isn't evil anymore is one sided as to what is good or bad morally. I mean Meredith is obviously crazy and most of the quests involving templars made them look bad so when it came to choosing between them it heavily leaned towards Mages and unless you sided with the Templars you never knew why Meredith did what she did.[/quote] Splintering would be interesting. I guess we have no idea how many Chantry folk are of Justinia's mind. I'd just never really thought about the notion that killing the Divine could be a massive "Do Over" as far as some of the Asunder happenings... which has advantages for storytelling in DA3.

[/quote]

Modifié par R2s Muse, 13 novembre 2012 - 12:24 .

[Shades_Of_Pale]

Everytime you guys said 'hater shades' I thought you were talking about me, lol. I was confused.
I like the theory of the Inquisition being like Mulder and Scully, or Men in Black.

[littlenikki]

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

Everytime you guys said 'hater shades' I thought you were talking about me, lol. I was confused.
I like the theory of the Inquisition being like Mulder and Scully, or Men in Black.

Pfft, that Shades, she's such a hater. Gettin along with everyone and all...the nerve!

[LolaLei]

R2: Kinda, I mean, hopefully it wouldn't be aliens LOL. But basically the Inquisition would have to reform to deal with this situation A) because the rebelled Templars are no longer of any use since they're busy hunting and blaming mages for everything, because the Seekers have also rebelled with the Templars and C) because the situation is magically inclined and it was originally the Templars job to look into all situations relating to magic/demons/otherworldly/occult situations.

Of course come DA3 there won't be an army on the Divines side to investigate the problem and she can't use regular city guards because they're not strong enough, nor is it a job that the Grey Warden's can commit to, since they're still dealing with the Darkspawn/talking Darkspawn thing. Sooo, what can she do? Recruit anyone who is still on her side (the few "good" Templars and Seekers that remained loyal to her, skilled fighters, influential people, our protagonist etc) into a new fraction and give them the title of "Inquisition" because it seems apt. And what better way to rewrite history than to give something that was previously considered "bad", "extreme" or "evil" a complete makeover and turn it into a force for good.

That's my theory anyway.

Modifié par LolaLei, 13 novembre 2012 - 12:34 .

[R2s Muse]

Ah, Lola, love that idea. Hadn't really thought that the Inquisition could essentially be the Chantry creating their own army from scratch as a big F.U. to the Seekers and Templars. LOL that would be outstanding. And calling it the Inquisition and co-opting the Seekers and Templars original name would be an even bigger F.U.

LOL Gotta say, I like it!

And, yeah, you know... that hater Shades! LMVAO Pfft... I didn't know what hater shades were either, which is why I had to ask!!

Modifié par R2s Muse, 13 novembre 2012 - 12:49 .

[Danny Boy 7]

R2: I guess the real question then is how long was the Inquisition around before it was absorbed into the Chantry. I imagine the original Inquisition was very much the "good" guys but as they proceeded to hunt out mages, cultists etc they turned into the Inquisition that needed to be put down/controlled by the Chantry so that it didn't keep hunting EVERYONE. I forget the exact saying but it's something like hope that you don't live long enough to see the thing you love become evil as I imagine most of the organizations in Thedas do. I mean I'm sure centuries ago even Tevinter wasn't evil and instead simply was the first real human settlement in Thedas.

Lola: I agree I think that the new Inquisition will simply be the people left that the Divine can call upon and reasonably rely on to get the job done. I'm sure she'll have other agents working throughout the story so that she'll be able to say "Since you continually have proved yourself I trust you'll be able to handle x mission of dire importance."

[R2s Muse]

For fun, greywardens has an article on DA's remaining mysteries for DA3. Don't think I agree that Flemeth should be "explained" ... and I thought DG told us at some point Sandal wasn't a mage (does any one else remember this??). But an interesting read, nonetheless.

http://dragon-age3.c...gest-mysteries/

[LolaLei]

R2, Danny: The only real flaw with my theory is that it's formed by the Chantry, and DG already said we wouldn't be forced into aligning with them.

... Unless it's formed by the Divine, she gets killed and the Inquisition carries on by itself to become aligned with whoever we want. Or it's created by not just the Divine, but important people from several different fractions all joined together to make the decision. Or maybe a group of nobodies just say "balls to it, let's form a group and do things right!" (Be it the Inquisition or not).

[LolaLei]

I think Sandal is just one of a kind really. Wasn't there a rumour that one of the nobility lost a son in the Deep Roads who was rumoured to be half Elf? If that's Sandal then there's our answer lol.